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Post by bruins72 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:35 am

A 72 DB? Interesting! Even older than Nino's 74 DB. I'm still holding out hope for a mid to late 80's DB.

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Post by saberhagen83 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:48 am

bruins72 wrote:You got Drury for cheap! Langkow and a 6th for him? Jackpot I'd be lucky to get a 6th for Langkow.
Well I had Langkow on a decent contract ($1M/year) and he did have some amount of green attributes so he did look like a decent 3rd liner. But he certainly wasn't playing like one, so his stats were pretty bad. But I also think part of the reason that was enough for Drury was that he seemed to be unhappy. When I looked at his info screen it said his future was uncertain, but he wasn't on the block though. Guess something must have made him a bit unhappy there.

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Post by saberhagen83 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:57 pm

Big deal went down. Sent Darcy Tucker and Antti-Jussi Niemi to Montreal in exchange for Stephane Robidas and Martin Havlat.
Tucker wasn't gonna re-sign with us and Niemi isn't too great. I think it was a good deal, Robidas should be a major improvement on our slow defensive core and Havlat has been playing very good for Montreal this season. Another plus is that Havlat is signed through next season and looks like I'll be able to tie up Robidas contract as well. :-)

Closing in on the end of Q3 and we are hanging in there. But we are soooo inconsistent, can go on 3-4 game loosing streaks etc. On current pace we should end up around 92p...doubtfull that would be enough for a playoff spot.

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Post by nino33 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:50 pm

bruins72 wrote:A 72 DB? Interesting! Even older than Nino's 74 DB. I'm still holding out hope for a mid to late 80's DB.
I'm pretty sure you'll see one if/once we have the ability to have a 21 team NHL :-)

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Post by saberhagen83 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:18 pm

Made the playoffs finally in year 5! Of course we got both Robidas and Kubina injured heading into it but at least we managed to make it a bit of a series loosing 2-4 in the end. Richards was our best player this season. Last season Lecavalier and Renberg was the big point guys on the team, but it felt like it was more a shared effort between all of the top 6 guys this season. So I guess more of a team effort in the end. I'm hoping Kesler will be able to come in next season on the 2nd line. I'm liking the thought of this as my top 6 next year

Heatley - Richards - Renberg
Havlat - Lecavalier - Kesler

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Post by bruins72 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:21 pm

So I've finished the regular season for season 4. I missed the playoffs but I'm feeling much better about this team. We finished in 9th place, 7 points outside the playoffs. That's definitely progress! Once the season was over, I sent down every player I could in hopes that they'd have a good playoff run in the AHL. They made it through the first round but got knocked out in the second.

Bryzgalov had a really nice rookie season and provided some stability in net for us this year. He was 35-20-6 with a 2.76GAA and a .901SV%. Zetterberg split the season between the AHL and NHL. He dominated in the AHL and did okay in the NHL. I don't know if playing another season in the AHL will actually help him develop any more. He might need to move to the NHL. I know Franzen isn't ready to make the move. Ryan Malone doesn't look like he's developed when you look at his attributes but he's played well rotating between the top 2 lines. He got 51 points in 77 games and was a +13.

Kovalchuk has joined the team and played a little in the AHL playoffs. He had 5 points in 6 games. He'll probably be on our NHL roster to start next season.

I was signing prospects who's right were running out and ran into a snag. Jarrett Stoll is out for 4 months with a fractured skull. My scouts say he's a defensive forward with first line potential. Unfortunately, I'm going to lose his rights because when I try to sign him, my board vetos the deal because he failed his medical. That stinks! I've still got time on Patrick Sharp. I won't lose his rights, so I'm waiting until July 1st to sign him so I don't waste a contract year.

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Post by saberhagen83 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:06 pm

What a lovely draft it was. Ryan Suter fell right into my lap, from 9 to 17. :grin: Was gonna go for someone else in a winger position as I expected him to be gone by that time. Already more or less NHL ready and will certainly be another piece of the puzzle to fix our defensive core for the future.

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Post by bruins72 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:38 pm

So I'm in season 5. I can't remember the last time I played a challenge this many seasons. The sad thing is, I still haven't made the playoffs. I've logged my first 20 games of this season and we're sitting in 10th place. A couple things became evident right away this season. While Kovalchuk is insanely talented, he's just not ready for the NHL. I didn't want to have him playing 3rd or 4th line with defensive players because he's not going to succeed in that situation. He needs to be on one of the top two lines. The other thing I learned was that Bierk was NOT going to cut it as a backup. He's terrible. So I went searching. In November I finally found a talented young goalie that was under-valued. The Kings had Craig Anderson sitting on their farm team and didn't seem to think much of him. I ended up getting him for Bierk and my 3rd rounder in the next draft. In the 4 games he's played since joining the team he has 4 wins, a 2.01GAA and a .922SV%.

