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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by Daelh » Wed May 29, 2013 9:59 pm

kabbott50 wrote:I have run into, what I assume, is a bit of an issue. Grigorenko's entry level contract is about to expire (he'll be an RFA anyway), but he's asking for $35,000,000 for one year. This has to be a mistake, right? What should I do here?
I had the same problem on my last save. With Ekblad, demanded 35mil a year to. Just let the contract run out and sign on 1st july as RFA, hes demands will be normal again by then.

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Post by Daelh » Wed May 29, 2013 10:01 pm

Nuno wrote:
Is that Seth Jones in your first defensive pair?? How is he doing?

By the way, i'm not doing the challenge but i'm following similar "rules". Is it still ok for me to post here?
Yes its Seth Jones.

Hes doing fairly well. He put up 30 points on 65 games and is with that the leadning pointscorer amongst my defensemen, he put up high 7 avarage rating to. Hes my only defensman with offensive upside.

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by Daelh » Thu May 30, 2013 9:30 am

Stupid game, no playoff season 3 either. Had problems with that i lost like 40 games with one goal. I had a 3 game stretch where i lost 9 with the odd goal. Clinched the 10th spot but was far off playoffs all season long. This is the team heading in to season 4.

Foligno - Ennis - Marchand
Vanek - Grigorenko - Stafford
Adam - Sutter - Kassian
Powe - Catenacci - Ott

Hjalmarsson - Jones
Sekera - Myers
McNabb - Pysyk

Miller(Hackett)

Its due or die this season, im pushing for a playoff spot and this team should be able to win a playoff round. Still lookin for that big number one Center though, but maybe Grigorenko can take that spot as we progreess.

Brandon Sutter <-> Cody Hogdson
Darroll Powe <-> 3rd pick 2016
Brad Marchand 5 000 000*3 years

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by kabbott50 » Thu May 30, 2013 11:48 am

Daelh wrote:
kabbott50 wrote:I have run into, what I assume, is a bit of an issue. Grigorenko's entry level contract is about to expire (he'll be an RFA anyway), but he's asking for $35,000,000 for one year. This has to be a mistake, right? What should I do here?
I had the same problem on my last save. With Ekblad, demanded 35mil a year to. Just let the contract run out and sign on 1st july as RFA, hes demands will be normal again by then.
Yeah, that's what I did. Worked out fine.

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by kabbott50 » Thu May 30, 2013 11:54 am

Daelh wrote:Stupid game, no playoff season 3 either. Had problems with that i lost like 40 games with one goal. I had a 3 game stretch where i lost 9 with the odd goal. Clinched the 10th spot but was far off playoffs all season long. This is the team heading in to season 4.

Foligno - Ennis - Marchand
Vanek - Grigorenko - Stafford
Adam - Sutter - Kassian
Powe - Catenacci - Ott

Hjalmarsson - Jones
Sekera - Myers
McNabb - Pysyk

Miller(Hackett)

Its due or die this season, im pushing for a playoff spot and this team should be able to win a playoff round. Still lookin for that big number one Center though, but maybe Grigorenko can take that spot as we progreess.

Brandon Sutter <-> Cody Hogdson
Darroll Powe <-> 3rd pick 2016
Brad Marchand 5 000 000*3 years
My third season, I finished fourth and lost in Game 7 of the Conference Final after missing the Playoffs the first two years. Not sure where it came from...I guess my guys just developed enough. Miller played great all year though, too.

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by Daelh » Thu May 30, 2013 1:43 pm

So after 20 games into season 4 im totally ripping up East and dominating, being 2nd in East with 5 less games than the team in front of me and after me. The only negative thing is that Ennis and Marchand sucked togheter even if Foligno is scoring goals in bunches(14). So i decided to scratch Ennis and move up Adam to first line C again. Its going better for my topline now but Marchand still having some problems with consistensy.

And how much i regret i signed Marchand when i saw P. Bergeron as UFA in early oktober and would be able to sign for 4mil. But what the heck, have to do something about Marchand soon. Also, ive already used 3 goalies for 3 games or more 20 games into the season. Miller got hurt in late October and I had to move up Fucale from Rochester, he didnt dissapoint and got 3wins in 3 games and a savepercentage of .914. Also Hackett is winning games, but not playing overly well.

However, im very happy with my scoring depth this season, with already 10 players with 10 points or more.

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by Daelh » Thu May 30, 2013 7:05 pm

Oh happy McDavid-ing day. Have been playing for 48 hours straight now, really awsome challenge team. And after 4 seasons on challenge number 28(havent participated in more than 5-6 of them) i finally tally my first McDavid-ing cup!!!! WOHO!!

