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2013/14: NHL Update
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:08 am
by paul4587
I think the following link should work.
http://www.putlocker.com/file/5575695F2356F557
As I said I made these for personal use so wasn't going to go into a ton of detail but I figured I may as well share them.
Here is a quick overview of the rosters:
This is purely an NHL related update. I did a massive overhaul to all players contracted to or whose rights were owned by an NHL team. I also made some global adjustments based off the realism patch where I curbed agitation, dirtiness, increased sportsmanship and temperament and lowered consistency to get a more realistic feel for penalties and scoring. I also universally altered player weights to eliminate the bug where weight overwrites the hitting attribute.
The roster used the 5.3d TBL rosters as a base.
Change list:
Updated all NHL players and prospects – rosters accurate as at 1 October
Added some injuries to players who are expected to be out for a while. Injury types are not accurate but length of injury should be.
Updated 30-40 prospects for the 2014 NHL draft
Updated all NHL histories plus histories of 75% of players from the KHL, Czech league, AHL, ECHL, College, major juniors, SHL, NAL and FEL.
Sources used:
For contracts capgeek.com
For NHL rights – thn.com depth charts
Attributes of NHL players and some prospects rated from watching games- NHL gamecenter subscriber - watch ~12 games per week and have also watched various AHL & junior games (especially during lockout). For attributes of other nhl prospects and minor leaguers - using various scouting reports - hockey prospectus, hockeysfuture, the hockey news and whatever else I can find.
There will be errors - some ratings are subjective, some ratings are slightly lower than they should be because the game itself will progress them naturally, a lot of ratings are based off scouting reports which may be inaccurate. I figured an average scouting report is a better guide than letting the game decide player attributes randomly.
I tried to eliminate any 0 ratings for the players I rerated but in a lot of cases it was unavoidable due to lack of info
Things I could not find a fix for –point totals generated by defensemen are purely based off how good their team is offensively. You can give a guy like Karlsson all 20s in offensive categories but unless his forwards score a ton of goals he’ll struggle to hit 40 points most years. The highest scoring defensemen normally come from teams with stacked offenses such as Detroit, Pittsburgh, Chicago etc. The bug is annoying as hell but there’s nothing that can be done about it.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:22 am
by Manimal
We are working on it. It is not ready yet
Re: New Roster
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:12 pm
by Jonesy2042
Ok What is the timeline on you will be done
Re: New Roster
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:22 pm
by Manimal
Jonesy2042 wrote:Ok What is the timeline on you will be done
There is no timeline.
It will be released when it is good enough.
New Rosters?
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:50 pm
by justscoremore
Is there any chance someone is taking care of updated rosters for the 2013-2014 season? I love the new rosters and was hoping there might be some up soon!!
Thanks!
Re: New Rosters?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:46 am
by Manimal
justscoremore wrote:Is there any chance someone is taking care of updated rosters for the 2013-2014 season? I love the new rosters and was hoping there might be some up soon!!
Thanks!
I merged your tread as it was in the wrong place.
The answer is above
Re: Challenge #29 Extension
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:46 pm
by kjemaro
Does anyone know when the next databse is coming?

#impatient #excited #waiting
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Re: Challenge #29 Extension
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 9:18 pm
by Manimal
kjemaro wrote:Does anyone know when the next databse is coming?

#impatient #excited #waiting
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And another one who posted in the wrong place.
See above for answer
Re: New Roster
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:09 pm
by Peter_Doherty
This update is the one with the massive stat-updates, right? If that is so, take your time
Want to thank everyone that is working with the TBL database, have had a lot of fan with these databases for a long while

Re: New Roster
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:43 am
by Habs4life31
Awesome can't wait! Thanks a million for updating rosters for us!
Re: New Roster
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:20 pm
by golfgod04
I cant wait for the update. I tried franchise hockey manager and it still doesnt come close to Eastside hockey manager.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:36 pm
by Habs4life31
golfgod04 wrote:I cant wait for the update. I tried franchise hockey manager and it still doesnt come close to Eastside hockey manager.
I agree.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:54 pm
by umwoz
Just throwing this out there, but do you guys need any help with the new roster? I'm not super useful outside of Canada but I watch a lot of Junior hockey and follow the NHL obviously. If there's anything I can do to help let me know!
Re: New Roster
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:43 am
by IFKArboga
I could have fixed some attributes in the swedish divsion 1 but i dont know how ( not so good with computers )
Re: New Roster
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:38 pm
by jesterx7769
I wouldn't know about individuals to update outside of WHL but I am willing to do some basic data entry type stuff for whatever is needed, though I'm not sure how the work is currently divided. I work from home so have time
I also hope rookies have a SLIGHTLY higher starting skills than last time. I don't expect the rookies to keep a fantastic pace but before they were barely good enough for 4th line if you forced it. If they are on the main NHL roster right now their skills should reflect that.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:08 am
by paul4587
I have a roster for the start of the 2013-14 season I made for personal use but if enough people want it I can make it available until a better update is made if someone tells me how to upload it somewhere. It's pretty much strictly an NHL only update - all rosters are as at 1 October 2013 and I did a massive overhaul of the attributes of all players affiliated with NHL clubs. I also updated the player histories of most of the major leagues.
The only issue I have had so far with the roster is a staff contract error in mid February of every year but it does not crash the game at all, it is still completely playable.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:59 pm
by Jonesy2042
i would like the new roster because i have had to start playing fhm 2014 and i would like to play the new roster on ehm 07
Re: New Roster
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:14 pm
by 10minmail
paul4587 wrote:I have a roster for the start of the 2013-14 season I made for personal use but if enough people want it I can make it available until a better update is made if someone tells me how to upload it somewhere. It's pretty much strictly an NHL only update - all rosters are as at 1 October 2013 and I did a massive overhaul of the attributes of all players affiliated with NHL clubs. I also updated the player histories of most of the major leagues.
The only issue I have had so far with the roster is a staff contract error in mid February of every year but it does not crash the game at all, it is still completely playable.
I also was working on a roster update - then my computer restarted thanks to an update. I was at New York Rangers, and didn't save. So I quit

