Re: Official NHL Season 2016-2017 Thread
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:52 pm
Blue Jackets lost their streak to the Washing Capitals losing 5-0 in the process.
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It's a disgrace to have such a calibre rookie a half year without really playing anything?! Really stupid in my eyes. A full force offensive talent playing 4th 3rd line + minutes half a season.philou21 wrote:I really hope he comes back fast too. Along the calder he has the chance to reach 40 goals too.
Puljujarvi has been sent in the AHL. IMO the Oilers should have done this faster instead of letting him play less than 10 min per game.
Yeah I think it's pretty stupid too. They should've have sent him down earlier. If they did this after 10 or 15 games maybe he could have been ready to come up now. Edmonton is being Edmonton.CJ wrote:It's a disgrace to have such a calibre rookie a half year without really playing anything?! Really stupid in my eyes. A full force offensive talent playing 4th 3rd line + minutes half a season.![]()
Puljujarvi played more than 10:00 in 18 of 28 games (he wasn't getting "top line minutes" but then his play didn't warrant it either); I'm sure the Oilers hope he's actually a "full force offensive talent" (at the NHL level)CJ wrote:It's a disgrace to have such a calibre rookie a half year without really playing anything?! Really stupid in my eyes. A full force offensive talent playing 4th 3rd line + minutes half a season.philou21 wrote:I really hope he comes back fast too. Along the calder he has the chance to reach 40 goals too.
Puljujarvi has been sent in the AHL. IMO the Oilers should have done this faster instead of letting him play less than 10 min per game.![]()
The only thing positive I've heard someone saying (McLellan one of those) is that Pulju has gotten the "feel" of playing in the NHL. C'mon...+ they lost one rookie contract year also.
The four other prospects were Matthews, Laine, Tkachuk, Chychrun from the 2016 draft.
Montreal was the only one that even "tested" a prospect. Mikhail Sergachyov (3 games).
Pulju is a "big kid". What I would call him. Dominates "everyone" his age (as he has proven). But they should have seen this much earlier! OR just played him in top lines. Average 11 minutes 3rd or so doesn't do it for a player like that. He's no McDavid; McD it didn't matter what team that guy ended up in. He'd dominate everywhere, anytime, just like Sid.nino33 wrote:Puljujarvi played more than 10:00 in 18 of 28 games (he wasn't getting "top line minutes" but then his play didn't warrant it either); I'm sure the Oilers hope he's actually a "full force offensive talent" (at the NHL level)
He came in with a lot of hype, but from what I've seen of him, he certainly isn't anywhere near as good as Matthews, Laine (or McDavid the year before); I haven't seen Tkachuk play really. Puljujarvi signed a contract like he belonged with the players you named...including potential bonuses his contract was only $350K less than Matthews/McDavid, only $150K less than Laine and almost 2 million more than Tkachuk
Maybe he would have been better off playing in Europe...or maybe it did do him some good to be with an NHL team for awhile
How often has he played against those his age?CJ wrote:Pulju is a "big kid". What I would call him. Dominates "everyone" his age (as he has proven)
Name one Finn who has gone to CHL without flopping as an adult.nino33 wrote:maybe he should have come to NA and played Major Junior last year
Sorry, I don't follow things that closely, wouldn't have a clue...A9L3E wrote:Name one Finn who has gone to CHL without flopping as an adult.nino33 wrote:maybe he should have come to NA and played Major Junior last year
Olli Määttä?A9L3E wrote:Name one Finn who has gone to CHL without flopping as an adult.nino33 wrote:maybe he should have come to NA and played Major Junior last year
Do you want me to reveal something else to you.nino33 wrote:...and now that I know he was on Laine's line in the World Juniors, I'm less impressed with his stats/history; seems to me he's definitely a "prospect" and not someone who'd actually had significant success before being drafted...again, for me being 59th in Liiga scoring (in 2015-16) is not significantly impressive
The article I linked above referenced possible language/adjustment issues...I wonder if Laine and/or Aho were any better than Puljujarvi with English? I also wonder if there other Finnish speakers on any of the three teams?CJ wrote:Sebastian Aho played center on that line. The guy who is now 3rd in points in Carolina, 7th in rookie scoring). Aho did 1 PPG in Liiga last season.nino33 wrote:...and now that I know he was on Laine's line in the World Juniors, I'm less impressed with his stats/history; seems to me he's definitely a "prospect" and not someone who'd actually had significant success before being drafted...again, for me being 59th in Liiga scoring (in 2015-16) is not significantly impressive
Laine and Aho can speak relatively good English. A LOT better than Pulju. He even needed a translator when they interviewed him in the beginning. Which I'm very surprised of... We should all understand and should be able to speak English here in Finland nowadays. I guess Pulju skipped his English in school and played hockey instead.nino33 wrote:The article I linked above referenced possible language/adjustment issues...I wonder if Laine and/or Aho were any better than Puljujarvi with English? I also wonder if there other Finnish speakers on any of the three teams?
Yeah Tikkanen is very famous here in Finland, everyone knows his "language".nino33 wrote:The Oilers in their glory days had Esa Tikkanen, who had special "language issues"From Wikipedia...
Tikkanen is famous for his Finnish-English, sometimes referred to as "Tikkanese" or "Tiki-Talk." Even members of his team often did not understand what he was saying. Wayne Gretzky once commented, "He brings something special. I don't know what it is, but if you ask him, you couldn't understand his answer." Former Edmonton Oiler coach and teammate Craig MacTavish said, "Esa talks twice as much as anybody else. That's because you can understand just half what he says."
Even fellow Finn Jari Kurri was not immune from the confusing language. During their tenure with the Oilers, Tikkanen let go with a particularly colorful pronouncement, after which another player turned to Kurri and asked, "What did he just say?" Kurri simply shook his head "I have no idea"
This is hilarious!nino33 wrote: Tikkanen is famous for his Finnish-English, sometimes referred to as "Tikkanese" or "Tiki-Talk." Even members of his team often did not understand what he was saying. Wayne Gretzky once commented, "He brings something special. I don't know what it is, but if you ask him, you couldn't understand his answer." Former Edmonton Oiler coach and teammate Craig MacTavish said, "Esa talks twice as much as anybody else. That's because you can understand just half what he says."
Even fellow Finn Jari Kurri was not immune from the confusing language. During their tenure with the Oilers, Tikkanen let go with a particularly colorful pronouncement, after which another player turned to Kurri and asked, "What did he just say?" Kurri simply shook his head "I have no idea"