Brandon Sutter <3333
Marcus Foligno <3333
Thomas Vanek <3333
Seth Jones <3333
Mikhail Grigorenko <3333
Drew Stafford <3<3<3<3

My six core franchise players, and all of them tallied a 100 points or more(61 for Jones) during the regular season! Stafford won Art Ross trophy and Foligno just finished second in the Rocket race with 57 goals. Brandon Sutter scored 40 goals and 118 points as a number 3 Center, what can i say?

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by bruins72 » Fri May 31, 2013 2:47 pm

kabbott50 wrote:I have run into, what I assume, is a bit of an issue. Grigorenko's entry level contract is about to expire (he'll be an RFA anyway), but he's asking for $35,000,000 for one year. This has to be a mistake, right? What should I do here?
Really? I've never seen this before. I would offer him a qualifying contract to keep his rights. Then just try to sign him again once his contract expires.

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Post by timmy_t » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:36 am

I just can't get into this challenge. I've made it to start of the first season but I'm playing so much other EHM that I can't find the time (or energy).
((I'm playing online in DMB and I've got three or four old challenge games that I play around with too.))

I had a little different philosophy with my forward lines than the norm that I wanted to share with everyone:

Vanek-Adam-Leino - The first line has both wingers with off-wing shots.
Foligno-Ott-Stafford - I have Ott training as a center on the second line.
Gerbe-Ennis-Kaleta - Kaleta keeps the other team from taking liberties on the little guys.
Ellis-Hecht-McCormick - This is the closest to a checking line that the Sabres can muster.

I plan on moving lines up or down depending on how they're playing.

My Defensive pairings are probably just like everyone elses so I won't post them.

I hired Kevin Constantine as my AGM and plan on eventually signing him to my HC.

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Post by bruins72 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:13 pm

So I'm almost 3/4 of the way through the second season and I'm doing very well. We're 1st in the East and 2nd overall in the league (1 point behind the Blackhawks). So I really don't have any room to complain. I'm still going to though. There are just some players on this team that I can't stand! I want to get rid of them so bad! The biggest waste of space is Kaleta. I can't get anything out of him. He should be a physical presence and a defensive specialist. He's been struggling to be that for us though. He started off as my 4th line RW after not performing well on the 2nd or 3rd line in the first season. He's been a healthy scratch a bunch of times this season. I've found that despite not having the attributes that would make him look like he's better, Cody McCormick has outplayed Kaleta. And then there's Cody Hodgson. He's missed 12 games this season to various injuries, but when he's been in the lineup, I just haven't seen him produce like I'd expect from my second line center. In 42 games he's only got 30 points and a 7.21 average rating. I even dropped Stafford down to his line for a bit, hoping to get him going with my top RW. No such luck. I've had Johan Larsson playing in his place during his latest injury and Larsson has performed well. I'm making it hard for me to put him back into the lineup. The other player that really frustrates me is Gerbe. He's got all of the talent and mental tools in the world but he's just so tiny! Ennis is small and talented but he seems to perform despite that. Gerbe is just so small that he's ineffective. 5'5" is a good size for kids hockey! He's spent most of the season on the 4th line because of this. That's not helping him any but I really can't justify moving him up.

Vanek is having a bit of a quiet year. He's averaging about a point per game but he's not anywhere near on pace for a 50 goal season like last year. Our scoring has been pretty spread out this season. I've been rolling 4 lines pretty equally for the first two periods and then switching to normal or overload in the third if needed. Oh and my rookies on defense have been working out. McNabb has been a stud. He's just so solid on D and physical. Pysyk has been doing a good job, just to a lesser degree than McNabb. He struggled at times earlier in the season but he's been better lately.

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by coombs14 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:20 am

I'm onto season three now and am finally turning things around. I'm in 9th place right now with 3 games in hand over 8th. Considering this is my first challenge I'm not that unhappy with the result. I figured the first two seasons would be total wastes. Things are starting to turn around and Grigorenko is looking like a legit number one centre. This being my third I've made three trades: Leino for L. Shenn, Ennis for Franz Neilson and Hecht for a 3rd round pick. Shenn and Neilson have worked out really well. Hecht had just become useless and was sitting most games. When it became clear the playoffs weren't in the cards in season two I dealt him.

I also agree with bruins72. Hodgson has so much talent but is so inconsistent. I was playing him in the first line centre role but would be on-fire for five games then go cold. Grigorenko is much more consistent and its only year two for him. Kaleta annoys me to no end and Gerbe is too small to be effective. I'm letting both of them walk at the end of this season. In regards to my D, McNabb has been good but I cannot get a good performance out of Pysyk. I've hung onto Pardy who plays a similar role and has been much more reliable.

