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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:31 am
by fz50
No, unfortunately I have only one save game for the challenge.
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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:14 am
by eric1985
bruins72 wrote:timmy_t wrote:How is Scott Glennie doing for you?
He's got 70-something points in 27 games and has been the WHL player of the week/month every time.

I haven't been quite so fortunate with him. He was out for 12 days with a groin strain. I'm 20 games in and he's played 22 games and has 37 points. He's still looking good, just not as good as he is in your game.
So far in 62 games he has 82 points with a 8.48 rating. looking good so far.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:50 pm
by timmy_t
Ok, I'm ready to push the panic button. I'm 26 games in and am on a 5 game losing streak. 4 of my players have Low morale and 9 have Very Low morale. The only ones who are happy are my goaltenders and my top lines. I usually make it through to January before my team slumps like this... Ugh!
One thing I really need to do is to buckle down on my tactics and make it a priority. I'm going through all my scouting reports and working on the individual tactical settings for each player. I've been kind of lazy on this so far.
Morrow has picked his game back up. I wrote before about wanting "more" from him and I realized that I just wanted him to hit more. He has good size, great strength and hitting, but he lags behind my other hitters. Well I should say "hitter," because the only player that takes the body is Jamie Langenbrunner.
I'll keep my tactics for 10 games or so and see how it goes.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:01 pm
by bruins72
fz50 wrote:Ok, so in all my eagerness to get to July 1st with free agency and trading after my first season, I forgot to report my stats in the Challenge Stats Tool. I have all my screenshots taken at correct dates, but I don't know what to put in the fields for "Powerplays", "Powerplay Goals Scored", "Times Shorthanded", "Powerplay Goals Against" and "Penalties in Minutes". (I actually remember my payroll. Every other stat I can easily find in my screens).
Ofcourse my screenshots tell my Powerplay and Penalty Killing Percentage, but not how many opportunities I've had for example. With the team penalties in minutes, maybe I can add up every player on my teams PIM, if that's the way that stat work.
So, now I wonder what to do. I would hate for a stupid mistake like that to ruin this challenge, which I think is the best one this far. Great fun. Did you guys resign Langenbrunner for the 2nd season by the way?
So you've got screenshots but you don't have some of your stats to post? The screens where you'd have Powerplays, Powerplay Goals Scored, and the rest are all under Team Stats and you wouldn't normally take screenshots of those. Did you post your stats for the first 3 segments of season 1? Or did you not post any stats throughout the whole season? If you've posted the stats for the first 3 quarters of the season, we might just have you post the same Team Stats from the third quarter, so you'd lose out on any points you'd get from that. If you didn't post ANY stats from any quarter of season 1, that's going to be a lot worse. Let me know where you stand and I'll discuss it with the other mods.
We had another person in the challenge that didn't get ANY screenshots for the first season. I think everyone needs to slow down and pay attention to the challenge rules. Stop and re-read the rules again. Also, I suggest everyone keeps some kind of backup of their game. It's always good to save a backup of your last season before moving on to the next. I also have a backup that I keep of the last 20 game segment that I posted. So right now I'm on the second quarter. I've posted my stats for the first quarter. I've got a backup saved from the moment I logged those stats and then I've got my regular save that I'm using. Once I finish season 1, I'll have a backup save done at the end of June and I'll have my current save. Once I get to 20 games, I'll have the season 1 backup, the season 2 game 20 backup, and my current save. This cover me in case I run into any problems. You can always go back and delete these backups later.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:53 pm
by timmy_t
Just adding on to B72's last part:
I save the game on day one and each 20 game point like this:
20.1 Stars Day One
20.1 Game 20
20.1 Game 40
20.1 Game 60
20.1 Game 80 + Playoffs
The "20" is for Challenge 20, and the ".1" is for the first season.
I start my saves for the next season as 20.2 July 1st.
I keep the saves until I know that all of my stats are ok and the moderators don't have any issues with them.
The point is to have a system that works for you and use it. Don't rush.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:20 pm
by fz50
bruins72 wrote:fz50 wrote:Ok, so in all my eagerness to get to July 1st with free agency and trading after my first season, I forgot to report my stats in the Challenge Stats Tool. I have all my screenshots taken at correct dates, but I don't know what to put in the fields for "Powerplays", "Powerplay Goals Scored", "Times Shorthanded", "Powerplay Goals Against" and "Penalties in Minutes". (I actually remember my payroll. Every other stat I can easily find in my screens).
Ofcourse my screenshots tell my Powerplay and Penalty Killing Percentage, but not how many opportunities I've had for example. With the team penalties in minutes, maybe I can add up every player on my teams PIM, if that's the way that stat work.
So, now I wonder what to do. I would hate for a stupid mistake like that to ruin this challenge, which I think is the best one this far. Great fun. Did you guys resign Langenbrunner for the 2nd season by the way?
So you've got screenshots but you don't have some of your stats to post? The screens where you'd have Powerplays, Powerplay Goals Scored, and the rest are all under Team Stats and you wouldn't normally take screenshots of those. Did you post your stats for the first 3 segments of season 1? Or did you not post any stats throughout the whole season? If you've posted the stats for the first 3 quarters of the season, we might just have you post the same Team Stats from the third quarter, so you'd lose out on any points you'd get from that. If you didn't post ANY stats from any quarter of season 1, that's going to be a lot worse. Let me know where you stand and I'll discuss it with the other mods.
We had another person in the challenge that didn't get ANY screenshots for the first season. I think everyone needs to slow down and pay attention to the challenge rules. Stop and re-read the rules again. Also, I suggest everyone keeps some kind of backup of their game. It's always good to save a backup of your last season before moving on to the next. I also have a backup that I keep of the last 20 game segment that I posted. So right now I'm on the second quarter. I've posted my stats for the first quarter. I've got a backup saved from the moment I logged those stats and then I've got my regular save that I'm using. Once I finish season 1, I'll have a backup save done at the end of June and I'll have my current save. Once I get to 20 games, I'll have the season 1 backup, the season 2 game 20 backup, and my current save. This cover me in case I run into any problems. You can always go back and delete these backups later.
I have posted stats for the 1st 3 quarters, I'm just missing the mentioned stats from the last quarter (powerplay oportunities etc.).
EDIT: And yeah, I think I'll make a new save system.

Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:44 pm
by bruins72
Okay, mark down all of your stats so that you've got them saved. I'll get back to you on the team stats from the 3rd quarter.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:45 pm
by bruins72
Okay, so I've got a solution for you, fz50. Go to where you post your stats. Fill in all of the info that you have. You'll end up leaving those 5 team stats categories blank. When you click "Calculate" it will come back and tell you that there's a problem with your stats. On the column to the left, it will show the stats you're trying to post. It will show negative values (like -123) for each of those stats you left blank. Now write those numbers down, without the minus sign. Click "Modify" and enter those values. Now you can post them. You'll lose out on 4th quarter points for those 5 categories but at least you'll get that segment logged and you can move on to season 2.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:56 am
by dmarchuk1
fz50 wrote:So, now I wonder what to do. I would hate for a stupid mistake like that to ruin this challenge, which I think is the best one this far. Great fun. Did you guys resign Langenbrunner for the 2nd season by the way?
Signed him for 3 more years at 2.8. Forgot to check NTC but whatever, he can have it. He put in 43 G and 38 A first season. 6 pts in 7 games in 2nd and he goes down for months with fractured shin. And as soon as he did my team has been spiraling out of control. 4-9-1 and Jaime Benn just went down for 3 months
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. Hopefully Omark can change things
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:32 pm
by timmy_t
I made it to the 40 game mark and I ended up 19-18-3. I went 7-4 my last eleven games, so that's good. I'm right on the bubble to make the playoffs, but I need to win a few more games than I lose each 20 game set. Langenbrunner has been out for the last week and Sutherby still has two weeks on his three week injury. With those two missing I turned a three game win streak to a three game losing streak.
This team really needs some depth, and I'll probably go tier 3 next season. The other thing we need is a big/strong defenseman. My strongest defenseman has a 15 in strength and I have two with 11 in strength (Goligoski and Robidas). Oh yeah, all my defensemen are slow too.
I can't get Brad Richards to re-sign and it's January. I'm getting scared...

Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:10 pm
by Asher413
So I clearly am the epic fail to date in the first 20 games
Since we're losing bad in every phase of the game, I wanted to start by just seeing how you all have done with the backup goalies? I've been without Lehtonen since the first pre-season game (and hopefully will get him back in 2008...), and would love to blame him for my struggles (though I know it's much more than that)
And since I'm struggling on scoring, defense, PP, PK and goaltending, where would you suggest I start on trying to stop this spiral?

Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:19 am
by dmarchuk1
Injuries in first 25 games of S2
Benn 2 months
Langenbrunner 3 months
Richards 2 months
Goligoski 1 month
add in the fact Riberio potted exactly 0 goals through first 14 games after 0. 44 GPG last season. I might not make playoffs with the D I chose. Hell, lottery selection looking like might be best thing to happen to this season
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 11:33 am
by tinyheed
SO last night i uploaded Season 1 Q3 stats, then saved my game all good. Try and load game today, its saying file corrupted!, so obviously having to go back to beginning of Q2, can my stats be reset?
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:28 pm
by dmarchuk1
Wow, my worst season ever I think. 1-8-1 and the return of Langenbrunner is tarnished with 2 goals against 13 seconds apart in final minute of the game.

Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:29 pm
by fz50
bruins72 wrote:Okay, so I've got a solution for you, fz50. Go to where you post your stats. Fill in all of the info that you have. You'll end up leaving those 5 team stats categories blank. When you click "Calculate" it will come back and tell you that there's a problem with your stats. On the column to the left, it will show the stats you're trying to post. It will show negative values (like -123) for each of those stats you left blank. Now write those numbers down, without the minus sign. Click "Modify" and enter those values. Now you can post them. You'll lose out on 4th quarter points for those 5 categories but at least you'll get that segment logged and you can move on to season 2.
Sure, I'll do that. Thanks for finding a solution for me.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:39 pm
by timmy_t
Segment 3 of season one is in the books. I went 10-6-4, scored 86 goals (Yea!!) and gave up 86 goals (Boo!!).
My defense is bad. How bad is it? It's so bad that somehow my d-men let George Parros skate into the slot, get position on the right side of the Lehtonen, and score on a wide open net. Twice. Granted, Lehtonen was off that game; he let in six goals before I knew what happened. But I blame it all on my defense. I really really really need to fix my defense for the next season, but it stinks so bad that it might take more than one season to straighten them out. I watch my games on "Extended," so I really see when they stink. I once saw Robidas skate out of position to one of the points to try and take the puck or something. During a penalty kill. Needless to say the opposition scored on that one.
Another thing that I ended up doing was benching my 4th line halfway through the game (for about the first 3-4 games this segment). They were taking stupid penalties and their morale was always "Very Low." I felt that they were dragging my team down with their poor play. Then I started playing with 9 forwards and 8 defensemen. I went on a 10-2-1 tear until my top two lines started to get tired and we lost the last four games of the segment. (2 regulation losses and two ot/so losses)
Brad Richards rocked for the majority of the 20 games and had a 12-15 game point streak going in the middle of it. He is clearly my best player, and I finally got him to re-sign by changing his status from "Core" to "Key." He signed for something like 8 million for 3 more years.
If I can keep it together and everyone stays relatively healthy for the last 22 games I'll make the playoffs. Then it's anyone's game. The only team that I worry about in the west is Detroit. They are soooooo fast.
One last thing- I see that there are 16 people so far in the challenge, and only 5 or 6 of us are posting how everything's going. So, I'm asking everyone to give an update. That's what this thread is for.

Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:44 pm
by fz50
So, after a great first season were I was knocked out in 7 games in the 2nd playoff round, I'm fired midway through the 2nd season after being just 4 points out of a playoff berth. I guess I raised the expectations a bit too much for the 2nd season...
Anyways, I'd like to readd myself as a GM, but in the rules it says that I have to provide a screenshot that shows that I'm under the budget at the time I was fired. How am I supposed to make that screenshot? Now that I'm fired I can't see the budget I had anymore right? Any pointers here?
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:51 pm
by timmy_t
fz50 wrote:Anyways, I'd like to readd myself as a GM, but in the rules it says that I have to provide a screenshot that shows that I'm under the budget at the time I was fired. How am I supposed to make that screenshot? Now that I'm fired I can't see the budget I had anymore right? Any pointers here?
If you've been using the "Rolling Saves" option you should have one from the week that you were fired. My initial thought is that you could use that save to make your screenshots, but you might have to wait for an official ruling from Bruins72.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:06 pm
by fz50
Yeah, I'll see what he says, but my last savegame is from the last time I reported stats, and that is like 10-15 games ago.
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Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:21 pm
by dmarchuk1
For uploading stats, payroll mean total salaries or just Club salary?
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:09 pm
by timmy_t
It's the Total Annual Player Salaries.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:21 pm
by bruins72
tinyheed wrote:SO last night i uploaded Season 1 Q3 stats, then saved my game all good. Try and load game today, its saying file corrupted!, so obviously having to go back to beginning of Q2, can my stats be reset?
I just put your request into the thread for that...
http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 62#p121862
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:28 pm
by bruins72
fz50 wrote:So, after a great first season were I was knocked out in 7 games in the 2nd playoff round, I'm fired midway through the 2nd season after being just 4 points out of a playoff berth. I guess I raised the expectations a bit too much for the 2nd season...
Anyways, I'd like to readd myself as a GM, but in the rules it says that I have to provide a screenshot that shows that I'm under the budget at the time I was fired. How am I supposed to make that screenshot? Now that I'm fired I can't see the budget I had anymore right? Any pointers here?
Sure, go ahead and re-add youself.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:36 pm
by bruins72
fz50 wrote: Did you guys resign Langenbrunner for the 2nd season by the way?
Yes, I did re-sign Langerbrunner. I got him to sign a 1 year deal for $3.2M and he's got a NTC. He wanted a little less money for 3 more years but he's just too old for me to give him that long of a deal. So I upped the yearly value a bit and got him to sign a 1 year deal. I'm okay with that.
With the way this roster is, it's just impossible to let players go, it seems. I really don't have anybody "in the system" that can step into Langenbrunner's spot if I didn't re-sign him.
Re: Challenge 20: Dallas Stars (Discussion Thread)
Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:10 pm
by timmy_t
bruins72 wrote:With the way this roster is, it's just impossible to let players go, it seems. I really don't have anybody "in the system" that can step into Langenbrunner's spot if I didn't re-sign him.
I completely agree! I was thinking that in season two I can either sign/trade for Langenbrunner's replacement or try to get a 1-2 Defenseman, but probably not both.
How are the Sharks doing in everyone's game? In my game they were competitive until their GM traded Thornton, Marleau, and Clowe. Now they're a joke. They probably would have traded Heatley too but they ran out of time.
