Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by bruins72 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:35 pm

Ippo wrote: I also made a trade in February, Mike Ribeiro to Chris Stewart. Although Ribeiro was performing really well, I wanted to get a replacement for Langenbrunner and Stewart was the perfect fit. Then I moved Glennie to 2nd line and he was doing just fine, so Ribeiro's department didn't hurt one bit. I'd like to improve my defense in next season, but it seems that most of the UFAs are either too expensive or they just choose another team over Dallas. I guess trading would be the only viable option, but we'll see how that works out.
Nice deal to get Chris Stewart! :thup:

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by Ippo » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:02 pm

Well, the Olympics just started and after 60 games we're number 1 in the league with Red Wings. I still haven't managed to make a trade for good defender, although it's been close a couple of times, Hamhuis being the prime example, but I hesitated and he was already gone. In fact, my only acquisition so far in season 4 has been Cal Clutterbuck (UFA signing). My current line-up looks like this:

Morrow-Richards-Eriksson
Benn-Glennie-Stewart
Ott-Sutherby-Neil
Barch-Zibanejad-Clutterbuck

Daley-Robidas
Woywitka-Goligoski
Fistric-Klefbom

Lehtonen
Biron

I'm pretty happy with our attack, but I'd really like to add a top defenseman so that we'd be more solid in our own end during the playoffs. Only one week to trade deadline though...

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by bruins72 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:26 pm

Things can come together pretty quickly at the trade deadline though. You should be okay.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by batdad » Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:57 pm

I wish I had more time to get on this. I am leaving for vacation for 10 days tomorrow, and have been really busy with kid baseball and hockey. I am still stuck on the day after the NHL entry draft in season 1. Not sure how much further I am going to get, but will really try and finish season 1.

I want to be able to make this my team. I just don't think I am going to have the time to do it.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by nino33 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:27 am

Hello! My first challenge, and actually my first full season of EHM. I've been mostly editing since I discovered EHM last year, and previously I've only played about 50 games of an Oilers season once last fall.

My first season in Dallas was awful, worst in the Conference, consistently losing from mid-season onwards...and my AHL affiliate was even worse!

I kept Benn in the AHL all year, hired Paul Coffey as an Assistant Coach for Dallas, not much happened in the first year....I spent A LOT of time familiarizing myself with the players in the Dallas system, and planning for the draft and free agency, not enough time on the in-game tactics as I made my way through the first year.....by the last 20 games of the season I was well out of the playoffs and already looking ahead to "next year" (given the experience of some I was very happy not to get fired; fortunately for me the Board was always "satisfied" with my "overall performance"). I was so happy when the off-season arrived...

Signed most of my unsigned prospects before and after the draft (the same prospects I forgot all about initially when starting the game!). I was very pleasantly surprised to find out I'd won the draft lottery! I had forgot all about the draft lottery, and had prepared for picking third....now I had a tough choice, as I liked both Nugent-Hopkins and Larsson (and I think I coveted Nugent-Hopkins more BECAUSE I thought he'd be gone for sure before I got to pick). In the end I ended up going with Larsson, as I loved the idea of a stud on the blueline AND while perhaps Nugent-Hopkins is a special player Dallas has enough small skillful forwards IMO (and I'd like some size with my speed and skill). Signed the unsigned prospects I needed to; made some minor staffing changes among the scouts/trainers, and I let Charlie Huddy's contract expire and hired Wayne Gretzky and George Kingston as Assistants.

In free agency I was not able to get who I wanted (Eric Brewer), and while I think I could have brought Antti Miettinen back to Dallas I chose not to.Though I liked Ethan Moreau (a lot), Sami Salo and a couple of others, none of those Tier 1 free agents that were asking $800K-$1.8M seemed "worthy enough" compared to two Tier 2 free agents...in the end I went with two old guys for some short term defensive help (Dave Scatchard and Jay Pandolfo). I think I'm going to save my trade for awhile...I like the idea of using my trade to help me move my own soon to be UFAs when I don't intend on resigning them (so I can get something in return for them) and/or using it at the Trade Deadline.

I'm now into August, and Training Camp is just around the corner...Season 2 here I come!

