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M Ace wrote: I would like to finnish the OHL draft and the WHL draft. I have 2 rounds left of the OHL draft, and the whole WHL draft.

How do you set the values when creating the new players? Just curious as I am about to do the same for the Lidas rosters. We calculate CA based on stats

Manimal wrote:

M Ace wrote: I would like to finnish the OHL draft and the WHL draft. I have 2 rounds left of the OHL draft, and the whole WHL draft.

How do you set the values when creating the new players? Just curious as I am about to do the same for the Lidas rosters. We calculate CA based on stats

My lowest ability value for players in the major junior leagues is 50 and the highest if not topranked ISS prospect is 90. Therefor when I creating players in midget drafts I give;

1st Round of the draft: 49/-15 to the first round
2nd Round: 48/-15
3rd Round: 47/-15
4th Round: 46/-15
5th Round: 45/-15
6th-9th Round: 45/-14
10-15th Round: 45/-13

It is very, very hard to predict if this players are even going to play in the juniors. BUT I live for the moment and I have to expect they will. So this way it is possible to have at least a couple of the drafted players top ranked in future NHL drafts later on.

Hope you are satisfied with my response...

M Ace wrote: My lowest ability value for players in the major junior leagues is 50 and the highest if not topranked ISS prospect is 90. Therefor when I creating players in midget drafts I give;

1st Round of the draft: 49/-15 to the first round
2nd Round: 48/-15
3rd Round: 47/-15
4th Round: 46/-15
5th Round: 45/-15
6th-9th Round: 45/-14
10-15th Round: 45/-13

It is very, very hard to predict if this players are even going to play in the juniors. BUT I live for the moment and I have to expect they will. So this way it is possible to have at least a couple of the drafted players top ranked in future NHL drafts later on.

Hope you are satisfied with my response...

Yes, I'm satisfied. I understand how you're thinking but I think that there should be more of a difference between the picks.
With our statbased calculationsheet the juniors are between 45 and 95 in CA, so we're pretty even there

Manimal wrote:

M Ace wrote: My lowest ability value for players in the major junior leagues is 50 and the highest if not topranked ISS prospect is 90. Therefor when I creating players in midget drafts I give;

1st Round of the draft: 49/-15 to the first round
2nd Round: 48/-15
3rd Round: 47/-15
4th Round: 46/-15
5th Round: 45/-15
6th-9th Round: 45/-14
10-15th Round: 45/-13

It is very, very hard to predict if this players are even going to play in the juniors. BUT I live for the moment and I have to expect they will. So this way it is possible to have at least a couple of the drafted players top ranked in future NHL drafts later on.

Hope you are satisfied with my response...

Yes, I'm satisfied. I understand how you're thinking but I think that there should be more of a difference between the picks.
With our statbased calculationsheet the juniors are between 45 and 95 in CA, so we're pretty even there

I think it's hard to set ability on kids who have played midget hockey. Almost everyone who gets drafted in CHL Drafts are scoring. But there are a big WHY you get drafted. There must be a reason.

Good to hear we are even when it comes to junior

And to be serious I just set the abilities from the start just to get the draft in the game. Hell I don't even know who the kid is (if the kid isn't hyped like Crosby, Spezza & Bouwmeester was). If they sign with the junior club or college or even USHL/BCHL you can get diffrent views on them. I just think it's very hard to set abilities, so I have this scheme just to make sure they don't be completely busts.

And the diffrence between you and me is that I edit for myself, but if anyone want's a copy of my db I'm no stranger to that, but if you do, you have to accept how I set my numbers.

Ps. How does your statbased calculationsheet work? Ds.

Ok guys Update;

OHL Priority Draft 2010 is done. I will start with the 1st round of the WHL Bantam Draft now.

Here are som screen shots from my database as requested


http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=ho ... =787840240

M Ace wrote:And the diffrence between you and me is that I edit for myself, but if anyone want's a copy of my db I'm no stranger to that, but if you do, you have to accept how I set my numbers.

Ps. How does your statbased calculationsheet work? Ds.

Drop the attitude, please. I do my own editing as well.

The sheets works with several set values depending on league reputation, schedule size, player position and player stats

Manimal wrote:

M Ace wrote:And the diffrence between you and me is that I edit for myself, but if anyone want's a copy of my db I'm no stranger to that, but if you do, you have to accept how I set my numbers.

Ps. How does your statbased calculationsheet work? Ds.

Drop the attitude, please. I do my own editing as well.

The sheets works with several set values depending on league reputation, schedule size, player position and player stats

It wasn't ment to have a attitude. I'm so sorry, but as a said in the PM I sent you my english isn't very good.

What I meant was that I don't care what everybody thinks about my database because the only one who was using it up till this last week was me and my brother.

You and Lidas though; Of course you are doing it for yourselfs but you are uploading it to everyone. You're database are famous you'll see.

