EHM The Blue Line

Franck wrote:

Phareux wrote:well is saved as a web page, but the page is nolonger available on the web but when i call it up this is what is on the web address. C:\Program Files\NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2007\EHM 2007 THE BLUE LINE\Repost of good practice outline.mht

It's saved on your local drive, you'll need to either copy the text from it or upload the file that it is stored in to a website for anyone else to see it.

batdad wrote:Yeah I recall the post, and thought: Wow! This guy must be playing the game 24/7 for the whole month it has been out to have such a perfect regime for dealing with the guys in practice. I am sure he is the EHM guru he made himself out to be.

Out of curiosity though...anyone actually think that it works better than anything else? Doubt it does. There is no one size fits all...that is what makes this game so replayable and so fun. And in one game Sedin may jump up with Dskills practice, but with another it may be shooting.

Like was said above...just a starting point. THe only way to get it right is to experiment on your own.

Why are you always so angry Batdad? I belive you could use a smile!
I belive they say that if you smile the rest of the world smiles for you in Denmark, I suppose that makes sense somehow.

Edit: Whoopsie, I have no idea what happened with my post

actually the entire post is about 16 pages or so. still i will see what i can do.

No...not angry Franck...If you think I be angry you seen nothing. Ask my kids

In all seriousness, think about it...that practice post was originally out about 2 weeks after the game came out. And many people continue to use it today, and have not altered anything in their regimes for practice since that post. So...they stopped learning about the game, and challenging themselves to get better at it, just by accepting some guy's word on a post.

Now that is not to say it is wrong. But who is to say that the post is he best way? I don't use it, and I Seem to do fine in the game. (Well I do use 3 intense sometimes, but not in the way he has it set up) There are many ways to crack an egg, and I am really not sure why someone would only use one that was handed to them, and why there are so many (and yeah there are) who seem to want everything fed to them so they can go 82-0-0 and win the cup. Honestly, with the way guys trade in this game, I am shocked they are even worried about practice. Let the other teams practice and then trade your former stars who have declined and your 22 7th rounders for the top players on other teams.

I like people to learn on their own and not be spoonfed, and spoiled. I think there is nothing wrong with that. So yeah, I tell some people who want spoonfeeding alot that they should go do it on their own and learn.

So Franck...basically....hmmm how should I say it? I don't really give a hoot if people think I am a jerk, a goof, an angry old man or what. I just tell it how I see it, and if you don't like honesty....you won't like me.

Now back on topic...oh well if that thing was 16 pages long its no wonder I decided to learn it on my own. how can someone play the game for like 2 weeks and then take the time to make a 16 page post about practice? I mean come on...to quote someone famous:

"Practice, We just talkin' about practice here? Who needs stinkin' practice?"

Phareux wrote:actually the entire post is about 16 pages or so. still i will see what i can do.

Why not copy it into a Word document? You could then either keep it as a Word doc or save it as an RTF. Then you could upload the file here and we could put it in the downloads section?

i know this is a silly question, but i dont know how to upload a file to this site. I usually download files

There are directions for it.

I have been using the practice setup that mplasse and malhotra44 posted years ago on the EHM forums.

I've tweaked them many times and have one simple question.

Has anyone figured out a sure way to improve mental attributes - namely teamwork and work rate.

For teamwork you need to teach your players tactics in practice. Try to get a coach who is technique based and has a good tactical knowledge (15 or higher) and let him do the tactical stuff.

Workrate is one of those attributes that don't change.

I have recently started controlling my own practices and have a few questions about how to set them up during the off-season. Should I give my players some time off or keep them in a light general practice? When should I start getting them ready for training camp and when should I put them back into the regular season intensity level practice?

Thanks!

I go full out during the summer. Then a little bit before training camp I let them rest. After that what I do is fairly standard around here.

I thought practice didn't do anything during off-season.
Aren't players supposed to take a break during summer?
I just let them on general practice and my players condition always drops down to around 70% for some reason.

they drop to around 70% no matter what you do. By having them train intense on everything, I can generally get my players to improve their numbers.

do you mean that you set every practice option (Conditioning, Skating, Tactical...) to intensive?

