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Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:42 pm
by Alessandro
ZsasZ wrote: The foreign rule is a bit tricky. All the russian teams seems to go by the rule of 5 foreign players while the teams from Latvia, Slovakia, Belarus and Kazakhstan have and uses a lot more foreign players then 5.
It's not tricky. Simply there is a limit of 5 foreigners for Russian teams and no limits for foreign teams. Unfortunately this is not doable in EHM :(

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:10 pm
by ZsasZ
National Hockey League

League name: National Hockey League
Number of teams: <no change> 30
No. of regular season games played: <no change> 82
Two-line pass rule: <no change> not used
Icing rule: <no change> touch
Overtime rule: <no change> 5 min 4 on 4
Shoot-out rule: <no change> best of 3
Maximum players on roster: <no change> 23
Maximum players dressed: 20 + 2
Maximum foreigners on roster: <no change> unlimeted
Maximum foreigners dressed: <no change> unlimeted


American Hockey League

League name: American Hockey League
Number of teams: 30
No. of regular season games played: 80
Two-line pass rule: not used
Icing rule: <no change> touch
Overtime rule: <no change> 5 min 4 on 4
Shoot-out rule: best of 3
Maximum players on roster: <no change>
Maximum players dressed: 20 + 2
Maximum foreigners on roster: <no change> unlimeted
Maximum foreigners dressed: <no change> unlimeted

Dont know if the max 5 veteren players (over 260 professional games played) on the starting lineup is still used.
2 conferences eastern and western, 6 divisions,
16 teams to playoff
Eastern Conference
Atlantic: (Manchester Monarchs, Portland Pirates, Providence Bruins, St. John's IceCaps, Worcester Sharks)
Northeast: (Adirondack Phantoms, Albany Devils, Bridgeport Sound Tigers, Connecticut Whale, Springfield Falcons)
East: (Binghamton Senators, Hershey Bears, Norfolk Admirals, Syracuse Crunch, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins)
Western Conference
North: (Grand Rapids Griffins, Hamilton Bulldogs, Lake Erie Monsters, Rochester Americans, Toronto Marlies)
Midwest: (Charlotte Checkers, Chicago Wolves, Milwaukee Admirals, Peoria Rivermen, Rockford IceHogs)
West: (Abbotsford Heat, Houston Aeros, Oklahoma City Barons, San Antonio Rampage, Texas Stars)

ECHL

League name: ECHL
Number of teams: 20 (San Fransisco Bulls and Columbia Inferno are set to join the league for the 2012/2013 season to make it a 22 team league)
No. of regular season games played: <no change> 72
Two-line pass rule: not used
Icing rule: touch
Overtime rule: <no change> 5 min 4 on 4
Shoot-out rule: best of 3
Maximum players on roster: 22
Maximum players dressed: 18 + 2
Maximum foreigners on roster: <no change>
Maximum foreigners dressed: <no change>

Don know if the max 4 veteren players rule is still used.

16 teams to playoff
2 conferences eastern and western 5 divisions atlantic, north, south, mountain, pacific
Eastern Conference
Atlantic: (Elmira Jackals, Reading Royals, Trenton Titans, Wheeling Nailers)
North: (Chicago Express, Cincinnati Cyclones, Kalamazoo Wings, Toledo Walleye)
South: (Florida Everblades, Greenville Road Warriors, Gwinnett Gladiators, South Carolina Stingrays)
Western Conference
Mountain: (Alaska Aces, Colorado Eagles, Idaho Steelheads, Utah Grizzlies)
Pacific: (Bakersfield Condors, Las Vegas Wranglers, Ontario Reign, Stockton Thunder)


Central Hockey League

League name: Central Hockey League (CHL)
Number of teams: 14
No. of regular season games played: not sure of this but i think its 64
Two-line pass rule: not used
Icing rule: touch
Overtime rule: 5 min 4 on 4
Shoot-out rule: best of 3
Maximum players on roster: 18
Maximum players dressed: 16 + 2
Maximum foreigners on roster: <no change>
Maximum foreigners dressed: <no change>

dont know if its 10 or 12 teams to playoff

2 conferences (turner and berry)
Turner Conference: (Bloomington Blaze, Dayton Gems, Evansville IceMen, Fort Wayne Komets, Missouri Mavericks, Quad City Mallards, Rapid City Rush)
Berry Conference: (Allen Americans, Arizona Sundogs, Laredo Bucks, Rio Grande Valley Killer Bees, Texas Brahmas, Tulsa Oilers, Wichita Thunder)

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:11 pm
by ZsasZ
Alessandro wrote:
ZsasZ wrote: The foreign rule is a bit tricky. All the russian teams seems to go by the rule of 5 foreign players while the teams from Latvia, Slovakia, Belarus and Kazakhstan have and uses a lot more foreign players then 5.
It's not tricky. Simply there is a limit of 5 foreigners for Russian teams and no limits for foreign teams. Unfortunately this is not doable in EHM :(

Haha ok, you learn something new everyday ;)

