EHM The Blue Line

Named wrote:I saw few players left to NHL immediately but not sure how it works. Sometimes draft choices can move immediately, sometimes not.

janks wrote:There should be fair rules.

If NHL team can approach my players under contract and without any clauses, I would expect I could also approach any NHL players or any other European league players under contract without clause.

If it ' s meant to be working just with players with foreign release clause - thats again the same - I should be able approach these players irrespective of league they are playing (NHL or any other major leagues).

nino33 wrote:

janks wrote:There should be fair rules.

If NHL team can approach my players under contract and without any clauses, I would expect I could also approach any NHL players or any other European league players under contract without clause.

If it ' s meant to be working just with players with foreign release clause - thats again the same - I should be able approach these players irrespective of league they are playing (NHL or any other major leagues).

I don't see it that way myself; IMO EHM is intended to be a simulation/approximation of real life (given one developer/limited time), I don't think EHM is intended to be a generic "fair" or be a sandbox type game for fantasy play (though with some editing efforts a lot can be achieved, and likely a lot more in the future - as Archi has noted, we're just "scratching the surface" on what we know about the editing options...maybe what you're talking about will be achievable)

Alessandro wrote:

nino33 wrote:

janks wrote:There should be fair rules.

If NHL team can approach my players under contract and without any clauses, I would expect I could also approach any NHL players or any other European league players under contract without clause.

If it ' s meant to be working just with players with foreign release clause - thats again the same - I should be able approach these players irrespective of league they are playing (NHL or any other major leagues).

I don't see it that way myself; IMO EHM is intended to be a simulation/approximation of real life (given one developer/limited time), I don't think EHM is intended to be a generic "fair" or be a sandbox type game for fantasy play (though with some editing efforts a lot can be achieved, and likely a lot more in the future - as Archi has noted, we're just "scratching the surface" on what we know about the editing options...maybe what you're talking about will be achievable)

Well, while I agree with your vision on EHM being first and foremost a realistic simulation, it's not like KHL (or other leagues') teams can't talk with agents once a player's contract is about to end...

Tasku wrote:But would the tampering rule effect a team outside the NHL?

nino33 wrote:Actually that's not allowed in North America (that'd be "tampering" https://www.google.ca/#q=nhl+tampering)

Alessandro wrote:

nino33 wrote:Actually that's not allowed in North America (that'd be "tampering" https://www.google.ca/#q=nhl+tampering)

So, when a team signs a players on July 1st at 00:01 you think they had a 60-second negotiation?

nino33 wrote:
Also, the rarity and uniqueness of the few times an NHL player has been "signed away" by another team doesn't IMO make it realistic to add; the NHL is unequivocally the #1 League and players worldwide want to come to/play in the NHL...that's why the (NHL) Release Clause exists

janks wrote:if NHL team have possibility approach player from Finnish league, then also KHL team should have such possibility.....as I understand there are currently no possibilities to edit these kind of transfers in editor, right?

andda715 wrote:The flag below sounds like it might be related to the KHL/NHL contract situation:
Transfer Rules --> Extra Rules --> Contract disallowed foreign clause

At least it is true for NHL & KHL, but not for most (all?) others.

Manimal wrote:"Tampering" is allowed between European teams IRL.
They can negotiate on new contracts whenever they want to

nino33 wrote:

Manimal wrote:"Tampering" is allowed between European teams IRL.
They can negotiate on new contracts whenever they want to

How about the "release clause" issue IRL? Do contracts actually have to be fulfilled by players? Or can they be "signed away" by another League and leave at the end of the season (or sooner?) despite having years left on their current contract?

nino33 wrote:

janks wrote:if NHL team have possibility approach player from Finnish league, then also KHL team should have such possibility.....as I understand there are currently no possibilities to edit these kind of transfers in editor, right?

As I've mentioned before, I haven't actually used the Editor yet, but I thought andda's post (below) indicated you could maybe give more leagues a "foreign clause" - I don't know what "foreign clause" actually means, and if ingame it's an NHL Release Clause (which isn't what you're looking for) or if it allows for any League to offer contracts to signed players - you'll have to experiment and find out (and then if you posted your results that'd be helpful)

andda715 wrote:The flag below sounds like it might be related to the KHL/NHL contract situation:
Transfer Rules --> Extra Rules --> Contract disallowed foreign clause

At least it is true for NHL & KHL, but not for most (all?) others.

colinrsmall wrote:Amazing work!

I noticed there's an option for the max number of teams in the league for the NHL. I remember last year with EHM assistant I was having trouble adding expansion teams due to a mismatch between the max number of teams in the league not equaling the real number of teams due to the added expansion teams. Will bumping that number allow us to make and add expansion teams into the game?EDIT: read through another post and found this is possible

Also, I was messing around and made a blank team to do a free-agents only run. I have two questions about this:
1. It's easy to manually remove contracted players from teams, but I wasn't sure how to remove player's rights in game. This isn't really an issue because you can release their rights with no consequence. However, for players on loan such as Jakob Chychrun (yes I removed the Yotes, suck it), I have to recall them from loan and release the player (buy-out style) and thus take a cap hit. It's not that big of a deal but I was wondering if there's a way to fix this.
2. Is it possible to move the start date back to give yourself more time to sign free agents before the season begins. I had an issue in that game where a lot of free agents would hold out on me to around the beginning of the season before accepting or denying my offers. I guess I could always sim a year and then remove players from teams in EHM assistant right after the draft or something like that.

I don't know why but this post ended up in the wrong thread. Oops

kev90 wrote:

nino33 wrote:

janks wrote:if NHL team have possibility approach player from Finnish league, then also KHL team should have such possibility.....as I understand there are currently no possibilities to edit these kind of transfers in editor, right?

As I've mentioned before, I haven't actually used the Editor yet, but I thought andda's post (below) indicated you could maybe give more leagues a "foreign clause" - I don't know what "foreign clause" actually means, and if ingame it's an NHL Release Clause (which isn't what you're looking for) or if it allows for any League to offer contracts to signed players - you'll have to experiment and find out (and then if you posted your results that'd be helpful)

andda715 wrote:The flag below sounds like it might be related to the KHL/NHL contract situation:
Transfer Rules --> Extra Rules --> Contract disallowed foreign clause

At least it is true for NHL & KHL, but not for most (all?) others.

I tested activating the Contract disallowed foreign clause in Germany / DEL and it's working for newly signed player within that league. There is no more the option to add the clause. However all players that have the foreign clause already attached to their current contract upon starting game keep the clause and the ability to join at the first available transfer window if signing with a NHL team (there is no way to edit the clause in current contract). So after the first 2-3 years the league should not lose any players to the NHL until their contract expires.

It appears that this clause is only for the NHL as I could approach any team in (Finland, Sweden, etc) while managing a team in the DEL and you can approach to buy any player (clause or not) who's already contracted but both the team and the player need to accept the transfer, which I was unable to do since one of them would always refuse.

nino33 wrote:I did find out that in the new CBA there's something called an "NHL Free Agency Interview Period" that allows for teams/agents to talk over 6 days prior to July 1st http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/how- ... ee-agency/