Kujo, yes. For skaters everything but goaltending is at intense, and goaltending is set at none. For goalies everything is at intense but shooting.

thunderbug wrote:I go full out during the summer. Then a little bit before training camp I let them rest. After that what I do is fairly standard around here.

This past season (2009-10 w/ Nashville standard DB) I tried a new "bend but try not to break" practice regimen. I'm went all out throughout the season with monitoring. Skaters were at INTENSE on everything except goaltending. Goatenders were INTENSE on just about everything except a few categories (I should do it like you mentioned...everything but Shooting).

Then I made a few other categories that were half intense and half medium (one for fitness type categories, one for shooting/off/def) and kept general and rest. If my skaters got tired I adjusted them depending on how tired they got.

99-96 I used one of the half intense categories.
95-91 I used the General category
90-> Injured I used rest

When they got back up to 100% I ramped them up to my all INTENSE category. I'm in the cup finals now and so far I haven't seen any major long term injuries. I seemed to have a few more 7-10 day injuries, but with constant managing it never seemed to get much worse than my lighter seasons.

I also manage Milwaukee, my AHL affiliate. One thing about them is that they rarely got to a point where the INTENSE category was too much. Seems like either they could take it better or the coaching staff handled it differently? I dunno.

How well have your players developed with this practice regime though? I know sometimes they get bored of certain types of training, that's why it's good to shuffle things around a bit. I usually like to move them around between various regimens that include about half on medium and half on intense. Then I just move them around between those setups. Sometimes they might be on medium for tactics and intense for shooting. Other times they might both be on intense.

bruins72 wrote:How well have your players developed with this practice regime though? I know sometimes they get bored of certain types of training, that's why it's good to shuffle things around a bit. I usually like to move them around between various regimens that include about half on medium and half on intense. Then I just move them around between those setups. Sometimes they might be on medium for tactics and intense for shooting. Other times they might both be on intense.

Well let me put it this way. The year before Kovalchuk was really low in defensive stats. Now my coach wants to put him on PK. It worked for him at least. Didn't hurt his offense either as he lead the league with 66 goals. I would say just about all my players benefited and I didnt see anyone get bored or drop significantly. There were two cases where I didn't watch my AHL team close enough and a few players got tired (in the 50s and 40s) but they were Edmonton's players so no biggie.

Remember, because I move them when they go below 100%, in most cases there is constant movement; its just that most of the time they are on the all-intense training. So I think that cures the boredom. I have yet to use this in later years so I dont know how draftees handle the pressure of this kind of practice.

So, the best way to train technical training?
Best way to train goalie abilities?

I need a tip on how to set up a practice for a high offensive team, but keep everyone healthy. Do u have to do anything besides sign ure trainers to get them to do stuff? I dont see an option to assign trainersor coaches to anything. You can only assign scouts to things right?

The only ones who can be assigned in practice are head coaches and ass't coaches.

To do that, go to the 'Practice' screen and simply use the check-boxes at the bottom of the screen to assign a coach to a certain area of practice.

Just to amend B's reply, make sure that you do not have the head coach controlling practice. Check your General Manager Options screen.

thunderbug wrote:they drop to around 70% no matter what you do. By having them train intense on everything, I can generally get my players to improve their numbers.

Hmm, interesting. Thx for the feedback. Player conditioning was getting low and I have lots of guys on "resting" because they are below 90...

Ok then. Full steam ahead! Back on the bike guys and put on the pads!

Uhh... I might be daft here, but I've looked through EHM and searched the whole practice screen and have no clue how you set something to "intense".

I know you can set General, Resting, Shooting, Off Skill, etc. But, I didn't know there was a way to set intensity of each one. How do I do that?

Thanks.

jtilson23 wrote:Uhh... I might be daft here, but I've looked through EHM and searched the whole practice screen and have no clue how you set something to "intense".

I know you can set General, Resting, Shooting, Off Skill, etc. But, I didn't know there was a way to set intensity of each one. How do I do that?

Thanks.

Its normal! I had to look to at first!

Click on "Schedule". Select one training program (general per example). You'll see at the bottom the settings and the possibility to change the name.

How do you deal with conditioning and skating practice? I'm happy with my players deveploment in other areas, but these attribures seem to be always decreasing if I don't set them to intensive.
I guess the problem is with my coaches, what attributes do you prefer from them?
How many coaches you use in these schedules?