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by Ippo » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:22 pm

Trade deadline came and went, but I didn't manage to make a trade for anyone I really wanted, so that was a bit disappointing but no can do. Last 20 games of regular season were our worst stretch of games in 09/10, but I was still hopeful that we'd do well in the playoffs.

In first round we played against Calgary, whom we beat in all four games before, so I expected a 4-0 sweep for us. In the end we needed 5 games to beat them, but the Flames never looked like being a serious threat, so an easy series for us. Next up was Minnesota, whom I thought to mount a serious challenge, but we swept them 4-0 and made it to the conference finals once again, this time against Vancouver. This series was really close, both teams won one game at a time and it went down all the way to game 7. Thankfully we had the home advantage, which eventually helped us to win the match 4-2 and we were through to the SC final against Carolina (bit of a surprise there). We started the series well and won the first game 4-2 at home, but after that Carolina improved their game and won the next three (1-5, 1-5 and 2-4), while leaving us in a position where we would have to do the same against them in order to win the cup. We did win Game 5, but couldn't do the same at Carolina in Game 6 and lost 2-4.

All in all a good, but in the end a bit disappointing season for us. Making it to the final was obviously great, but we really should've done better against Carolina. Don't know if I want to play another season, but maybe I just need a short break from this. I should go through the draft for the least, let's see who we can get with our 28th pick.

Oh right, some of our members were nominated for winning an award:

Bill Masterton Memorial - Scott Glennie 3rd
Calder Memorial - Cal Clutterbuck (age 26!) 3rd, also made it to the Rookie All-Stars team
Conn Smythe - Chris Stewart 3rd
Jack Adams - Marc Crawford 2nd
Lady Byng Memorial - Loui Eriksson was the winner and Brad Richards 2nd

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by nino33 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:34 am

Year 2 Training Camp's done, as are exhibition games.....I was hoping for some epic battling for positions at the wings, but both Benn/Polak at LW and Burish/Barch at RW turned out to be a bust (all 4 had poor camps...AND there were multiple News reports noting the poor/disinterested play of Benn/Burish as well as Williams and Fistric, I ended up giving them all an "Official Warning"); Benn was sent to the AHL (4GP with no PTS and a -2). as was Polak (2 goals in 5GP but a -3).....went 1W 4L in the preseason, young goaltender Campbell played well in the scrimmages but was blown out 6-0 and 6-1 in the two games he started, young C Glennie had a rib injury and didn't show a lot in camp and was sent back to Junior, while #1 overall D Larsson looked really good but he's only 18 so I sent him to the AHL...


Starting 2007-2008 with the following line-up...

B. Morrow - B. Richards - L. Eriksson
S. Ott - M. Ribeiro - J. Langenbrunner
J. Pandolfo - D. Scatchard - J. Williams
B. Sutherby - A. Burish - K. Barch

K. Skraskins - T. Daley
J. Woywitka - A. Goligoski
M. Fistric - S. Robidas

Lehtonen
Raycroft

After fininshing 28th overall in Year 1 I'm trying to think "long term" and trying to take small steps, but I'm not going into Year 2 with any confidence - last year I was 5 games above .500 after 20 games, only to fall to 15 games below .500 the rest of the way....I'm hoping some improvement in Practice/Tactics and a more focused approach will produce an improvement; I hope to contend for a playoff spot (but I might be dreaming!)...

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by bruins72 » Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:12 pm

I've wrapped up my second season (just need to get to July 1st for screenshots). I ended up turning things around from my early misery. As I had mentioned in an earlier post, I was fired despite turning things around. I kept the positive trend going when I added myself back in. I ended up finishing as the top team in the league and winning the President's Trophy. We faced the Ducks in the first round and beat them in 5 games. Then we took on the Red Wings in the second round. We swept them, winning 4 games straight. In the Conference Finals we faced the Blackhawks. Unfortunately, we didn't fare as well against them. We lost the series in 6 games. Still, it was an improvement from the previous season, so that's a good thing.

The awards came out...

Brad Richards: 3rd in Ross, Lady Byng winner
Loui Eriksson: 2nd in Lady Byng
Brendan Morrow: 3rd in Rocket Richard, Plus-Minus winner
Kari Lehtonen: Vezina winner, Roger Crozier winner, Second All-Star Team
Craig Adams: Selke winner
Marc Crawford: 2nd in Adams

Now too shabby. A Stanley Cup would've been better though.