My lines (excuse the terrible terrible spelling of players' names):

Vanek - Grigorenko - V. Nickushin (my draft pick from 2013)
Foligno - Franz Neilson - Stafford (Traded Ennis for Neilson, I needed a defensive centre who could also score some. Ennis was just too little)
Ott - Adam - T. Brouwer (Signed Brouwer in my first off-season and he has worked out great. Big, physical, and can chip in with offence!)
Larsson - Hodgson - Setuguchi (Setuguchi was my summer signing but he has not worked out well. Not quite physical and defensive enough to play a role like Brouwer but not a pure goal scorer to justify having him play on my first line. )

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Post by bruins72 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:53 pm

Ugh! So I get injuries leading up to and during the Olympic break. First, I had to deal with waiting around for the Olympics to be over so I could log my 60th game (what a pain). Then I loose Ryan Miller to a groin stain that he suffered in the second game of the Olympics playing against Germany. Then Leino went out with a Rotator Cuff injury toward the end of the Olympics in a game against Sweden. So the Olympics wrap up and Miller still isn't 100%. Also, I've got Enroth still on Sweden's roster, even though he wasn't the starter or the backup. So I had to call Hackett up from the AHL to play the one game and had Miller as the backup. Fortunately, that was just one game. My bigger problem is Leino being out. I had to put Kaleta into the lineup (only 4th line RW). To shuffle things up to accommodate the injury, I moved McCormick to 4th line C (where he seems to do very well), Adam up to 3rd line C, and Larsson up to 1st line C. I wanted to keep Hodgson with his linemates to maintain a little consistency. Larsson is trying to step up and fill that role that Leino usually fills. He's not quite there yet but he's trying. Hodgson and Ennis are really clicking though.

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Post by scorpions91 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:53 pm

Hello i am new to this kind of thing. But where can i find the rules for this challenge?

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Post by Manimal » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:19 pm

scorpions91 wrote:Hello i am new to this kind of thing. But where can i find the rules for this challenge?
http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/challenge.php
On the left side

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Post by coombs14 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:41 pm

That is interesting that Hodgson and Ennis click really well. I found that they got bullied when on the ice together and were not defensively responsible enough. (although maybe I'm to much like J. Tortorella for my own good?)

My trade of Ennis for F. Nielsen is working out great. Ennis has only been playing third line centre for Islanders and is averaging a 7.10 rating while Nielsen solidified my second line, plays on the penalty kill and powerplay and is scoring at a point per game pace.

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Post by bruins72 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:46 pm

Ennis and Hodgson did okay as my second line as long as I put a big guy on the RW. If I put somebody like Berbe there, I'd have been just asking for trouble!

I hadn't touched my game for about a week due to being busy with other things. I'm going to try to get through the season 2 playoffs soon!

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Post by bruins72 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:23 pm

So I was away from game for a while, due to being busy with other things. I'm finally back into it, wrapping up season 2 and hoping to get a 3rd season in. We won the Cup in season 2 but amazingly, our leading scorer didn't get the playoff MVP. My goal-scoring was a little more spread out, so didn't even have a guy in the running for the Richard. Ennis won the Byng. Bobby Carpenter won the Adams. We had some guys as runners-up for some of the other awards. Most importantly, we won the Cup. The draft wasn't anything to get excited about. As Cup winners, we picked last and this crop wasn't too full of talent. We ended up taking Reid Gardiner with our 1st round pick.

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Post by TimHorton » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:56 pm

Congrats Bruins =D>

I just finished S2Q1 and by season 2 this team should really be clicking and moving forward. For starters Miller is just too good and the game puts so much emphasis on goaltending he alone should help. For those that are still struggling after season 1, try different line combinations. I have Larsson on my second line center now in season two and he has the most points, however since he started the season as the 4th line center he's def moved up.

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Post by bruins72 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:14 pm

Thanks! And welcome to the challenge (and your first post)!

Larsson definitely performs better than you'd think based on his attributes. Luke Adam is the flip-side of that. You'd think he'd perform better based on his attributes. My board HATES Adam. They keep telling me that they don't think he should be on the team.

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Post by TimHorton » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:32 pm

Thx I got back into EHM during the NHL playoffs.

I just had something strange happen and am wondering if it happened to others. Vanek's skating was his obviously weakness, and I just had his balance go from 11 to 18 with a few months in season 2. I wasn't keeping a close eye on his progression until I just now noticed it, seems like a weird sudden jump. Perhaps the practice/training mechanic tries to balance them out since his offensive skills were already good?

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Post by bruins72 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:49 pm

Usually, bigger and slower guys have better balance, making them stronger on their skates. Maybe the game compensated. I'm not sure that I've noticed it before.