I wouldn't mind using your roster at all, it's even better if you made the rookies useful! If you want to send it to me. I could even make current roster changes. But I don't think anything good has changed since the first.
your best bet would be to compress the database using winrar (you probably know this) and upload the file to here:
https://mega.co.nz/
I think it'd be pretty neat to work with your new database! I'll even see what I can do about the staff contract error.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:13 pm
by paul4587
10minmail wrote:paul4587 wrote:I have a roster for the start of the 2013-14 season I made for personal use but if enough people want it I can make it available until a better update is made if someone tells me how to upload it somewhere. It's pretty much strictly an NHL only update - all rosters are as at 1 October 2013 and I did a massive overhaul of the attributes of all players affiliated with NHL clubs. I also updated the player histories of most of the major leagues.
The only issue I have had so far with the roster is a staff contract error in mid February of every year but it does not crash the game at all, it is still completely playable.
I also was working on a roster update - then my computer restarted thanks to an update. I was at New York Rangers, and didn't save. So I quit

I wouldn't mind using your roster at all, it's even better if you made the rookies useful! If you want to send it to me. I could even make current roster changes. But I don't think anything good has changed since the first.
your best bet would be to compress the database using winrar (you probably know this) and upload the file to here:
https://mega.co.nz/
I think it'd be pretty neat to work with your new database! I'll even see what I can do about the staff contract error.
Ok I'll run a few more tests and make sure there are no obvious bugs and will try and upload it over the next day or so. Yeah I made rookies useful - I re rated all NHL prospects based off various scouting reports, watching games and where they're at in their development.
I think the staff contracts error may be due to the long contracts to the likes of Weber, Keith, Suter, Parise etc but I haven't reduced their length to see if it goes away. Considering it doesn't affect the game at all I'm not overly worried.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:32 pm
by umwoz
Just curious, is it just me or did one of these db updates drastically reduce the quality of the players in the drafts? Is it the csd patch doing it?
Because I find after the first 2 or 3 drafts, there is only really a "star" first overall every 2 or 3 drafts.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:54 am
by Habs4life31
paul4587 wrote:I have a roster for the start of the 2013-14 season I made for personal use but if enough people want it I can make it available until a better update is made if someone tells me how to upload it somewhere. It's pretty much strictly an NHL only update - all rosters are as at 1 October 2013 and I did a massive overhaul of the attributes of all players affiliated with NHL clubs. I also updated the player histories of most of the major leagues.
The only issue I have had so far with the roster is a staff contract error in mid February of every year but it does not crash the game at all, it is still completely playable.
Yeah I would love to use your rosters thanks! but obviously I would switch over to TBL roster update

Re: New Roster
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:02 am
by paul4587
umwoz wrote:Just curious, is it just me or did one of these db updates drastically reduce the quality of the players in the drafts? Is it the csd patch doing it?
Because I find after the first 2 or 3 drafts, there is only really a "star" first overall every 2 or 3 drafts.
Future drafts are based on regens. So it depends on the quality of retired players.
Re: New Roster
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:19 pm
by 10minmail
paul4587 wrote:10minmail wrote:paul4587 wrote:I have a roster for the start of the 2013-14 season I made for personal use but if enough people want it I can make it available until a better update is made if someone tells me how to upload it somewhere. It's pretty much strictly an NHL only update - all rosters are as at 1 October 2013 and I did a massive overhaul of the attributes of all players affiliated with NHL clubs. I also updated the player histories of most of the major leagues.
The only issue I have had so far with the roster is a staff contract error in mid February of every year but it does not crash the game at all, it is still completely playable.
I also was working on a roster update - then my computer restarted thanks to an update. I was at New York Rangers, and didn't save. So I quit

I wouldn't mind using your roster at all, it's even better if you made the rookies useful! If you want to send it to me. I could even make current roster changes. But I don't think anything good has changed since the first.
your best bet would be to compress the database using winrar (you probably know this) and upload the file to here:
https://mega.co.nz/
I think it'd be pretty neat to work with your new database! I'll even see what I can do about the staff contract error.
Ok I'll run a few more tests and make sure there are no obvious bugs and will try and upload it over the next day or so. Yeah I made rookies useful - I re rated all NHL prospects based off various scouting reports, watching games and where they're at in their development.
I think the staff contracts error may be due to the long contracts to the likes of Weber, Keith, Suter, Parise etc but I haven't reduced their length to see if it goes away. Considering it doesn't affect the game at all I'm not overly worried.
Awesome! Dying to use your database!
Re: New Roster
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:39 am
by Habs4life31
Yeah can't wait!
Re: New Roster
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:01 pm
by Manimal
umwoz wrote:Just curious, is it just me or did one of these db updates drastically reduce the quality of the players in the drafts? Is it the csd patch doing it?
Because I find after the first 2 or 3 drafts, there is only really a "star" first overall every 2 or 3 drafts.
Yeah, we removed all retired players some time ago. We were all fed up with the too-powerful regens