EHM The Blue Line

Richie Daggers Crime wrote:1) when I check ECHL when starting a new game, it crashes

The ECHL has 0 players and 0 Staff at start-up, so there's no need to check the ECHL for anything...


Archi - This is what I was wondering about in regards to a "blank database" - will it even work? Or will it just crash? I guess we'll find out soon!

I find this hilarious!

That's good to see. Notice anything irregular during that sim? I'm going to start a long term one soon.

Richie Daggers Crime wrote:when I check ECHL when starting a new game, it crashes.

I was rushing off to work when I commented on this earlier, but now that I think about it more...this is odd.

I've never had a problem with the ECHL being checked at all (all my tests were done with all Leagues on Enhanced), and I was able to select ECHL teams and even click on grey players without ever having an issue...

I've got ECHL selected and in Enhanced. I didn't have any issues.

Strange. I'll mess around with it again tonight and give you the error message I got, if I get it again. I know nothing about editing databases, but maybe it's because I'm using a Mac?

nino33 wrote:This is what I was wondering about in regards to a "blank database" - will it even work? Or will it just crash? I guess we'll find out soon!

I was wondering the same thing. I wonder how the game will cope with no players. Will it even be able to create regens? It's gonna be a messed up hockey world, that's for sure!

Richie Daggers Crime wrote:Strange. I'll mess around with it again tonight and give you the error message I got, if I get it again. I know nothing about editing databases, but maybe it's because I'm using a Mac?

It does sound like the key difference is that you're using a Mac. Doesn't the Mac version create its own version of the DB files when you first load from that DB? It might be worth trying to delete the DB and trying again...

Ps Nino - I hope the readme was okay. I wanted to add all of testers to the credits, but I wasn't sure I knew the full list of who tested and didn't want to miss anybody out.

archibalduk wrote:Ps Nino - I hope the readme was okay. I wanted to add all of testers to the credits, but I wasn't sure I knew the full list of who tested and didn't want to miss anybody out.

Read Me was much appreciated!
Sorry I haven't replied...busy busy busy...I spent all my time editing right up to the last day (12 hours straight right before sending), and now I'm back at work!
I agree the testers deserve mention, and I do have a list somewhere in my pile of papers!...

nickflyers wrote:That's good to see. Notice anything irregular during that sim? I'm going to start a long term one soon.

I haven't checked it out too much yet as I haven't had the time. I just left it simming while I slept and did other stuff. Some real life star players that is really young from the start becomes pretty brutal attribute-wise but other than that and the crazy height and weight ratio (almost no more small players from what I could see, under 2m is smallish now) I couldn't really find anything.

visualdarkness wrote:Some real life star players that is really young from the start becomes pretty brutal attribute-wise

It was only lately that I began to better understand hidden/permanent Attributes...maybe to some extent this can be "fixed"

visualdarkness wrote: the crazy height and weight ratio

IIRC I used 98% of their adult height and 95% of their adult weight (or was it the other way around), so with some tweaking perhaps this can be improved on too

Seems like there is a typo in Henry Boucha's history:



I say, what a season!

The bummer is, this is clearly the record in the NHL and will remain that way unless something insane happens. I'm just going to use the saved game editor to fix it, but figured it was worth correcting in the next version.

LoXish wrote:Seems like there is a typo in Henry Boucha's history:



I say, what a season!

The bummer is, this is clearly the record in the NHL and will remain that way unless something insane happens. I'm just going to use the saved game editor to fix it, but figured it was worth correcting in the next version.

AAARGGGHHH!!!
At about 6PM last Sunday I discovered a problem and had to go back to a save from Saturday afternoon...this meant I had to redo many things (close to 20 hours worth of work)...this was something I had fixed!!! Looks like I didn't fix it amidst all the redone work Sunday night and Monday...what a drag

It's a typo in the player history...it says 253 instead of 0!

nino33 wrote:I've never had a problem with the ECHL being checked at all (all my tests were done with all Leagues on Enhanced), and I was able to select ECHL teams and even click on grey players without ever having an issue...