So Franzen was getting a lot of interest from other teams. He hadn't been that great for me when called up the NHL but was killing it in the AHL. I've got a log-jam of talent on the LW. I decided to deal him while interest was high. One of the offers I got was from the Canucks. They were offering Ron Hainsey and their 2nd round pick in the 2003 draft. My scouts say Hainsey has 1-2 potential. The Canucks are sitting in 10th place in the West. So I'm figuring that pick is going to be a mid-2nd rounder. My board and fans loved it and celebrated it as a steal.

Oh I also ended up signing Langkow before we went to arbitration. He signed for $1M. That's less than what he was making last season. I offered him around the league and the Wild offered a 3rd round pick. They're sitting in 14th place in the West, so that's almost like a 2nd rounder in my opinion. The board and fans didn't like it though. I don't understand them sometimes. Earlier the board had said that they didn't think Langkow should be a member of our team. Whatever!

So the 2003 draft looks like it will be the deepest one we've seen yet! There's so many guys in this draft that are top NHLers today. I can see solid players to pick into the 3rd round. I can't wait for this one.

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Post by saberhagen83 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:03 pm

I think, or hope, that we have finally arrived. After 10 games in the 2003/04 season we are 7-2-1. Still trying to find the right balance on defense, but it's looking a bit better the last few games. I signed Suter after the draft and he has done very well playing with Robidas on the 1st pairing. Still trying to get the best out of Keith but he does tend to be on the ice on a lot of goals against. Looking better last few games though after shuffling the defense a little.

Peverly was also signed this off-season and has a stellar pre-season. I simply had to give him a spot on the team and he is a very good faceoff taker so Lecavalier had to move out left. Peverley has been excellent on the 2nd line so far with 11p in 10 GP. Needless to say, if he keeps this up he has a permanent spot on the team. His pre-season forced me to keep Bourque in the AHL, he simply has no room in the top6 right now. Another rookie that has been impressing me is defenseman Andrew Hutchinson, drafted in the 3rd round 1999. At the moment Kubina and Sykora are the loosers...will have to think about what to do with them moving forward.

Heatley - Richards - Renberg
Lecavalier - Peverley - Havlat
Zamuner - Halpern - Daigle
Selivanov - Pahlsson - Drury

Suter - Robidas
Mara - Strudwick
Hutchinson - Keith

Fernandez/Vokoun

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Re: Challenge 42 - 98 TB Lightning - Discussion Thread

Post by kennec » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:11 am

Hello! i been on vacation, 4 weeks sailing divining and breaching in dalmatian archipelago.
I will join this challenge, exactly what i been looking for. I started playing manager fantasy leagues in NHL exactly 1998 so am pumped for this challenge, so fun trading for same players as 20 years ago!

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Post by kennec » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:04 pm

is it allowed to trade for players who is 25? ,
in rules it stands:
not allowed trade for players over 25, i read that 26 and above is not allowed and 25 is allowed,

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Post by bruins72 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:55 pm

That's correct! :thup:

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Post by bruins72 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:44 pm

So it took me until my 5th season but we finally made it to the playoffs! We were able to beat the Senators in the first round but went 7 games with the Devils in the next round and came up short. The Stanley Cup Finals was between the Florida Panthers (who have been really good since signing UFA Peter Forsberg to a 5 year deal heading into the 99-00 season) and the San Jose Sharks (who have been quite successful since signing Mike Modano as a UFA. The Sharks ended up winning the Cup for the second year in a row.

This was a bit of a transition year for our team. This was our first season without any of the goalies we started the challenge with. Puppa and Bierk were gone. I had Bryzgalov, who I drafted, and traded for Craig Anderson to help split the workload. Bryzgalov still had the majority of the starts but have to handle as many as he did in his first season when Puppa was really declining. This was also the year that we moved on from Langkow. He just wasn't developing and was overpaid. We brought in Zetterberg this season for his first full season in the NHL. He split the season between the AHL and NHL last year. This season he actually led the team in goals (29) and was a runner-up for the Selke. I've been able to use him on both the PP and the PK. Kovalchuk, Sharp, and Bieksa all spent the majority of the season in the AHL with brief stints with the big club.

