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Post by Manimal » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:38 pm

Post in here all the things that needs to be changed.

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Post by Manimal » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:40 pm

I noticed the first mistake myself :oops:

The Columbus Blue Jackets doesn't have an ECHL-affiliate. It should be the Chicago Express.
Meanwhile, Minnesota is no longer affiliated with Bakersfield.
Both will be changed in the future

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Post by Yakaitshi0 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:00 pm

Is it just me, or are the player's age not updated on this roster?
Its just a bit weird to see Colorado Avalanche's Gabriel Landeskog being on their roster at the age of 13 :razz:

Other than that, thanks for the roster, greatly appreciated

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Post by nino33 » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Yakaitshi0 wrote:are the player's age not updated on this roster?
Its just a bit weird to see Colorado Avalanche's Gabriel Landeskog being on their roster at the age of 13
The 2011-12 Manimal Rosters are set up to work with the CSD patch...so once you apply the patch, and you're starting in 2011 instead of 2006, Landeskog will be 18

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Post by zyllyx » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:53 pm

Any hope of a "dunce" version of the DB for us poor, sad Mac users with the ages date-shifted? :-D

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Post by Yakaitshi0 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:29 am

nino33 wrote:
Yakaitshi0 wrote:are the player's age not updated on this roster?
Its just a bit weird to see Colorado Avalanche's Gabriel Landeskog being on their roster at the age of 13
The 2011-12 Manimal Rosters are set up to work with the CSD patch...so once you apply the patch, and you're starting in 2011 instead of 2006, Landeskog will be 18

Ah thanks for that, I guess I was in too much of a hurry to play with the new roster to actually read the patch, thanks :oops:

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Post by hockeynoob » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:15 am

pk subban hardcored at 180 PA? maybe a -9 instead since he's still pretty young
and some others..
berglund
evander kane
ennis
couture
perron
sutter

since they're </=23 years old its difficult to assign a PA to them..
just IMO

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Post by subi » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:21 am

Niklas Hagman is still on the Flames' roster. He should be with the Ducks.

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Post by AdamOates » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:49 am

Here are a few new Future Transfers, if you'd like to add them to Extra Config before you start.

USHL:
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Nick" "Saracino" "Cedar Rapids RoughRiders" "Providence Friars" 1 8 2012 0 0 4
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Mathias" "Dahlström" "Chicago Steel" "Northern Michigan Wildcats" 1 8 2012 0 0 4
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Ed" "Wittchow" "Waterloo Black Hawks" "Wisconsin Badgers" 1 8 2012 0 0 4

NAHL:
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Cory" "Ward" "Aberdeen Wings" "Bemidji State Beavers" 1 8 2012 0 0 4

Also, I accidentally left a # at the beginning of Blake Roubos (Sioux Falls Stampede). Just delete that.

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Post by empach » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:51 am

Washington is due a 2nd rounder from the Avalanche in either 2012 or 2013 from the Varlamov trade. Right now they have neither, I'd probably just give them the 2012 one.

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Post by archibalduk » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:34 am

zyllyx wrote:Any hope of a "dunce" version of the DB for us poor, sad Mac users with the ages date-shifted? :-D
I will sort this out. :thup:

I posted the following in the Announcement Thread but I think it would be useful to post it here too because I'm sure a couple of other users will have the same question:

archibalduk wrote:
zyllyx wrote:A quick question. I have EHM 2007 on the Mac. Consequently, I cannot use the CSD Patch. However, I'd still love to use this DB with the DOBs date-shifted since at the very least I'll have the proper affiliations, staff, and updated player ratings (FINALLY, an accurate Keith Yandle!). Is there a way for me to date-shift the DOBs, or can you wonderful folks produce a non-CSD version of the DB for those of us who only have Mac licenses and cannot transition to PC-based gameplay?

Sorry if I sound selfish, but I truly appreciate the immense amount of work put into this DB and I think the best way (outside of money) to thank those who worked on it is to play it and enjoy it. :)
I think that's a very fair point. Manimal emailed to me a non-date shifted copy which I can upload this evening. I will just need to change back the DOBs and check the extra_config.cfg file.

I will write a script which will convert a "CSD database" for use with the hardcoded 2006 start date so that everybody can continue to enjoy the rosters (even with all of the new player career histories etc).

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Post by Manimal » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:40 pm

hockeynoob wrote:pk subban hardcored at 180 PA? maybe a -9 instead since he's still pretty young
and some others..
berglund
evander kane
ennis
couture
perron
sutter

since they're </=23 years old its difficult to assign a PA to them..
just IMO
I agree. I probably forgot to tell my researcher.

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Post by Manimal » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:44 pm

empach wrote:Washington is due a 2nd rounder from the Avalanche in either 2012 or 2013 from the Varlamov trade. Right now they have neither, I'd probably just give them the 2012 one.
I don't have any conditional picks in the list. Since we now these conditions, I probably should have this trade

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Post by zyllyx » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:16 pm

archibalduk wrote:I think that's a very fair point. Manimal emailed to me a non-date shifted copy which I can upload this evening. I will just need to change back the DOBs and check the extra_config.cfg file.

I will write a script which will convert a "CSD database" for use with the hardcoded 2006 start date so that everybody can continue to enjoy the rosters (even with all of the new player career histories etc).
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That, sir, is why you and Manimal are STEELY-EYED MISSILEMEN! :notworthy:

The only other thing I'd remind you to add to the conversion script would be a function to knock the corresponding number of years off of player contracts - much as I love, say, Derek Morris, I would rather not have him tied up for eight years... ;)

Again, huge thank you for this!

