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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:05 pm
by batdad
Since we can tell when guys are injured at the contract screen posting time, it is not a big issue. No worries.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:12 pm
by bruins72
Yes, as long as you don't use any of your Young UFA signings as callups. They are NOT allowed to play on your NHL roster in the year that you sign them. Your other guys can be called up to cover for injuries. If they're going to stay on your NHL roster for a significant amount of time, make sure to get screenshots of the injuries to the NHL players.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:45 pm
by Sucker Punch
Assuming you can still join, I think I'll try to take part in Challenge 12. It's my first time, and all the rules are a lot to take in and remember, so I have a couple questions first.

1. There are a lot of restrictions on the NHL GM, but is the AHL GM more or less allowed to run wild? There are rules on staff members you can fire in the minors, but seemingly none on hiring staff, and trading/signing players on AHL contracts. Is that the case? Or do the no trade/signing periods apply in the AHL as well?

2. What about signing players in Europe, when you have to wait for the transfer? If I sign a player in September '06, but he doesn't join me until summer '07, does that count as a signing for the first or second season?

3. The personnel rules only apply to the first season, right? On July 2nd of 2007, I could completely clean house if I wanted to?

I'll probably have more questions as I play, but this is all that jumps to mind before I start.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:04 pm
by batdad
You can join.

AHL deals are fine, and since the team in BRidge has no head coach, no scouts and only one assistant feel free to hire.

The guys only count as being signed when they physically join your team. So when they actually come from Europe. Why? Because that is when they are under your control.

Personell--Season 1 only.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:09 pm
by bruins72
1. Your AHL GM is mainly there to allow you to control the development of your players assigned to your AHL affiliate. By adding an AHL GM you can set your lines and tactics, which will effect your players' ice time and use of their abilities. You can also control their practice. You shouldn't need to make any player signings with your AHL GM because your NHL GM is required to supply your AHL affiliate with 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, and 12 forwards. If your AHL GM is signing other players, that would take away ice time from your players. If you need to call up one of your 20 AHL players due to a long term injury on your NHL roster, you'd just need to supply screenshots of the injury.

As for staff, you AHL team starts off with basically no staff. There is an assistant coach and he's terrible. So you'll need to hire staff. We want you to develop your own talent by using your minor league affiliate as a training grounds. So we're not going to take away the ability to hire staff that can help accomplish that.

2. Batdad got you on that one.

3. Yes, you can fire everyone on your staff on July 2nd of 2007. We just wanted to make sure people weren't replacing their entire staff right away. There are a lot of good coaches available at the start of the game. We wanted to see everyone work with what they had for a bit.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:50 pm
by Sucker Punch
batdad wrote: The guys only count as being signed when they physically join your team. So when they actually come from Europe. Why? Because that is when they are under your control.
How about Chanse Fitzpatrick as a young FA signing?

- His contract ands and he joins the team April 30th, '07. So he joins the team during the playoffs (although, due to the roster restrictions, don't know if he's actually available then). Would that be a second year or first year signing?

- His birthday is in August, so he'll be 24 when he "joins" the team in April, but 25 by training camp and the start of season 2. Is that allowed as a young FA?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:52 pm
by batdad
No.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:02 am
by hartmans
Coming up on my first "silly season" and was wondering (after wandering around the forums looking for the answer for awhile), whne it comes to offer sheets for other team unsigned RFA's, are we still restricted by the limit on draft pick trading (1 in or out)? Even if they could qualify as a young UFA? Can they qualify as a young UFA? Are offer sheets even allowed?

Sorry for the multiple questions, just trying to get clarity on the whole unsigned RFA issue.

Thanks.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:13 am
by thunderbug
I don't believe you can do offer sheets because of the draft picks. I remember getting burned by an offer sheet I did in the Chicago challenge.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:27 am
by batdad
No offer sheets. T-bug is right

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:17 pm
by hartmans
No problem. Thanks!