In this year's draft (which had a lot of familiar names) we picked 18th. In previous years, we picked much higher (last year we picked 12th after just missing the playoffs). I was fairly confident that we would get a good play in the first round of this draft because it was loaded. This draft ended up being a bit wild. The Blue Jackets picked the consensus #1 ranked player, Corey Perry with the 1st overall pick as expected. After that there was some jumping. Corey Crawford who was ranked 6th went 2nd. #2 ranked Shea Weber didn't go until 7th. The Penguins took #21 ranked Nathan Horton with the 14th pick. Once it came around to our turn at #18 it was a no-brainer who we were going to pick. Ryan Suter was ranked 9th but fell into our laps at 18! He looks like he'll be a stud. He could probably play in the NHL this year but we're going to let him go play college hockey this season. We had 2 second round picks and we were able to land Jaroslav Halak and Mike Richards. Halak doesn't look like he'll be as good as his real life counterpart but I'm going to take a chance on him. The rest of the draft I was mostly able to land a bunch of unfamiliar players.

The board expects us to make the playoffs this season. I think we should be able to do it again. This season I may decide to move Malone. He's played well for us with 51 points in each of the last two seasons but we've got a bit of a log jam at LW. If I want to bring up Kovalchuk (and maybe Sharp), I'll have to make room. :-k

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Post by saberhagen83 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:38 pm

Haven't been playing too much lately as I've had plenty of work to keep me busy. But I've had a little bit of playtime again and have now reached about halfway point in season 6. We sit 5th but are in a very comfortable position, top half of the conference are much stronger then the bottom half (10p seperate 8th and 9th). Sykora and Kubina have both been sent packing as there simply is no room for them any longer. This does mean we are STILL fighting the salary floor...after all these years. :grin: Both players lost their spots and when Sykora got his chance he was terrible, haven't been much better for Nashville so far either. Kubina did get a decent run before he got traded but refused to re-sign, so off he goes to Philly and we get Burke Henry back to add some depth to that defense.

Peverley has been outstanding in his first season, 56p (18+38) in 59GP. The only questionmark in my top6 would be Havlat. He hasn't been bad by any means, but he certainly isn't putting up the kind of points the rest of those 2 lines do. Craig Anderson is doing great in AHL, might get a look next season as Vokoun has dropped a lot for me this year.

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Post by bruins72 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:11 pm

Timing is everything in EHM! In June of 2003 Roberto Luongo signed a 4 year $8.2M contract with the Islanders. I had tried to pry him for them since the start of the challenge. Something must have happened there because they decided to make him available. They gave CuJo (who was signed in 2002) the vast majority of the starts last season and paid him more. Maybe that had something to do with it? I don't know but I jumped on this opportunity. Being available, his value with the Islanders was lowered. At 24 years old, he's already a stud goalie. I offered them my starting goalie, Bryzgalov, who I had drafted and developed, plus a 4th round pick in the next draft... and they accepted! We've played 13 games so far this season with Luongo getting most of those starts. He's 10-1-0 and we're sitting at the top of the Eastern Conference with a 4 point lead over the next best team. I'm hoping we can keep this going.

Kovalchuk, Sharp, and Bieksa are all on the NHL roster right now. Sharp is doing okay. He's moving between the 2nd and 3rd lines. Bieksa is doing okay, actually putting up some points, but he's a -2 right now. Kovalchuk is great! He's leading the team with 12 points. I've really got to find a balance for Zetterberg though. I've tried him on the 1st and 2nd lines but he was getting too tired out. His condition was dropping to the 70%'s because he was also playing 2nd PP and 2nd PK. Right now, I'm trying him on the 3rd line. I'm hoping to get three good scoring lines going. We'll see how that works out. I hope we can keep up this pace!

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Post by CJ » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:54 pm

bruins72 wrote:We've played 13 games so far this season with Luongo getting most of those starts. He's 10-1-0 and we're sitting at the top of the Eastern Conference with a 4 point lead over the next best team. I'm hoping we can keep this going.
Good luck! :-) :thup: That sounds really good!

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Post by kennec » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:55 pm

bruins72 wrote: Kovalchuk, Sharp, and Bieksa are all on the NHL roster right now. Sharp is doing okay. He's moving between the 2nd and 3rd lines. Bieksa is doing okay, actually putting up some points, but he's a -2 right now. Kovalchuk is great! He's leading the team with 12 points. I've really got to find a balance for Zetterberg though. I've tried him on the 1st and 2nd lines but he was getting too tired out. His condition was dropping to the 70%'s because he was also playing 2nd PP and 2nd PK. Right now, I'm trying him on the 3rd line. I'm hoping to get three good scoring lines going. We'll see how that works out. I hope we can keep up this pace!
Nice wingers you got, sharp and kova....
Kova looks much better then Gabrik in my game :) and are younger.

