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Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 2:14 pm
by mr_mich
The manual also states that Scouts will "understand the game better" if they have better coaching/tactics attributes, although it's not clear what that means. They also mention that nationality of the scout and location of assignment comes into play (e.g. sending a Swedish scout to scout Sweden may get him eyes on a few additional players).

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:16 pm
by Obalobex
batdad wrote: If your scout sees a guy have a bad game and rates him...he will rate him low. A good game will rate him high. Need to see him a ton of times.
what? scouts dont even need to see games. you can scout players in the middle of summer and get a fully detailed scouting report back

scouts are largely random and they over-rate every moderately decent prospect. they will frequently take a 50/120 CA/PA 17 year old and tell you, unanimously, that he has 1st line potential, key player, five star future

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 1:53 am
by batdad
Yes that is true. But also go look at the reports, and you will see....when you scout the player individually...and they see him play a game...there is a box summary of the game that is shown, and well...the better the game the kid has the better the scouts sees of him.

Scouts are not largely random...they always give a result within the parameters of the player's potential. And no they are not always unanimous. Not even close. Maybe when you go and read reports they have changed to show what the head scout says or the last guy that saw him says, and yes that can be an issue. But....they also have their own opinions nad that is easily seen from the report card, and the notes...which are quite often different from each other, even if they all say potential first liner.

Love how you are new, and telling me what is going on. Not the case. You are not correct.

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:16 am
by Obalobex
are you always so antagonistic? every thread you're basically calling people out or insulting them

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:26 am
by Alessandro
Obalobex wrote:are you always so antagonistic? every thread you're basically calling people out or insulting them
Hands off batdad!!

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:37 pm
by Francois Tremblay
He doesn't seem antagonistic to me.

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 3:42 pm
by umwoz
batdad wrote:Yes that is true. But also go look at the reports, and you will see....when you scout the player individually...and they see him play a game...there is a box summary of the game that is shown, and well...the better the game the kid has the better the scouts sees of him.
Is there really? I had never seen this. Always learning something about this game.

It's probably obvious but under which tab?

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:03 pm
by batdad
Yes there is...scouting tab on the individual player-report card- Drop down menu and it is there. each scout reports. When I am looking at a player I ALWAYS look at this because it tells me things like if the guy has any hockey sense. The grade varies A, A- A+ B B- all the way to F-. This stat really helps me determine whether a guy of marginal ability can succeed at a higher level. Hockey sense can overcome quite a few things.

Look at Taylor Leier in your db. In mine his hockey sense is a B+, but his numbers and attributes look like he is at best an AHLer for his career. Yet I had him score 15 goals for me and if I were to continue in that game know I could get him to at least 20 (he got 15 on third line with ZERO pp time) Plan was 2nd line and 2nd PP for the next season.

Re: How can i tell my prospects potential?

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 5:04 pm
by batdad
Obalobex wrote:are you always so antagonistic? every thread you're basically calling people out or insulting them

No not the case at all. Just when people beat a drum that does not exist.

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:32 am
by ryazer24
sorry guys i've been reading and playing and I'm trying to understand where you're getting the numbers from for CA/PA.

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:36 am
by nino33
ryazer24 wrote:sorry guys i've been reading and playing and I'm trying to understand where you're getting the numbers from for CA/PA.
From a saved game, the EHM:EA Assistant http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... &start=225
Or using the database itself and the Pregame Editor http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... =88&t=6745 or EHM Updater http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 10&t=11154

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:29 am
by Tasku
nino33 wrote:
ryazer24 wrote:sorry guys i've been reading and playing and I'm trying to understand where you're getting the numbers from for CA/PA.
From a saved game, the EHM:EA Assistant http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... &start=225
Or using the database itself and the Pregame Editor http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... =88&t=6745 or EHM Updater http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 10&t=11154
... but many of us would consider that "cheating". They are not visible for a reason. ;)

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:18 am
by nino33
Tasku wrote:
nino33 wrote:
ryazer24 wrote:sorry guys i've been reading and playing and I'm trying to understand where you're getting the numbers from for CA/PA.
From a saved game, the EHM:EA Assistant http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... &start=225
Or using the database itself and the Pregame Editor http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... =88&t=6745 or EHM Updater http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 10&t=11154
... but many of us would consider that "cheating". They are not visible for a reason. ;)
Yeah, I'd be one of the many...

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:46 am
by Tasku
nino33 wrote: Yeah, I'd be one of the many...
Yeah, didn't mean that comment at you, although I quoted your post. Just felt I should "add" that to the end of your post, if you know what I mean. :-)

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:08 pm
by nino33
Tasku wrote:
nino33 wrote: Yeah, I'd be one of the many...
Yeah, didn't mean that comment at you, although I quoted your post. Just felt I should "add" that to the end of your post, if you know what I mean. :-)
I didn't think you meant it at me! HaHa
I do certainly value the tool from a testing/editing perspective

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:38 pm
by ryazer24
I see its for EHM 2007, does EHM:EA also apply?

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:51 pm
by A9L3E
ryazer24 wrote:I see its for EHM 2007, does EHM:EA also apply?
TBL rosters (all other custom rosters) have been uploaded here in the EHM 2007 database format, and must be imported manually to EHM: EA upon download. Thence, one can view the database even with the EHM 2007 editor.

Re: Potential and Scouting

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:52 pm
by nino33
ryazer24 wrote:I see its for EHM 2007, does EHM:EA also apply?
I'm not sure what "it" you're referring to...

There is no way of editing an EHM:EA database at this time (i.e. no way to edit just the database)
An EHM:EA database is created by importing an EHM07 database, so the Pregame Editor/EHM Updater are still used to edit the EHM07 database before it's imported into EHM:EA

The EHM:EA Assistant allows some direct editing of an EHM:EA saved game (you have to have a game running and then the EHM:EA Assistant reads the game data). Changes made using the EHM:EA Assistant affect only that particular saved game, the actual database is unchanged