Everybody is talking about it on forums around. When you doing it like you do you have to listen to what people think about it

Did you read my PM?

What did you think?Are we close to each other?

M Ace wrote:
It wasn't ment to have a attitude. I'm so sorry, but as a said in the PM I sent you my english isn't very good.

What I meant was that I don't care what everybody thinks about my database because the only one who was using it up till this last week was me and my brother.

Sorry, I just thought you were being an ass, then I'd have to spank you

And your english isn't that bad. You should see how some of the Finnish boys write

I see that many people wants the players stats (points) for the last 3-4 seasons to be included as from 2005-2006 in the game.

My database offers that; In all Playable NA leagues and in many of the european clubs to. It was a hardwork, but when I edited the salaries i NHL I fixed the stats to. And now on when I create a new player the stats are updated immidiantly.

Thanks!

I see in your printed screenshot that you've set the 2010 OHL Priority Selection but the game is in 2006. How does tht affect the real 2010 Priority Selection in the game?

Manimal wrote:I see in your printed screenshot that you've set the 2010 OHL Priority Selection but the game is in 2006. How does tht affect the real 2010 Priority Selection in the game?

The effects will be, like it or not is; In the game after the in game draft 2010, it will be 2 1st overall picks, 2 2nd overall picks etc. For me who has made the draft, it works fine because I can filter it out.

And of course the players that are in the real draft can't be drafted in the game draft.

I have done it this way with every draft 2006-2010.

I rather have it this way so the "real draft" will be proper, the draft in the game later on is something you have to live with.

Other than that it's no problems

Update; Both my brother and my "Test rabbit" is at the 2011/2012 season.

My brother is going with default AHL and WHL leagues (too many teams), but my test rabbit has moved teams so it is enough teams in AHL and WHL.

I am very satisfied with the attributes and abilitys on the players in the NHL, there are very realistic points up to the end of the 2011 season.

Editing; I am finished with OHL and WHL draft 2010; Have made all players in the ISS scouting list for the QMJHL draft witch is at June 6th.

Have started with SEL and Swedish J18 Elit & J20 SuperElit. Has made Djurgårdens IF (SEL, J20 & J18) precisly now.

Going on with Färjestad now.

darn I am good!

Update;

* Just finished #49649 staff made in the database. To relate it with something, Lidas has almost 45000 made in his
database

* Färjestad (SEL), Färjestad J18 & Skåre BK made.

* All transfers until 16/5 2010 made.

Had to test the database by going on vacation, are at September 9th 2011 (no crashes) with every league maximated.

No I'm begining to edit HV71. darn it takes time when you update the playerstats to, but I have to it really makes this game better.


Thanks // M Ace

Hi M Ace,

I haven't been around too much lately and just got around to reading this thread. I'm a little confused about your DB and I was wondering if you could clear some things up for me.

• Why are you mixing fantasy leagues with real life leagues? If you are going for an accurate NHL team experience, ripping apart the lower leagues (UHL, etc) is not consistent with that.
• I don't think it's fair to compare your work to the work that Lidas has done on his DB. You are making a highly variable, mish-mash of a DB with some leagues updated to their current state and others totally changed based on some fantasy world.

I guess what I'm asking is this - what void in the community is your DB filling? Lidas' DB has done an incredible job of updating the game to it's current, real-life state. Those looking for an accurate, current experience should use his DB.

There are not many exclusively fantasy DBs out there, so I could see if you were focused there - adding retro teams/players and making new leagues, etc.

It seems like you are trying to both things in one DB and I'm just trying to understand why.

Manimal wrote:
Sorry, I just thought you were being an ass, then I'd have to spank you

And your english isn't that bad. You should see how some of the Finnish boys write

HEY!

axwel3221 wrote:

Manimal wrote:
And your english isn't that bad. You should see how some of the Finnish boys write

HEY!

Just joking

M Ace wrote:Update;

* Just finished #49649 staff made in the database. To relate it with something, Lidas has almost 45000 made in his
database

Quality not quantity

CatchUp wrote:Hi M Ace,

I haven't been around too much lately and just got around to reading this thread. I'm a little confused about your DB and I was wondering if you could clear some things up for me.

• Why are you mixing fantasy leagues with real life leagues? If you are going for an accurate NHL team experience, ripping apart the lower leagues (UHL, etc) is not consistent with that.
• I don't think it's fair to compare your work to the work that Lidas has done on his DB. You are making a highly variable, mish-mash of a DB with some leagues updated to their current state and others totally changed based on some fantasy world.

I guess what I'm asking is this - what void in the community is your DB filling? Lidas' DB has done an incredible job of updating the game to it's current, real-life state. Those looking for an accurate, current experience should use his DB.

There are not many exclusively fantasy DBs out there, so I could see if you were focused there - adding retro teams/players and making new leagues, etc.

It seems like you are trying to both things in one DB and I'm just trying to understand why.

