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Pass the deal
7
28%
Reject the deal
18
72%
 
Total votes: 25

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kuulapaa
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Post by kuulapaa » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:10 pm

First rejection the Pens/Jets trade:
The Pens have a rookie GM, who is perhaps overestimating their own (and underestimating everybody else's) drafting ability. You add up the odds on those picks... not great. Combined with the lack of a standout prospect coming back... not great. Not great all around really.
2nd rejection to Pens/Jets trade:
Its just straight: Not only don't you trade a franchise goalie, you dont trade him for expandables. How do you not even get a 1st rounder out of that? Horrible deal, obviously.
3rd rejection:
That trade is bad for Pens. He gets some half decent players/prospects and that’s just not what you should get for a player of Murray’s calibre. The picks doesn’t have much value at all in a trade like this. Even getting solid players with late 1sts are hard these drafts. If you trade Murray, who also has a great contract, you should get same quality back or at least some top end prospects and high picks. Just because there are a lot of assets doesn’t mean a trade is great. Good and less assets>Many assets.
4th Rejection:
"Is Pittsburgh secretly run by Pierre Dorion? Six assets instead of real assets? Matt Murray is a stud on a good contract. Maybe I'm under rating the upcoming draft classes but I will practically guarantee that those picks amount to a smouldering pile of hot garbage when all is said and done.

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Post by RyanZabby » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:14 pm

isles voted

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Post by jookes » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:15 pm

panthers

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Post by wiggo » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:15 pm

jackets voted

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Post by Kiekkomestari » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:15 pm

Oilers have voted

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Post by AlexM » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:42 pm

Totes voted.

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Post by boxofjoe » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:43 pm

Sabres have voted

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Post by nine-o » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:43 pm

Blues voted

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Post by J-zizzle6519 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:49 pm

Wings

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Post by beezer2434 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:09 pm

Hawks voted

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Post by kevenxd_8 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:50 pm

stars voted

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Post by Dudeabar » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:05 pm

Lightning

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Post by kuulapaa » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:41 pm

Kings voted

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Post by Mauso » Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:43 pm

Preds

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Post by DGscharek » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:30 am

First, it is your right to veto. I do not dispute that or call me Pierre Dorion.
The thing I would like is that you vote the trade and not what you would do at
my position or what direction you believe is best for the Penguins.

Second, the last time you asked me to talk with the GM, ask for advice and look
at what it is doing in the league. Basically, the advice I received is:

1-evaluates the players according to the Scout report. Does not take players to
the potential 3rd line or 3 star. Looks for 4-5star in a role of 2nd or 1st line

2-do not over-evaluate the draft pick, the generated players is no longer worth
much. Compared to the beginning of the league, the 1st is worth about a late 2nd.

3-Look at the league and what it is doing elsewhere

Your vet surprised me because that's what I did:

1-Guild: 5star/1st line potential Two way Foaward compare to Taylor Hall

Arnold: 5 star/1st line defensive Potential

Cibak: 4 star/#3 Dman potential like Brent Seabrook

2-The Draft 1st picks, everyone tells me it's rubbish if it's not a top 10.
You're offended because the deal doesn't involve 1st. This is the reason I took
the young already create, already draft in 1st and that I find nice

3-I look through the league: the trade Subban was 1st,
1st, Dan Peterson (top 10 pick)
3rd, Zuccarello, Samosnov. If this trade was so good why mine is big rubbish?

I also have a bitter taste in my mouth. In your eyes, all prospects are rubbish or flops.
On the other hand, when I come to see you for Prospect 4 star you say to me: oh i dont
want to trade him or give me a 1st pick!! For example, @kings you were the first to
Veto... 3 days ago I came to see you for Rossi 22 y. O (4star 2nd line potential) and
you ask me 1st pick! Now you talk like Guild and Arnold are pure rubbish... but if guild
would have been in your team: How many 1st pick would you have asked me? It is possible
that you do not like these players but you have to consider that they are 1st pick.
Watch the draft coming... look at the position #11 has #30... Would I have been better
off drafting one of his guys rather than guild or Arnold? At the end of the account I
would like you to judge the value trade and not what move you would have done if you
were GM Penguins. I tell you frankly, I prefer rebattir with these 3 young + my pick
rather than having A 30-year-old goalkeeper who will play for an average of 3.76.
At worst, I would sign a UFA that will play for 4.00 and grow with the profit of the
trade Murray and my team next year. I will have 20m Undercap + 2 x Top 10 + those
3 prospect and Gozzi, this is the kind of team I would like to have.

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Post by Mohawk_Krieger » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:35 am

Sharks

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Post by rell1k » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:39 am

Wild

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Post by Andrew55 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:24 am

Bruins

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Post by m0fownz0r » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:35 am

Flyers

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Post by Daniel-Devils » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:47 am

Devils

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Post by P-T » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:55 am

Caps

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Post by aussiehabit » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:30 pm

Nucks

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Post by StormCloudsGathering » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:36 pm

Canes

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Post by bauxjangles » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:09 pm

Leafs

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Post by douglast5 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:55 pm

ya

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