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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by nino33 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:37 pm

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jhcjobpb wrote:The more pictures a game uses the better (player faces, team/competition logos). I've always wanted to make my linesups while having their faces showing. Same could be used in the top league leaders somewhere...
The problem with this is it then makes the user required to have facepacks.
And not everyone likes mugshots (I can't stand them)

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by dave1927p » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:22 pm

jhcjobpb wrote:The more pictures a game uses the better (player faces, team/competition logos). I've always wanted to make my linesups while having their faces showing. Same could be used in the top league leaders somewhere...

Like I tried to say before where players playable positions is showed in numbers (it's boring). It's a lot better to use a picture of all positions like Football Manager does (green=natural position, red=unplayable etc.).

Like I said, the more pictues the better. :-)
But the issue with that is once you play the game long enough, every player is fictional so the pictures then are irrelevant and a place holder one must be put in. I'd rather see their number and name above to make it look like their hockey jersey for that reason than their pictures. I also don't like seeing a players picture with the wrong jersey on :dunno:

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by philou21 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:45 pm

nino33 wrote:And not everyone likes mugshots (I can't stand them)
Yeah depends on the player haha Some of them just can't take a good picture. :-D
dave1927p wrote:But the issue with that is once you play the game long enough, every player is fictional
I actually never thought about that but you're right.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by CJ » Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:14 pm

Yeah if you play looong enough. 20 seasons and you're out of mugshots (I'm sure only a minority plays 15+ seasons with a team). But why not an option for the user, so you can custom the game for your liking? :-)

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by nino33 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:31 pm

jhcjobpb wrote:why not an option for the user
I totally support options!.....as long as it wasn't the only choice (like in FHM currently, where the only choice when watching the game play-by-play forces you to view mugshots/empty squares)

jhcjobpb wrote:if you play looong enough. 20 seasons and you're out of mugshots (I'm sure only a minority plays 15+ seasons with a team).
If you played using a Major Junior team I think you'd see few mugshots after only 2-3 years of play

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by dave1927p » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:18 am

jhcjobpb wrote:Yeah if you play looong enough. 20 seasons and you're out of mugshots (I'm sure only a minority plays 15+ seasons with a team). But why not an option for the user, so you can custom the game for your liking? :-)
I find it more fun after 20 seasons. If I get bored of a particular team and just resign and move on over to another one that's been struggling for a long period of time and rebuild them. I can go on doing that forever

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Kopi » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:36 am

Good luck guys! Wish you all the best at your project! :thup:


May I ask which leagues you have in mind to make them managable?

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Ogilthorpe » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:05 pm

Best of luck with your game, I'm looking forward to trying it out.

8-) :thup:

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by zbguy » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:40 pm

Yeah if you play looong enough. 20 seasons and you're out of mugshots (I'm sure only a minority plays 15+ seasons with a team).
I'm approaching the 20th anniversary of my league. Only around 30 real NHLers are left, a prestigious group. I like FaceGen for the rest and hope it becomes the norm for any and all management sims.

The jersey + number method isn't a bad alternative though.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by dave1927p » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:29 pm

zbguy wrote:
Yeah if you play looong enough. 20 seasons and you're out of mugshots (I'm sure only a minority plays 15+ seasons with a team).
I'm approaching the 20th anniversary of my league. Only around 30 real NHLers are left, a prestigious group. I like FaceGen for the rest and hope it becomes the norm for any and all management sims.

The jersey + number method isn't a bad alternative though.
facegen was cool at first in ootp but it looks very outdated these days. Still better than nothing though.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by dejaqwho » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:04 am

You wasted time on graphical art, that's time you could have been using on AI programing. Judging from those 2 pics, I smell a tycoon type of game. Hope that's not the case, but learn from FHM massive mistakes, if you waste time on sideshows and ignore AI you will end up with rubbish; such is the case in FHM.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Revo_Games » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:54 am

Kopi wrote:Good luck guys! Wish you all the best at your project! :thup:


May I ask which leagues you have in mind to make them managable?
We build it similar way like EHM Freeware, North America first and when its fully working we start to add more leagues, We will try to add as many leagues as possible from Europe, Every Major league for sure! after that we add tournaments in (International) one by one so we can test everything is working instead we add everything in one bucket and try to find a needle (bug) from a haystack...
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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Revo_Games » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:57 am

dejaqwho wrote:You wasted time on graphical art, that's time you could have been using on AI programing. Judging from those 2 pics, I smell a tycoon type of game. Hope that's not the case, but learn from FHM massive mistakes, if you waste time on sideshows and ignore AI you will end up with rubbish; such is the case in FHM.
Is not wasted time, Artist works on art and Coders do code, and it will not be a "Tycoon" game, reason we like the art to have in background because just "Txt only" games makes things very boring, atleast you have something to look and when thinking at your next move, It will be EHM style game at heart, not a comic fun game or anything but true Manager game, Background graphics is just to make it more easy on the mind (atleast we like to see something other than only txt all over the place)

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Revo_Games » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:07 am

Garethw87 wrote:Revo Games/Risto Games... :-p No no I'll leave that one for the conspiracy corner!