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Post by Manimal » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:20 pm

zyllyx wrote: The only other thing I'd remind you to add to the conversion script would be a function to knock the corresponding number of years off of player contracts - much as I love, say, Derek Morris, I would rather not have him tied up for eight years... ;)
That will come with the contract aging. The version he'll have ready for you later on will not have that. So, you will have Morris with three years remaining on his contract

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Post by Reave » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:51 pm

Some things for Färjestad, really minor stuff, but those counts aswell ;)

* You can remove Bofors, but keep Örebro on affiliations.
* Nihlstorp spell his first name Cristopher.
* Mattias Sjögren has #11, Hannes Hyvönen #23 and Stefan Meyer #14.
* Linus Fröberg is contracted to 2012.
* (I don't know if this one makes any difference), but on affiliations FBK J18 is "secondary farm" instead of "secondary junior" and J20 is "Dependant" instead of "Independant", comparing to the other Elitserien teams.
* Jörgen Jönssons number 21 is not a retired number in-game, even though it's in the extra_config file. It's wierd the other numbers work but not this one, it was the same problem in the 3.x databases. I had to set a date for it to be retired.

J20:
* Short name: Färjestad J20
* Max Görtz is contracted to the J20 team.
* FBK J20 should have colours like FBK J18 and FBK.
* Conrad Vikström from FBK J20 to Timrå J20.
* Kafle spell first name Oscar. (no biggie I know, just so picture work)

edit* I just saw affiliations can't be removed, only replaced by a new team.

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Post by archibalduk » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:52 pm

zyllyx wrote:That, sir, is why you and Manimal are STEELY-EYED MISSILEMEN! :notworthy:

The only other thing I'd remind you to add to the conversion script would be a function to knock the corresponding number of years off of player contracts - much as I love, say, Derek Morris, I would rather not have him tied up for eight years... ;)

Again, huge thank you for this!
Ha! I like being called a steely-eyed missileman!! What a great phrase! :D

The script I'll write (I'll probably start it this weekend - it'll only take a few days to finish) will, amongst other things, correct:
  • Years of birth (both in the DOB and year of birth fields)
  • Draft years (i.e. it will move the 2011 draftees to 2006, 2010 to 2005, etc)
  • Contract expiries
  • Competition and career histories (e.g. so the 2010/11 histories will appear in game as 2005/06) - so you can benefit from the history research project just like those with the CSD patch
There will probably be other bits it will change too (I need to sit down and take a good look). The aim will be to make the rosters exactly the same as the 2011 CSD rosters but just adjusted for the 2006 start date. So with the exception of the different years, the rosters will be exactly the same.

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Post by djskek » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:57 pm

Hey Mani,

do you have edit my updates by the other thread?Or do I write the updates here again? :-?

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Post by ismael8 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:37 pm

Miss Felix Plouffe in Armada LHJMQ

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Post by Manimal » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:05 pm

djskek wrote:Hey Mani,

do you have edit my updates by the other thread?Or do I write the updates here again? :-?
I have added everything you wrote there. You can either write the new changes here or keep a spreadsheet that you'll send to me when it is time for a new update
ismael8 wrote:Miss Felix Plouffe in Armada LHJMQ
Yes, there are a few guys missing in the Q. They will be added in the future.
The OHL is better off, but the WHL has not been worked on due to a computer crash of my researcher. It will be added later on
Reave wrote:Some things for Färjestad, really minor stuff, but those counts aswell ;)

* You can remove Bofors, but keep Örebro on affiliations.
* Nihlstorp spell his first name Cristopher.
* Mattias Sjögren has #11, Hannes Hyvönen #23 and Stefan Meyer #14.
* Linus Fröberg is contracted to 2012.
* (I don't know if this one makes any difference), but on affiliations FBK J18 is "secondary farm" instead of "secondary junior" and J20 is "Dependant" instead of "Independant", comparing to the other Elitserien teams.
* Jörgen Jönssons number 21 is not a retired number in-game, even though it's in the extra_config file. It's wierd the other numbers work but not this one, it was the same problem in the 3.x databases. I had to set a date for it to be retired.

J20:
* Short name: Färjestad J20
* Max Görtz is contracted to the J20 team.
* FBK J20 should have colours like FBK J18 and FBK.
* Conrad Vikström from FBK J20 to Timrå J20.
* Kafle spell first name Oscar. (no biggie I know, just so picture work)

edit* I just saw affiliations can't be removed, only replaced by a new team.
I'll add the changes.
Retired jersey numbers are causing problems. I had meant to go through the list to see who works and don't and set up dates for the non-working ones. What date did you use for Jönsson?

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Post by Reave » Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:30 pm

Manimal wrote:I'll add the changes.
Retired jersey numbers are causing problems. I had meant to go through the list to see who works and don't and set up dates for the non-working ones. What date did you use for Jönsson?
Thanks.
I used 14 08 2011.

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Post by y2jericho » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:53 pm

In the extra config file, Tim Connolly of the Leafs is listed with a permanent injury, when he is healthy and playing this season for the Leafs, and the same for Anthony Stewart of the Hurricanes.

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Post by Manimal » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:13 am

y2jericho wrote:In the extra config file, Tim Connolly of the Leafs is listed with a permanent injury, when he is healthy and playing this season for the Leafs, and the same for Anthony Stewart of the Hurricanes.
No, those are Future permanent injuries. That means injuries that could happen and with Connolly we all know it will, eventually

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Post by Saapas » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:05 pm

Petri Matikainen Blues -> HIFK Head Coach
Lauri Marjamäki (Blues) Ass. Coach. -> Head Coach

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Post by The Worker » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:40 am

Just to let you know. I started a game with Brynäs in Elitserien and got some SEL record, most scored and conceded goals in a game: 4 and finally, penalty minutes: 14.

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