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:58 pm
by Manimal
ZsasZ wrote:National Hockey League
Maximum players dressed: 20 + 2
You cannot have 22 players dressed in the NHL. It is 18 skaters and two goalies maximum
ZsasZ wrote: American Hockey League

Shoot-out rule: best of 3
Maximum players dressed: 20 + 2
Shoot-out is best of 5
18 skaters + two goalies
ZsasZ wrote: ECHL

Number of teams: 20 (San Fransisco Bulls and Columbia Inferno are set to join the league for the 2012/2013 season to make it a 22 team league)
Shoot-out rule: best of 3
Maximum players on roster: 22
Maximum players dressed: 18 + 2
Columbia is not set to join next year. They are still paying their fee to the league but there has not been set a date for their possible return
Shoot-out is best-of 5
Maximum on roster is 20
Maximum dressed is 16 skaters

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:00 pm
by ZsasZ
Manimal wrote:
ZsasZ wrote:National Hockey League
Maximum players dressed: 20 + 2
You cannot have 22 players dressed in the NHL. It is 18 skaters and two goalies maximum
ZsasZ wrote: American Hockey League

Shoot-out rule: best of 3
Maximum players dressed: 20 + 2
Shoot-out is best of 5
18 skaters + two goalies
ZsasZ wrote: ECHL

Number of teams: 20 (San Fransisco Bulls and Columbia Inferno are set to join the league for the 2012/2013 season to make it a 22 team league)
Shoot-out rule: best of 3
Maximum players on roster: 22
Maximum players dressed: 18 + 2
Columbia is not set to join next year. They are still paying their fee to the league but there has not been set a date for their possible return
Shoot-out is best-of 5
Maximum on roster is 20
Maximum dressed is 16 skaters

sry dude, hope the rest is ok!

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:33 am
by m0fownz0r
I'm not sure if this should go here but do you guys have an idea whether the NHL league structure divisions/conferences can be changed in order with the (http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=75862) new alignment that was voted yesterday?

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:29 pm
by Leeman14
Alessandro wrote:
ZsasZ wrote: The foreign rule is a bit tricky. All the russian teams seems to go by the rule of 5 foreign players while the teams from Latvia, Slovakia, Belarus and Kazakhstan have and uses a lot more foreign players then 5.
It's not tricky. Simply there is a limit of 5 foreigners for Russian teams and no limits for foreign teams. Unfortunately this is not doable in EHM :(
Several European leagues have the "licensing" loopholes and I'm aware that several are considering going this route. There have always been foreigner limits in the Swiss and UK leagues but more and more teams (in my seemingly unending amount of research for Manimal) are getting around this rule by providing some players with immigrant licenses. I don't know exactly how they work but for one full year, the player actually does not count toward foreigner limits.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:53 pm
by archibalduk
m0fownz0r wrote:I'm not sure if this should go here but do you guys have an idea whether the NHL league structure divisions/conferences can be changed in order with the (http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=75862) new alignment that was voted yesterday?
Not at the moment I'm afraid. I know some users (e.g. Lazion) were playing around with things like schedules, etc but I don't know how far he got.

I'd love to try tweaking something like this but at the moment there are so many other things that have to take priority (i.e. helping to get the most out of the CSD Patch by updating roster histories, etc).

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:24 am
by Weissy
[-o< I hope this patch will be out soonish :**

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:22 pm
by Alessandro
Leeman14 wrote:
Alessandro wrote:
ZsasZ wrote: The foreign rule is a bit tricky. All the russian teams seems to go by the rule of 5 foreign players while the teams from Latvia, Slovakia, Belarus and Kazakhstan have and uses a lot more foreign players then 5.
It's not tricky. Simply there is a limit of 5 foreigners for Russian teams and no limits for foreign teams. Unfortunately this is not doable in EHM :(
Several European leagues have the "licensing" loopholes and I'm aware that several are considering going this route. There have always been foreigner limits in the Swiss and UK leagues but more and more teams (in my seemingly unending amount of research for Manimal) are getting around this rule by providing some players with immigrant licenses. I don't know exactly how they work but for one full year, the player actually does not count toward foreigner limits.
To reflect this you can just assign 2nd nationality Switzerland to these players. We did that for the UUDB.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:23 pm
by Alessandro
Weissy wrote:[-o< I hope this patch will be out soonish :**
You and others who are expecting it might have some pleasant surprise soon.
Don't expect anything simple like Archi's stuff though, you'll have to deal with ArtMoney and so on

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:43 pm
by archibalduk
Alessandro wrote:
Weissy wrote:[-o< I hope this patch will be out soonish :**
You and others who are expecting it might have some pleasant surprise soon.
Don't expect anything simple like Archi's stuff though, you'll have to deal with ArtMoney and so on
The Memory Patch I have been working on is the same as the CSD Patch but it has an additional function in that it opens a CSV file containing the list of changes you made in ArtMoney. So you put in the CSV file the list of changes you made in ArtMoney and so you don't have to worry about loading ArtMoney each time.