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Post by kennec » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:13 pm

m0fownz0r wrote:For some reason the Shakrs decided to shop Marleau around and needless to say were veeeeeeeeery interested

...after some negotiation

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amazing trade. marleu is superb . I have tryed to get him 49 times but they always refuse :)

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Post by bruins72 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:17 pm

I didn't even see that post? Where was it? That's a great trade!

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Post by kennec » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:54 pm

bruins72 wrote:I didn't even see that post? Where was it? That's a great trade!
Page 6 somehwere... I played challange 42 alot yesterday and today when i was looked in an airplane on way to work in Prague i opened all pages of this thread and read em offline :) I tryed get a star winger yesterday and Marleau is prolly one of the best in that bunch i failed to get. :joy:

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Post by bruins72 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:24 pm

Ah! I must have missed the original poster's post. I'm glad the challenge entertained you while you were travelling!

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Post by kennec » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:45 pm

Season 1 “Bolts sucked”
Tampa Bay Lightning challenge 42
To sum up the season I can use two words: Bolts sucked!
Puppa and Ranford shared the goal tending and didn’t play good. Bolts ended up at a disgraceful 29th spot in NHL. It’s my worst moment as manager in EHM games ever in 11years playing them.

-Renberg (19g+23a) played well with Janney (20g+34p)
-David Wilke managed to reach 41points (11g+30a) in 78 games. Don’t ask me how he did it. I didn’t use any tactics on him at all.
-Our only decent center announces to retire, Janney

Draft 99
1 3 Henrik Sedin =D>
2 31 Jan Marek
2 45 Johan Franzen
3 61 Ilya Bryzigalov
3 63 Branko Radivojevic
3 65 Sean Avery
3 75 Jimmie Ölvestad
4 91 Ryan Malone
4 94 Craig Andersson
5 121 Mike Comrie
5 123 Dimitri Subbotin
5 126 Toni Lydman
6 151 Chris Kunitz
6 157 Samuel Pålsson
6 180 Vladimir Antipov
7 181 Niklas Bäckström (the keeper)
7 183 Petr Gregorek
I was happy to get one of the Sedin brothers, a young center to build around. My scouts loved. A bunch of rooster players to AHL was added and 2 young keepers. Marek is looking good and mayby he can devolp to a 2C.

Trades
Karel Betik
Vincent Lecavalier TO BUF FOR
-2nd Round Pick in 1999
-Brian Campbell =D>

Steve Kelly, Paul Mara TO TOR FOR
-Tim Thomas , 4th Round Pick in 1999 =D>

Daren Puppa to jets for
-4th Round Pick in 2000
-4th Round Pick in 1999

Paul Ysebaert to kings for
-3rd Round Pick in 1999
-3rd Round Pick in 1999

Wendel Clark ,Andrei Skopintsev to CBJ for
-2nd Round Pick in 1999
-5th Round Pick in 1999

Jason Bonsignore, Mike McBain, Mario Larocque, Xavier Delisle, Michal Sykora ,Stephane Richer, Paul Comrie, Jassen Cullimore, Robert Petrovicky, Mikael Andersson, Enrico Ciccone, Corey Schwab
-to different teams for different picks (mostly 4rd to 6ths)

Derek Wilkinson, Brent Peterson to bruins for
-Shawn Bates

Shawn Bates to BUF for
-Michael Peca + a 5th !!!! :joy: :joy:

Cory Cross, Alexander Selivanov to bruins for
-Kyle McLaren :joy:

Trade analyse
Net
-brought in Tim Thomas with the great Moustache on the profile pic, he must be much better then the ones I have now. Toronto had Coju and tim was easy to get from leafs.

Defence
-brought in a young promising blueliner in Campbell, price was high but my defence lacked future after moving Mara to Toronto. Mclaren is solid dmen and was a nice trade for bolts.

Offence
-In this challenge I have learned to read the news and saw in media that Peca future was uncertain. Just 10 days before I moved for Bates to anchor 3rd line but he had to go. With Peca I got a solid replacer for Janney and only 25 years old. The chain with lecavalier for dmen and dmen for keeper solved a lot of holes in my team and mclaren and Peca trades was the veterans bolts needed to build around.

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Post by kennec » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:30 pm

Season 2 “winning the wrong league”
Season review
Finished 25th in NHL. Could have finished around 20th but I played ranford and tanked little last 10 games to get better pick in the draft. Lydman went straight to 2nd pairing from finish top league and made a very good first seson with 38p. Renberg,Peca,Thomas, Boyle, Maclaren played solid. Subbotin was Calder runner up with 47 ( 20g,27a) from the wings of 2nd line, he clicked well with Lydman and Langkow.

