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Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 3:37 pm
by Peter_Doherty
Yeah, sales look good, if they do some advertising of it on steam and in Canada it could look really good :) Maybe add it to steam summer sales that's coming up in June or whatever?

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 4:44 pm
by giguer87
For myself, I've put so much energie to spam tweeter and facebook account to announce the game. 2 of my friend just bought the game. I will still continu to try to talk much as I can about the game.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 9:18 am
by Forgotten
Before they mass advertise, there are some things they will need to take a look at first, as well as licencing, the hard core guys knows what we are getting ourselves into, but new comers needs the polish for them to want to keep purchasing future editions.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:07 pm
by Peter_Doherty
We need the newcomers to buy this edition to make sure there will be future edition :)

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:50 pm
by giguer87
But for licensing... almost most of the player can do the update for now without any problem. So at this point, I don't think it's a big issue.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 5:34 pm
by batdad
Licensing is so far off in the future if ever. who cares about it? Wish people would stop talking about it. It has no bearing on the game or on the sales of the game at this point.

This version EHM EA HAS to be purchases a kazillion times, and then SI/Sega a few years from now can look at licensing if enough people buy this game to warrant moving forward from Early Access.

So...basically push the game every place and chance you get....and the people will come. They already are. Lots of newcomers here, and we need more...the more the merrier.

SI advertising will do what it can in terms of what the company deems as available $ for advertising. Just control what you can and spread the word, and do not worry about what SI is doing. They will be doing their best within the budgets they are given, and I am sure the guys working on this game are pushing to get more. But there is only so much they can do, and we can only support them and buy the game a zillion times over.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 6:00 pm
by Primis
Yeah re: licensing, I'd rather they concentrate efforts on cleaning the bugs up AND also making things editable.

If you give enough tools to the user, you don't need to bother with the licenses, IMO.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:39 pm
by archibalduk
Interesting Tweet about EHM's future from Miles Jacobson here (quoted below): https://twitter.com/milesSI/status/596369418424360960
@ChaoticLife13 wrote:@milesSI @eastside_hockey It's a long shot... but any chance you can comment on whether sales of EHM thus far bode well for it's future?
@milesSI wrote:@ChaoticLife13 @eastside_hockey we've got a long way to go before we are able to make any decisions like that - probably next year.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:12 pm
by Alessandro
Quite of a cold shower. I am rather sure EHM has more players than 07, definitely more than FHM and probably more than OOTP too...

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:16 pm
by Peter_Doherty
Why is that a cold shower? He just gave us the politician answer, kind of the answer he had to give us.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 9:43 pm
by saberhagen83
Agree. The EA version was released kind of late in the season as well. My guess is they will let it be heading into the new year and look at how well it has done. If a "new proper" version of the game will come, it will likely be for the 2016/17 season earliest, I think.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 10:20 pm
by archibalduk
saberhagen83 wrote:Agree. The EA version was released kind of late in the season as well. My guess is they will let it be heading into the new year and look at how well it has done. If a "new proper" version of the game will come, it will likely be for the 2016/17 season earliest, I think.
That's my thought too. I think it's quite positive because hopefully we'll see EA until early next season (I've seen it said a few times that at some point the rules in the game will switch over to the 2015/16 rules) - so that means potentially plenty of fortnightly patches.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 11:43 pm
by nino33
archibalduk wrote:hopefully we'll see EA until early next season...so that means potentially plenty of fortnightly patches.
That's what I'm thinking/hoping too

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 7:21 am
by Rand
Alessandro wrote:Quite of a cold shower. I am rather sure EHM has more players than 07, definitely more than FHM and probably more than OOTP too...
I wouldn't be too disheartened by it, like I said when I first asked the question (I'm @ChaoticLife13 on twitter) it was a long shot to think he'd even be willing to comment let alone that they'd have come close to making any sort of decision. It hasn't been on sale for very long yet, hasn't received any real advertising, and is still only in beta. The overwhelming majority of buyers aren't going to purchase it until after it's officially released. So early results may not be a great indicator of where it's heading.
The only thing I'd really take from that is his pointing towards next year for any sort of a decision, which would seem to imply this version is going to be in development towards the latter part of this year.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:21 am
by dejaqwho
Sebastian Palkowski wrote:we have the same with Canada and USA the top two (by far) and UK the strongest from all European countries.
Yet I still don't understand why you wasted so much time working on all those requests to add the Euro Leagues then, in the end it didn't work out for you. You released an awful product.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 12:46 am
by Filip Croatia

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 12:50 am
by Filip Croatia
Primis wrote:Yeah re: licensing, I'd rather they concentrate efforts on cleaning the bugs up AND also making things editable.

If you give enough tools to the user, you don't need to bother with the licenses, IMO.

I agree, but there are many players who likes game enough to buy it, but not enough to search for updates like logos and real names. For avarage player to buy the game, game needs to be "fancy" with some licensed stuff, because he could lose interest in it when he sees some weird name in Pens under #87.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 12:55 am
by batdad
Yeah, that is the downside for sure Filip. But I figure that is at least somewhat overcome by the fact that people like us who play this game, and are interested in buying it are either hockey geeks, or stats geeks. Which means we will start looking for those things. And with the link on the home screen to the TBL site for these things, it is not as if they are hard to find. Also when you google EHM .... what is the first hit? This site, with notations saying if you want the latest up to date rosters ,and graphics etc... :-D


So maybe not silver spoon fed which is what society seems to prefer nowadays, but at least bronze spoon fed. Well maybe spork fed.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:39 am
by sTeeL86
[quote="archibalduk"]Interesting Tweet about EHM's future from Miles Jacobson here (quoted below): https://twitter.com/milesSI/status/596369418424360960
Not that interesting. Essentially means no sales were not good enough. Rarely will things change around enough.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:04 pm
by batdad
I do not think it means much yet. That is really just the time frame they had set originally for the game I believe. But yeah, I am not sure if the 24K sold now is even close to enough to move further. Niche game, not sure what the market and what the targets need to be.

I hope it is enough, but it may not be come next year. We shall see.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 4:16 am
by Rand
Worth remembering this is still early access, I suspect the majority of purchases will come after the game is finished and complete. Most people are not likely going to want to spend time with a buggy unfinished product with significant issues yet.
No reason to panic about sales numbers yet. It's still early.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:02 pm
by helpie
Also people are hesistant to trust early access anymore after couple fiascos where the developer stopped updating the game.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:54 pm
by MWE
helpie wrote:Also people are hesistant to trust early access anymore after couple fiascos where the developer stopped updating the game.
To be fair to SI they have been going for nearly 30 years if you include Championship Manager and Football Manager, I don't think as things stand now that they would just stop updating the game.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:02 pm
by helpie
MWE wrote:
helpie wrote:Also people are hesistant to trust early access anymore after couple fiascos where the developer stopped updating the game.
To be fair to SI they have been going for nearly 30 years if you include Championship Manager and Football Manager, I don't think as things stand now that they would just stop updating the game.
Neither do I but when people sees "early access" in the name they nowdays become suspicious no matter who is the developer.

Re: EHM:EA Sales Stats

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:16 pm
by MWE
For the £8 that I paid (not sure what that is in dollars? maybe 15$?) I'm quite happy with the way development has gone thus far. Updates have been regular and I have only encountered one crash so far which wasn't a save killer all in all very good game that can only get better.