Hey, nino. I get the error every time I start a new game with the ECHL checked.

v3.0.4 usa_echl.cpp 72

Then the game closes. Again, I'm using a Mac, so that might be the reason.

Richie Daggers Crime wrote:Again, I'm using a Mac, so that might be the reason.

I suspect the problem connects to your using a Mac (so I won't be looking to "fix" this issue as I can't replicate it, and I have no Mac experience/access)

nino33 wrote:

Richie Daggers Crime wrote:Again, I'm using a Mac, so that might be the reason.

I suspect the problem connects to your using a Mac (so I won't be looking to "fix" this issue as I can't replicate it, and I have no Mac experience/access)

Cool. As you said, it doesn't affect the playing at all, since the ECHL is a non-factor. I just ticked it active out of habit. Just thought I'd bring it to the table in case it was one of those things that could cause problems down the road.

Thanks for the work.

First of all, awesome job on this project. I may need my dad to tell me about some of these old timers though.

I've been simulating entire seasons at a time just to see how it goes and I noticed at some point that Mario Lemieux was no longer in the game. I guess he quit playing hockey at an early age because he was never drafted into the CHL or NHL. I assume this must have have been a fluke thing. Another funny thing was that Mike Ramsey was drafted 1st overall directly ahead of Wayne Gretzky, Ray Bourque, and Mark Messier. Talk about the wrong choice!

AdamOates wrote:awesome job on this project

Thank you!

AdamOates wrote: I may need my dad to tell me about some of these old timers though

HaHa!
The internet has some great sites/pics, just punch in a player's name!
The HHOF has a player search on it's site that will bring up a brief biography (http://www.hhof.com/html/search.shtml)
Another site that looks useful/interesting is GreatestHockeyLegends (http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com/)
And a favourite of mine is HockeyDraftCentral (http://www.hockeydraftcentral.com/)

AdamOates wrote:I noticed at some point that Mario Lemieux was no longer in the game.

I had this occur with Lemieux in my testing too! I did do some additional editing to try and keep him in the game...I'm not sure why, but I'll for sure be looking to fix this in the future

Hi,

this is amazing, youve done a fantastic job !


what leagues do i need to have selected to have Tretiak and them available as FA's ?

Wild94 wrote:what leagues do i need to have selected to have Tretiak and them available as FA's ?

Wouldn't they be available even if you only selected NHL? If you select just NHL (or just NA Leagues) can't you always still Draft/Sign European/Russian players?

I haven't been able to find them, and anytime I try to use leagues other then the NA ones the ECHL crashes...

Wild94 wrote:I haven't been able to find them, and anytime I try to use leagues other then the NA ones the ECHL crashes...

I suspect you're database size might be to small (Preferences)...but if you're trying to play non-NA Leagues, you've missed the entire point!
The non-NA playable Leagues are 99.99% empty! The ECHL is 100% empty!

There are only a couple/few dozen historical European/Russian stars of the era in the entire database, they were meant to show up in news items and that's it...but you're the first person who's reported they can't find them...

FYI

IMO there is no need to ever select the ECHL.

In 1974 IRL there were only 41 minor pro teams - I used these teams for the AHL and the CHL

In the 1974 db the AHL and CHL both have a League Reputation of 14. The ECHL has a League Reputation of 9!
The ECHL is 100% empty! There are 0 players and 0 staff in the ECHL!
And no ECHL teams are affiliated with any NHL team!
All NHL affiliations are with AHL/CHL teams

While I always selected all Leagues when testing, and never had a problem with the ECHL (nor was one reported)...some (Mac?) users are now reporting crashes when they select the ECHL...my advice if this happens is stop selecting the ECHL! HaHa

There's really no reason to select the ECHL...


Regards

Strange....I have them selected as Standard along with most of the leagues and they have decent sized squads, but I guess that's free agents they have signed. I'm in November, so I bet that's the case.

nickflyers wrote:Strange....I have them selected as Standard along with most of the leagues and they have decent sized squads, but I guess that's free agents they have signed. I'm in November, so I bet that's the case.

They're real players? Not grey players?