Lines:
Tucker-Peca-Renberg
Dumont/Comrie-Langkow- Antipov/Subbotin
Zamuner-brown/comrie-Yachmenev
Very fluid lines for 2nd and 3rd , sometimes played with 4th line to depending on fitness and form of my rooster dudes. I kept my young newly drafted played in Cleveland to play in AHL.

Mclaren-Boyle
Lydman-Wilkie
Dykhuis-Bannister
Thomas-Ranford

With Boyle defense got much better and PP % increased. Willkie played much better then hes supposed to and kept hes spot on 3-4.


Trades in januari:
Zac Bierk, Andrei Nazarov to Predators for
-Vitali Yachmenev

Eric Beaudoin, 3rd Round Pick in 2000 to Blackhawks for
-Jean-Pierre Dumont

Vladimir Antipov, Chris Kunitz to Panthers for
-Dan Boyle

Corey Spring, Oak Hewer to sabres for
-Curtis Brown

Trade analyze
Needed more fast wingers, Dumont and Yachemev can play 2/3 line and can improve. Boyle had 17 passing and bolts needed as passer to the slow and uncreative Kubina and Mclaren. Curtis brown will be “star” of the 3rd line, hes overpaid and was easy to get in trade.

Cleveland
Henrik Sedin had a great season in Cleveland and produced 123p (47g, 76a) in regular season.
At the end of the season, Kubina, Thomas, Dumont joined Sedin, Malone, Campbell, Pålsson and Marak to play the AHL playoff. Together with the reinforcements from the mother club Sedin was winged by Dumont and Comrie and outscored everyone to win Calder cup. Tim Thomas won 16 out of 18 games in the playoff. The Calder win was a training camp for the bigger trophy from lord Stanley hopefully.

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Post by bruins72 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:58 am

Nice work! Looks like this are coming together for you. You've made a couple interesting/good trades there. I think trading Lecavalier while his value is high is a good move. He doesn't really become a superstar in this save. He's really a 2nd liner but can play 1st a little too. I've actually had him jump around lines 1-3. JP Dumont is solid but not spectacular. He's a good 2nd line winger for me. Malone is a good draft pick. He's a fairly reliable 2nd/3rd line winger pretty quickly. McLaren is good for defensive stability and leadership. Pahlsson was a bit of a disappointment to me. I expected him to be a stud defensive forward and he never really became better than a 4th liner. He's been a healthy scratch in my latest season.

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Post by kennec » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:42 am

bruins72 wrote:Nice work! Looks like this are coming together for you. You've made a couple interesting/good trades there. I think trading Lecavalier while his value is high is a good move. He doesn't really become a superstar in this save. He's really a 2nd liner but can play 1st a little too. I've actually had him jump around lines 1-3. JP Dumont is solid but not spectacular. He's a good 2nd line winger for me. Malone is a good draft pick. He's a fairly reliable 2nd/3rd line winger pretty quickly. McLaren is good for defensive stability and leadership. Pahlsson was a bit of a disappointment to me. I expected him to be a stud defensive forward and he never really became better than a 4th liner. He's been a healthy scratch in my latest season.
Thanks! Yes i liked the trade, just looking at vinny trade alone make me feel like i lost the trade but putting it in the bigger perspective i think i got better assets in all parts of the tea,. Peca might not be a super star center but he play important in team in pk,4v4,leadership and so on. Vinny got replaced by got Henrik Sedin in the draft who was promising center also. Campbell had the highest scout report a player can get, "exellent prospect with tons of potential" and is offensive dmen 1-2 potential and compares to scott niedermayer with smaller potential =D> .

I have spent hours and hours on scouts, trade screen and made notes about opponents managers rankings of their players. Scouts are key in this challenge it is so few who are good.
I have sacked scouts under value 17 in potential and ability. The ones with high ability get assignments to search Leauge->NHL permanent at age 19-25. The best ones with high potential are searching NHL and AHL at age 19-21 and do intensive searches for the coming draft. Before the draft i use the games "create note" and write what scouts thinks or special thinks like determined or sniper if high shooter.

Jake Goertzen is my main man in bolts and he always scout my shortlist when he got nothing to do, and when i set a trade he gets in for final scouting of target while i put trade on "delay". I specially look for general impressions, career role, projections for season with bolts and the report card. On the report card the players mental traits are described and in report card the injury status (prone?). In notes and stats the scout describes the players hidden potential, best is excellent prospect with tons of potential.
By playing the game slow as a manager i work to improve the squad from the asset perspective. I am not as good as coach and play all games highest speed possible.

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