And then it was on to the draft. Ugh! What a terrible draft! There were a few gems at the top of the ranks but I picked 29th and the pickings were slim by then. Seriously, I'd be surprised if anyone I picked in this draft made it to the NHL.

Rd1 29th Sebastian Collberg RW/LW 5'11" 176 lbs 18y/o SWE
Okay, this guy MIGHT make it to the NHL but I wouldn't hold my breath. He's not that big and his strength is only an 8 but he's a pretty good skater and he's both aggressive (20) and brave (16). My top scout says he's a skilled forward with 3rd line potential. Compares to a poor man's Steve Downie.

Rd2 59th Jonas Emmerdahl RD/LD 6'2" 178 lbs 20y/o SWE
I'm guessing he's a career AHLer with a few callups. My scouts say he's a skilled 5-6 dman and compare him to Craig Rivet. He's already a decent skater, has no glaring mental weaknesses or technical weakness either. He's not bad. He's just not all that great.

Rd3 89th William Karlsson C 6'1" 176 lbs 19y/o SWE
Scouts says he's a quick offensive forward with 3rd line potential. Compares to a poor man's Steve Reinprecht. His influence (16) and teamwork (19) are his key attributes.

Rd4 119th Rob Madill LW 5'10" 187 lbs 18y/o CAN
And I finally picked my 1st North American in this draft! Scouts says he's a skilled forward with 3rd line potential. Compares to Eric Nystrom with a smaller frame. Decent aggression (13) and bravery (15).

Rd5 149th Matt Tomah LW 5'11" 205 lbs 19y/o CAN
I went for aggression (16) and bravery (14) again. He's also determined (15) and has both strength (15) and stamina (16). Scouts say he's a flashy forward with 3rd line potential. After the draft they're comparing him to Kris Versteeg. They didn't say that during the draft.

Rd6 179th Mike McKee LD 6'5" 231 lbs 18y/o CAN
He's a big boy! He's also got serious strength (20). He's skates okay for his size and hits okay. Scouts say he's a defensive defenseman with 7th dman potential. They compare him to David Hale with a bigger frame.

Rd7 209th Mathieu Brisson LD/RD 6'1" 196 lbs 20y/o CAN
Decently balanced attributes for what he is. Scouts say he's another #7 defensive defenseman. They compare him to a poor man's Garrett Stafford.

So that's it for now. I've just got to get to July 1st for my final screen shot and I'll be all set.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by Ippo » Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:24 pm

Yeah, it's a terrible draft indeed. I don't think any of my picks have what it takes to make it to the big show, not even my 1st round and 17th overall pick, Grigorenko. I could have skipped every round to be honest. Good regular season though, wish I knew how to be as solid defensively as you.

I have started my 5th season, but I've been doing some experiments with individual instructions and they're not exactly working out, haha.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by nino33 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:13 am

I can't believe you were fired...after a brutal first season (28th overall) I'm currently 3-12-0 after 15 games in Year 2, and my Board just told me they are "quite pleased" with my performance!

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by robotco » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:03 am

once again, i'm considering starting my first challenge. but how long do we have? i actually just recently started getting back into ehm, and i noticed that the dallas stars challenge was posted in may. is there a time limit for how long we have to compete? i'm sorry, i read the rules but if that information is there i must have missed it.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by timmy_t » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:01 am

It ends on August 12th. Depending on how fast you play you could get two or three season in. :thup:

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Post by robotco » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:13 am

and do you only need to complete 1 season to qualify?

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by bruins72 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:27 pm

Basically. You can play as few or as many seasons as you like. If you're only able to complete 1 season then you'll only be in the rankings for season 1.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by batdad » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:11 pm

So I am in the process of making my first and only trade for the challenge. I am looking at moving Tomas Vincour for Brian Boyle of the Rangers. Boyle is 6 years older but 20 times meaner. Need me some of that. Plus he skates well and has a 17 wrist shot. That will look good on the PP. Not sure I am going to pull the trigger but think I will.