The game sounds ace already. I love that the game screens won't incorporate random things like 'click on the phone to make a call' that would just be - not good! Taking from Ultimate Soccer and EHM is just ace. Can't wait to see/hear more about it!
As much as we would like that but unfortunately Mr.Remes is working for Sigames and he is busy on his own, he have nothing to do with us other than being a Finn :P the company name comes from Northern Lights (Aurora Borealis) you can see it in our logo if you look more carefully at it, there is Revolution Games out there already so we don't want to step on their toes, our name come from a Finnish word of "Revon Tulet" which is in English = Northern Lights Aka Aurora Borealis here is some links of the effect, please take a look at the amazing natural feats :)

http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... navia?lite
http://lightsoverlapland.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28astronomy%29

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Garethw87 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:20 am

Revo_Games wrote:
Garethw87 wrote:Revo Games/Risto Games... :-p No no I'll leave that one for the conspiracy corner!

The game sounds ace already. I love that the game screens won't incorporate random things like 'click on the phone to make a call' that would just be - not good! Taking from Ultimate Soccer and EHM is just ace. Can't wait to see/hear more about it!
As much as we would like that but unfortunately Mr.Remes is working for Sigames and he is busy on his own, he have nothing to do with us other than being a Finn :P the company name comes from Northern Lights (Aurora Borealis) you can see it in our logo if you look more carefully at it, there is Revolution Games out there already so we don't want to step on their toes, our name come from a Finnish word of "Revon Tulet" which is in English = Northern Lights Aka Aurora Borealis here is some links of the effect, please take a look at the amazing natural feats :)

http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... navia?lite
http://lightsoverlapland.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28astronomy%29
I can see the detail in the logo yes. But thanks for the photos it is truly and amazing sight!

I like your explanation of how to work on the game. One league at a time, one by one.... Just don't forget to add the Asian League :razz:

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by RomaGoth » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:07 pm

jhcjobpb wrote:The more pictures a game uses the better (player faces, team/competition logos). I've always wanted to make my linesups while having their faces showing. Same could be used in the top league leaders somewhere...

Like I tried to say before where players playable positions is showed in numbers (it's boring). It's a lot better to use a picture of all positions like Football Manager does (green=natural position, red=unplayable etc.).

Like I said, the more pictues the better. :-)

Here's a quicky sample I made of what I mean with editing the lines. Of course there could be stats/attrivbutes and stuff near those somewhere too. Clicking a guy you choose who to replace. Would be simple and easy on the eye. :-)

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What? Rob Blake over Nicklas Lidstrom?

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by RomaGoth » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:11 pm

dejaqwho wrote:You wasted time on graphical art, that's time you could have been using on AI programing. Judging from those 2 pics, I smell a tycoon type of game. Hope that's not the case, but learn from FHM massive mistakes, if you waste time on sideshows and ignore AI you will end up with rubbish; such is the case in FHM.
This is kinda harsh don't you think? FHM is a brand new game that is still in development. Yes they released it too soon but if you have ever tried the OOTP baseball games, you would know that these devs know what they are doing. FHM will be a fantastic game with an unbelievable amount of customization.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by RomaGoth » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:12 pm

Looking forward to another hockey sim. Competition is always a good thing (at least for the customer) and as others have said, there will be room for multiple sims on my pc.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Ogilthorpe » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:19 pm

Revo_Games wrote:
Is not wasted time, Artist works on art and Coders do code, and it will not be a "Tycoon" game, reason we like the art to have in background because just "Txt only" games makes things very boring, atleast you have something to look and when thinking at your next move, It will be EHM style game at heart, not a comic fun game or anything but true Manager game, Background graphics is just to make it more easy on the mind (atleast we like to see something other than only txt all over the place)
I think it's a good start to adding some background graphics to this type of game and I welcome that sort of look for WHM.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by grits207 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:43 pm

Very exciting news!

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by dave1927p » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:30 am

I found it quite exciting too that they chose to announce the game on TBL first!

I'm glad they're not going the comic and arcady way.

Can we expect any customization? Would be awesome to see a dispersal and expansion draft.

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Revo_Games » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:20 am

dave1927p wrote:I found it quite exciting too that they chose to announce the game on TBL first!

I'm glad they're not going the comic and arcady way.

Can we expect any customization? Would be awesome to see a dispersal and expansion draft.
There will be all the editors available in the main menu separately (so you can create any database you wish)

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by maxrsp » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:42 pm

Good luck guys. You have an anxious beta-tester waiting... :nerd:

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by Garethw87 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:33 pm

When will your website be online?

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Re: World Hockey Manager 14

Post by aussiehabit » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:51 am

Will be on the lookout for the beta in the future. Very exciting news! !!!!

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