Have I really complained in anyway bout Lidas db?

I just made a relation between the two bases. Just to have something to relate to...

And...can't I do what I want with MY database without getting yelled at everytime I write something in MY topic about MY database. I WANT to mix up fantasy with serious s*** beacuse it is really funny to face for example Broad Street Bullies in the pre-season because they have L.O.D....or face Cape Breton Oilers with the biggest bust of all time Jason Bonsignore.
And I really don't like to retire players just beacuse they are. The fantasy stuff doesn't really affect the real stuff. If you don't like the fantasy stuff don't search for it. The rep on the fantasy stuff makes it invisible for the real stuff.

And it is really nostalgic to look at the playerstats in NHL Retro League after say 30 games to see Hull, Oates, Lemieux battle for the scoring title. You can call this leagues what we say in Sweden called "Korpen".

And I don't ripping leagues apart. I just recreate them so every team in the league can be in the same league, Because for me it fells a bit of real fantasy to have some teams here and some teams there as you guys like. Like AHL, WHL, KHL, IHL to name a few.

This is what I like and I don't expext everyone to like, if you don't, then don't bother.

I thought we were fighting for the same thing, but maybe I was wrong because I starting to feel like a scapegoat on this forum...

Thanks Guys!

Manimal wrote:

M Ace wrote:Update;

* Just finished #49649 staff made in the database. To relate it with something, Lidas has almost 45000 made in his
database

Quality not quantity

Could you stop diss him? He's not Lidas, but so what, he can still make the databases he wants.

A9L3E wrote:Could you stop diss him? He's not Lidas, but so what, he can still make the databases he wants.

Thank you

M Ace wrote:

CatchUp wrote:Hi M Ace,

I haven't been around too much lately and just got around to reading this thread. I'm a little confused about your DB and I was wondering if you could clear some things up for me.

• Why are you mixing fantasy leagues with real life leagues? If you are going for an accurate NHL team experience, ripping apart the lower leagues (UHL, etc) is not consistent with that.
• I don't think it's fair to compare your work to the work that Lidas has done on his DB. You are making a highly variable, mish-mash of a DB with some leagues updated to their current state and others totally changed based on some fantasy world.

I guess what I'm asking is this - what void in the community is your DB filling? Lidas' DB has done an incredible job of updating the game to it's current, real-life state. Those looking for an accurate, current experience should use his DB.

There are not many exclusively fantasy DBs out there, so I could see if you were focused there - adding retro teams/players and making new leagues, etc.

It seems like you are trying to both things in one DB and I'm just trying to understand why.

Have I really complained in anyway bout Lidas db?

He didn't say that you complained about Lidas' DB, he just said that he didn't think that it was fair to compare your DB with Lidas' as you have a mix of fantasy, real life and retro in your DB.

However, I think that it's a good idea of a retro DB, why not do a DB that is completely only retro or one that is just fantasy?
Personally I find the mixture of these three that makes me not wanna use this DB, but if it was split in three I would love to play it, especially the retro one.

Nobody's dissing him. He himself keeps comparing his work with Lidas DB

joehelmer wrote:

M Ace wrote:

CatchUp wrote:Hi M Ace,

I haven't been around too much lately and just got around to reading this thread. I'm a little confused about your DB and I was wondering if you could clear some things up for me.

• Why are you mixing fantasy leagues with real life leagues? If you are going for an accurate NHL team experience, ripping apart the lower leagues (UHL, etc) is not consistent with that.
• I don't think it's fair to compare your work to the work that Lidas has done on his DB. You are making a highly variable, mish-mash of a DB with some leagues updated to their current state and others totally changed based on some fantasy world.

I guess what I'm asking is this - what void in the community is your DB filling? Lidas' DB has done an incredible job of updating the game to it's current, real-life state. Those looking for an accurate, current experience should use his DB.

There are not many exclusively fantasy DBs out there, so I could see if you were focused there - adding retro teams/players and making new leagues, etc.

It seems like you are trying to both things in one DB and I'm just trying to understand why.

Have I really complained in anyway bout Lidas db?

He didn't say that you complained about Lidas' DB, he just said that he didn't think that it was fair to compare your DB with Lidas' as you have a mix of fantasy, real life and retro in your DB.

However, I think that it's a good idea of a retro DB, why not do a DB that is completely only retro or one that is just fantasy?
Personally I find the mixture of these three that makes me not wanna use this DB, but if it was split in three I would love to play it, especially the retro one.

That is a funny thought about splitting it up to three.

If anyone want's a copy and start making something out of it you are welcome.

But myself, sorry for that I will continue to make it this way because I personally really like it this way.

But I can also understand if you don't like it...

Tasku wrote:Nobody's dissing him. He himself keeps comparing his work with Lidas DB

Who's work should I compare to if I want to make a relation between to databases?

But hell I stop comparing if it hurts everyone so bad....