Also...have put in a claim for Chris Pronger, as the Flyers have waived him. But did not get...he went to Nashville. 2 more dmen immediately came up on waivers..Methot and Sarich (CBJ and Cal). Sarich is mean as well, and agressive so think I will bring him in. I may not though, as my defense is pretty good, and may wait to see what happens at the deadline with waivers etc. WOuld have loved Pronger though.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by bruins72 » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:22 pm

This team could use some mean, especially on defense! I'd pull the trigger on that deal. Vincour is no good at all in my game, so I wouldn't think twice about that deal. I think I got a really bad roll of the dice on random potential for my prospects. I really can't see any of the prospects that we started the game with that will ever make my roster, even if I played a good 5-7 seasons. Benn? Nope. Campbell? No way. Who else? They just stink!

Some of the prospects I drafted are looking pretty decent. Dougie Hamilton is looking decent but his attributes really haven't gone up in a bit. He's still playing in the OHL. He'll join our AHL affiliate next season (season 4). Michael St. Croix is still playing in the WHL and playing very well. He's got 47 points in 32 games so far. He's got mostly "yellow" attributes but his Deking has hit "green" (17). My scouts all compare him to Krejci. The other guys from that first draft are coming along too.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by batdad » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:59 am

Made both the moves. Same day! Sarich in on waivers. Tomas Vincour for Brian Boyle. Guess who I played that day? The Rangers!!

Boyle sets up the first goal. Then takes two roughing penalties for a 9 rating. Won 2-1. Boyle was 2nd star!

He was scoring with the Rags 5-8-13 in 17 games. So hopefully can work for me. Going to try and train him to play Right Wing as that is my biggest hole with Langenbrunner getting ancient, and noone after Eriksson.

Sarich--Opened the game by attacking and destroying Brandon Dubinsky on his first shift. 17 PIM +1 1 shot, 8 rating.

Good debuts for both. Hopefully practice only makes em better

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by batdad » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:08 am

One more somewhat random thing to add.

Take a guess at who this player is..

2006-07 Reg Season Tampa Bay 72GP 40-34-74 +27 8.25 rating
2006-07 Playoffs Tampa Bay 20 GP 11-19-30 +11 8.75 rating
2007-08 Reg Season Tampa Bay 22 GP 15-22-37 +10 8.82 rating

*2006-07 Conn Smythe Trophy winner
*Nov 26 NHL Off Player of the week 4g-7a-11pts in 4 games

**Hints to player:

He did not play for Tampa Bay in real life last season.
He is a RW both in game and IRL (has an added position I have never seen him play in EHM)
He is older than 30.

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by Manimal » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:43 am

batdad wrote:One more somewhat random thing to add.

Take a guess at who this player is..

2006-07 Reg Season Tampa Bay 72GP 40-34-74 +27 8.25 rating
2006-07 Playoffs Tampa Bay 20 GP 11-19-30 +11 8.75 rating
2007-08 Reg Season Tampa Bay 22 GP 15-22-37 +10 8.82 rating

*2006-07 Conn Smythe Trophy winner
*Nov 26 NHL Off Player of the week 4g-7a-11pts in 4 games

**Hints to player:

He did not play for Tampa Bay in real life last season.
He is a RW both in game and IRL (has an added position I have never seen him play in EHM)
He is older than 30.
Mikael Samuelsson?

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by batdad » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:18 pm

Yeah. Why am I not shocked it was you who got that...time to tone down Mr Sammy for version 4.0 :-D

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by nickflyers » Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:03 pm

Man this looks like a blast to do! I'm gonna try to join Challenge 21. My only issue is that since I'm in the Navy it may be tricky to post the screenshots that are needed. :-k :-k

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by batdad » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:34 pm

Looking to finish up season 2. Not sure I will on time, but going to try.
The most interesting thing about my season? Not much on the Stars. Sent Benn back to Texas after 50 games or so. Just not good enough, and I have Boyle now. Sarich and Boyle are fighting a ton. But in my last segment I have 5 guys on encouraged. Barch, Sarich, Fistric, Ott, and Boyle. Heh. WINNING!!!

Most interesting thing was world Jrs

Gold-Canada
Silver-Umm...Germany
Bronze-Umm..>Denmark
4th -Sweden

Relegated-Norway, Slovakia.

Promoted-Czech and Umm...Hungary.

Hilarious...

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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)

Post by McQwak » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:08 am

darkhorse, you posted "Players In" view instead of "Trades" view for your second season.
http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 27#p126027

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