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:34 pm
by hartmans
Going into season 2 (Challenge 12), if I draft somebody in June 07 and sign them, but then send them back to Juniors, does that person count towards the minimum number of players that need to be "assigned" to my AHL team (2G, 6D, 12F)?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:37 pm
by batdad
No. But he does count for homegrown if he is signed.

ACtually now that I think about it...B72? Does he count to the farm team numbers?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:46 pm
by bruins72
No. Farm team players should be on your AHL affiliate's roster. They must be under contract to your NHL club but playing for your AHL affiliate. Sending them to Junior kind of defeats the purpose of the minimums we made for the farm team.

As Batdad said, the signing date does work for his homegrown qualifications.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:52 pm
by hartmans
Excellent! Thanks for the clarification.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:17 am
by Salming
got 2 questions

1. Can i sign young ufas all seson?. we are allowed to sign 2 each seson and i signed 1 only and and halfway seson 2 i found another i wanna offer contract. is that possible? he asks for 475k a year wich is lowest. its 27jan 2008.

1. when is bailey avaible to trade away?. he starts under contract and is in juniors. for other players rules are they had to be in team 1 year before. is that same for juniors signed to contracts and send back?

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:45 pm
by jbsnadb
He starts the game under contract, so you can trade him whenever you like (withing the allowable trade periods of course).

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:43 pm
by bruins72
jbsnadb is right about Bailey. Let me get back to you on your first question.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:13 pm
by jbsnadb
I'm glad I was right, because I shipped him out before the trade deadline.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:45 pm
by jbsnadb
Quickie question:

Eric Godard had the most penalty minutes of any player I had for the season at 245, but only 36 of those came in an Isles sweater.

Is he my PIM leader for recording purposes, or should it be Fritz who notched all 228 of his on New York's roster?

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:09 pm
by bruins72
Yes, individual player stats (G,A,P,PIM,+/-) should only be the what was done while with your team. Anything a player has done before they were with you, doesn't count. If you go to your 'Roster', then click 'Statistics', you'll see your team's stats. For example, in my game Mike Knuble has played 38 games so far this season. He had 11 points in 21 games with the Flyers. In the 17 games since joining the Islanders, he's had 15 points. He's got 26 points on the season but the only points that matter to the challenge are the 15 he's earned with the Islanders. Does that make sense?

Also, if you trade away your leading scorer, all of those points he scored for you don't count when you report your next set of stats. For example, in my game, Doug Weight has 74 points in 37 games. He's far and away, the league's leading point getter and the next most points on my team is Bill Guerin with 57. If I trade Weight before the 40 game reporting segment, I have to put Bill Guerin's 57 points as most on the team, even though Guerin earned 74 points for us before leaving. I've had this situation happen to me plenty in the past.

Getting back to Salming's question about Young UFAs... while it might not have been clearly stated in the rules (my fault there) the intention was that you had time to sign your Young UFAs at the start of the game and then every season after that you would have to sign them during the standard UFA signing period. We didn't want you waiting until later in the season when somebody might be released and then grabbing them cheap. So moving forward, from this point on, starting with season 2, Young UFAs must be signed during the standard challenge UFA signing period.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:17 pm
by jbsnadb
Thanks, b72!

I was pretty sure that was the way it was, but I wanted to be positive before posting my final stat set for the season.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:52 pm
by Salming
bruins72 wrote: Getting back to Salming's question about Young UFAs... while it might not have been clearly stated in the rules (my fault there) the intention was that you had time to sign your Young UFAs at the start of the game and then every season after that you would have to sign them during the standard UFA signing period. We didn't want you waiting until later in the season when somebody might be released and then grabbing them cheap. So moving forward, from this point on, starting with season 2, Young UFAs must be signed during the standard challenge UFA signing period.
ok

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:18 pm
by Sucker Punch
We can trade for unsigned prospects, right?

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:29 pm
by batdad
Yes, but you must keep them for a year. That is a new rule, for from now on.

NO ACQUIRING and then trading players, unless you have had them on your roster (or unsigned) for at least one calendar year.