So if Alessandro makes a list of his changes that he wants to make in ArtMoney, he'll be able to load them into my Patch quite easily.

Unfortunately the Patch doesn't quite work correctly yet (the changes are made but the game crashes). I've been busy working on other things like the history updating but I will revisit the Patch and try to get it all working soon.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:36 pm
by Eagle
Don't know if someone wrote it before but here is Czech Extraliga:
League name:Czech Tipsport Extraliga
Number of teams:14 (they are discussing closing league so maybe next season will be more)
No. of regular season games played: 52
Two-line pass rule: <no change>
Icing rule: <no change>
Overtime rule: 5min (4vs4)
Shoot-out rule:3vs3
Maximum players on roster:no limit
Maximum foreigners on roster:6
Maximum foreigners dressed:6

The rules are quite same as Slovakian Tipsport Extraliga

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:13 am
by Alessandro
With the league patch you can play Czech Extraliga with 6 foreigners: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... =13&t=8739

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:37 pm
by spin
I know someone did QMJHL already.
But the divisions have changed.
Now it's a 3 division league.
I know however that this change cannot be made.
If the teams are to be divided Est-West like in the game, it should look like this:
West: Rouyn-Noranda(QC), Val-D'Or(QC), Gatineau (QC) Blainville-Boisbriand(QC), Sherbrooke(QC), Drummondville(QC), Shawinigan(QC), Victoriaville(QC), Quebec(QC), Chicoutimi(QC)
East: Rimouski(QC), Baie-Comeau(QC), Saint-John(NB), Acadie-Bathurst(NB), Moncton(NB), PEI, Halifax(NS), Cape Breton(NS)
It would make geographical sense.
Hope this helps.

BTW, I am using the Manimal 4.0 update with CSD.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:51 pm
by Deleted 25-08-19
I havent been at TBL for while... When i came here, i saw this great patch!! Lets do same trick that champman0102 forums did to CM01/02 game..

KEEPING THE GAME ALIVE.

ps. Update Finnish SM-League's structure.


Hmm.. if we get some guys who master this coding, maybe we can even create KHL? and make the game look like reeal life..

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:35 pm
by ZaZooM
Archi, does it possible to change KHL history "bronze" column to "regular season winner" column ?

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:44 pm
by archibalduk
ZaZooM wrote:Archi, does it possible to change KHL history "bronze" column to "regular season winner" column ?
You would need to load ArtMoney and search for "bronze". Then you would have to go through them one by one to find the correct one. However, you might be limited to six letters and so you'd have to somehow abbreviate it. I might also affect the "bronze" column for other leagues.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:25 pm
by Alessandro
ZaZooM wrote:Archi, does it possible to change KHL history "bronze" column to "regular season winner" column ?
It's not possible, the "bronze" column is not the RS winner, but the bronze medal winner according to the old RSL rules.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:16 pm
by BladeRunner
Hm... About Austrian EBEL league. I tested the patch yesterday, and there is a "problem": foreigners on rosters :/

The rule says that there can only be max 6 players on roster and this is killing the mojo of playing the league. Can this be changed? I know how to edit line-up rules, but i cant do roster rules.

Thats just one little thing that needs reality check (besides that players on some teams arent accurate to date).

Ty for the answer.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:42 am
by Wild94
is the patch out ?

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:26 am
by archibalduk
Wild94 wrote:is the patch out ?
This is what we have thus far: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 24#p140024

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:46 pm
by Hobbit13
Ok so after checking roster rules for all the various leagues, I stumbled on some commands that do not appear if you check the league's roster rules under the league info section. So I'm looking for you guys to help me figure out what they mean (the values for each league are in the table):

[table][tr][td]Command[/td][td]NHL[/td][td]WHL[/td][td]OHL[/td][td]QMJHL[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]0[/td][td]5[/td][td]3[/td][td]4[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]1[/td][td]1[/td][td]1[/td][td]1[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]80[/td][td]50[/td][td]50[/td][td]50[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]50[/td][td]X[/td][td]X[/td][td]X[/td][/tr][/table]

Note: These commands did not appear for any other leagues (that means all playable leagues) so it must be something specific to them.

I really don't know about the first two commands but I'm guessing the 3rd one might be something to do with number of rights of players are allowed to be held and the last command is number of players under contract allowed. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:48 pm
by Manimal
Hobbit13 wrote: I really don't know about the first two commands but I'm guessing the 3rd one might be something to do with number of rights of players are allowed to be held and the last command is number of players under contract allowed. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks.
The numbers for that makes sense.
The 3rd is called reserve lists. 80 players of which 50 under contract for the NHL. 50 man lists for the three junior teams

I know nothing of the other commands

Re: Help update the 2011/12 league rules/structures in EHM 2

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:44 pm
by Hobbit13
Thanks a lot! Another tiny piece of the puzzle understood.

It occurred to me that the first command might possibly be linked to the leagues' respective drafts and when I checked the IDs of the drafts they matched! I.e. the ID of the NHL entry draft is 0, WHL bantam draft is 5, etc. Don't know how much use it is gonna be for us though...