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Post by Asher413 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:39 pm

Whew, what a very rough first season:

Highlights:
Miller: As expected he was all that kept us even remotely competitive. 91.3%, 8.50 rating had me happy with the leaky at best group in front of him.
My top line of Ennis/Stafford/Vanek produced a decent amount of offense… and basically all my offense (last in scoring…)!

Lowlights:
February: From Jan. 27th to March 9th… we didn’t win a game. I was concerned about being fired in the first season of the challenge… truly embarrassing.
The PIMs: 5 players over 100 PIMs. When you have a terrible defense, terrible offense, the last thing you need to do is give your opponents so many chances against an average power play.

Transactions:
Players:
Lost Luke Adam to waviers.
Staff:
I lost out in the Bobby Carpenter sweepstakes it appears some of you won, so settled for Marty Howe (Coach), adding an AGM and two scouts.

Offseason goals:
1. Replace Rolston. That’s an obvious step for us all.
2. Draft an NHL-ready player. With the worst record, I have a great pick, but the scouts don’t believe any of the players are ready yet, so we’ll see.
3. When (IMO) this team needs at least two top 6 forwards, and 1 or 2 top 4 D-men, free agency simply can’t cover it. I’ll probably go with the Tier 1 signing or Waivers, as another depth guy or two from Tier 2 probably doesn’t help a lot. Trading my also help a small bit, but the assets aren’t great for 1-1 and hopefully a 2nd rounder can go far.

One down, hopefully at least two to go, but this has been one of the worst seasons I’ve ever had in EHM, it can only go up.

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Post by TimHorton » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:17 pm

Finished season 2, lost if first round of the playoffs :-x

Pros:
- Finished 2nd in the East
- We finished with the most goals in the league which is good, but I didn't have one player over 100 points
- Larsson playing on the second line lead the way in points
- We did not lose anyone in the starting line up in free agency this year (heading into season 3)
- Four players with 30goals, 7 over 20

Cons:
-Losing in first round obviously, they just hand my number despite changing things up each game losing 4-1
- Six players with over 100 PIM is not good, especially with Lenio being 2nd
- Leino sucked big time only getting 73 points

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Post by Asher413 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:42 pm

A classic case study in what happens when you lose a star goaltender for about 46 games...

Highlights:
Miller: 16-9-3 record, 4 shutouts, and basically could've carried this team to a playoff spot had his elbow not blown out.
Youth Development: Grigorensko was worth 14/31 as a rookie, Larsson made the jump to 35 points in only 65 games and Barkov came in with 23 points, helping fill the roles on the top two lines.

Lowlights:
Injuries: What could be bad luck, or bad player management... Lost Miller for 46 games, lost Leino for the season 10 games into the year, Erhoff for 12, and Ennis for 20 left a lot of holes on the top end of a team with great 4th line depth.
Any goalie not names Ryan: 23-27-4, with 89.1% saved. Enroth was servicable, but when he needed a day off, we only scored points in 2 of 6 games (both OTL).
Lack of power plays: We didn't have the skill to force penalties at the rate I would like.

Transactions:
Players: (notables)
Let Adam Pardy go ($4 million just wasn't worth it... and of course he signed for $1.3 in LA)
Traded Ott for Tom Gilbert (early)
Traded Hecht for a 2nd rounder (deadline)
Lost Foligno on waivers
Signed Matthew Lombardi (19-40-59) and Steve Eminger (52 games, 6.71 Avg Rating)

Draft Notables:
1.2: Alexander Barkov- played in Buffalo, 66 games, 23 points
1.7: Elias Lindholm- played mostly in Rochester (62 Gm, 50 P), with 7 games for Buffalo
2.31: Michael McCarron- stayed at Michigan State
2.57: Mathieu LeClerc- stayed at Moncton
3.61: Sergei Kuptsov- First line potential, stayed with the 67's


Staff:
Brought in three assistants, promoted Howe to head coach.

Offseason goals:
1. Top 6 winger through free agency
2. Solve my glut of 5th/6th defensemen (likely a trade, but with 1 for 1, I can't get much from these guys)
3. Own the 2nd round (4 picks!)

Well, I'm certain I'll finish one more season, then I'll have to see how much time is left to go for another. I have my head up knowing had Miller stayed healthy, we would've been a playoff team, but very disappointing to see so many injuries in spots I simply didn't have replacements for (Miller, and even Leino left a huge hole for 2nd line LW)

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Re: Challenge #28 - Buffalo Sabres - Discussion Thread

Post by eternium85 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:57 am

Decided to join the challenge about a month ago and now just finishing season 1. Could it be possible to extend the challenge for a month or so? I don't know if there's much demand for a new challenge at this time of summer 'cause people being on holidays and stuff.

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