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testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:52 am
by nino33
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Greetings!
The following data is compiled using TBL 8.2 at startup (using the EHM Assistant to export the data from a newly created game).
I'm looking at most Attributes now to try and provide more of a complete picture of the player & I'm looking at more refined CA levels too. Also, I'm ignoring the Faceoffs Attribute for now, allowing me to combine center/winger data for easier presentation
This information was initially posted in the Researchers Forum
I also commented in red font, and asked Riz to reply (when I was part of the researching team)
D_PLAYMAKER
| | | | KEY | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Vision | Passing | Pass Tendency | Pokecheck | Positioning | Checking | Anticipation |
|---|
| worldwide | 340/61.8 | 14.9 | 11.5 | 8.6 | 8.3 | 11.3 | 7.1 | 7.2 | 7.2 | 8.4 |
| CA 40-69 | 142/55.5 | 15.3 | 11.1 | 8.1 | 7.6 | 11.4 | 6.6 | 6.9 | 7.0 | 8.0 |
| CA 70-99 | 79/80.0 | 13.7 | 11.7 | 9.9 | 9.4 | 11.8 | 8.8 | 8.8 | 9.0 | 9.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 39/118.2 | 13.0 | 13.4 | 12.2 | 12.9 | 13.1 | 11 | 11.6 | 11.1 | 11.5 |
| CA 140-159 | 4/145.5 | 14.0 | 15.0 | 14.3 | 15.5 | 13.8 | 15.0 | 14.0 | 13.8 | 13.5 |
| CA 160-179 | 1/166.0 | 16.0 | 14.0 | 16.0 | 17.0 | 11.0 | 16.0 | 17.0 | 16.0 | 17.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL (SKATING) | IRRELEVANT | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER | #/CA average | Decisions | Wristshot | Agility | Slapshot | WorkRate | Movement | Strength | Hitting | Stickhandling |
|---|
| worldwide | 340/61.8 | 8.5 | 5.1 | 8.3 | 5.4 | 10.2 | 6.9 | 9.7 | 5.8 | 6.0 |
| CA 40-69 | 142/55.5 | 8.6 | 4.4 | 8.0 | 4.3 | 9.8 | 6.3 | 9.4 | 5.4 | 5.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 79/80.0 | 9.7 | 6.3 | 9.5 | 6.7 | 10.8 | 7.9 | 10.4 | 7.5 | 7.2 |
| CA 100-139 | 39/118.2 | 11.5 | 9.5 | 12.7 | 11.8 | 12.6 | 11.7 | 11.7 | 9.9 | 11.9 |
| CA 140-159 | 4/145.5 | 13.5 | 12.5 | 16.0 | 14.5 | 14.3 | 13.3 | 11.5 | 9.3 | 12.8 |
| CA 160-179 | 1/166.0 | 16.0 | 14.0 | 14.0 | 16.0 | 14.0 | 15.0 | 14.0 | 9.0 | 15.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | | |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER | #/CA average | Deking | Bravery | Balance | Fighting | Deflections | Acceleration | Speed | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 340/61.8 | 6.7 | 9.6 | 8.1 | 2.7 | 4.5 | 8.9 | 9.2 | 9.4 | 9.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 142/55.5 | 6.2 | 9.5 | 8.2 | 2.1 | 4.3 | 8.4 | 8.8 | 9.0 | 8.9 |
| CA 70-99 | 79/80.0 | 7.7 | 10.3 | 9.6 | 3.5 | 5.7 | 9.7 | 10.2 | 10.6 | 10.1 |
| CA 100-139 | 39/118.2 | 10.8 | 10.5 | 11.7 | 5.8 | 7.5 | 12.4 | 12.8 | 12.5 | 12.5 |
| CA 140-159 | 4/145.5 | 12.8 | 11.5 | 13.5 | 6.0 | 8.3 | 16.0 | 16.5 | 15.8 | 15.5 |
| CA 160-179 | 1/166.0 | 15.0 | 18.0 | 14.0 | 7.0 | 11.0 | 16.0 | 16.0 | 17.0 | 17.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 340/61.8 | 9.0 | 9.1 | 9.2 | 10.7 | 8.9 | 11.9 | 11.7 | 12.2 | 11.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 142/55.5 | 9.3 | 9.4 | 9.3 | 10.2 | 8.9 | 11.4 | 11.7 | 12.5 | 10.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 79/80.0 | 9.3 | 8.9 | 8.4 | 10.7 | 9.2 | 12.4 | 12.2 | 11.8 | 11.5 |
| CA 100-139 | 39/118.2 | 7.6 | 6.7 | 7.1 | 11.8 | 10.3 | 12.9 | 12.4 | 12.3 | 11.6 |
| CA 140-159 | 4/145.5 | 6.8 | 6.3 | 6.3 | 14.3 | 10.8 | 14.3 | 13.0 | 13.5 | 13.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 1/166.0 | 9.0 | 7.0 | 4.0 | 14.0 | 14.0 | 17.0 | 13.0 | 14.0 | 16.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament |
|---|
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| worldwide | 340/61.8 | 11.5 | 12.8 | 14.2 |
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| CA 40-69 | 142/55.5 | 11.7 | 12.5 | 14.6 |
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| CA 70-99 | 79/80.0 | 11.3 | 12.1 | 13.7 |
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| CA 100-139 | 39/118.2 | 11.6 | 12.5 | 12.7 |
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| CA 140-159 | 4/145.5 | 12.8 | 14.8 | 15.5 |
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| CA 160-179 | 1/166.0 | 13.0 | 14.0 | 15.0 |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:16 am
by nino33
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D_DEF
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Positioning | Checking | Pokecheck | WorkRate | Hitting | Decisions | Bravery |
|---|
| worldwide | 2193/46.0 | 7.5 | 14.7 | 8.5 | 8.5 | 7.3 | 10.5 | 7.4 | 11.2 | 11.0 |
| CA 40-69 | 822/51.9 | 7.5 | 14.9 | 9.2 | 9.2 | 7.9 | 10.5 | 8.0 | 11.4 | 11.1 |
| CA 70-99 | 258/81.8 | 8.7 | 14.9 | 10.8 | 10.8 | 9.8 | 12.0 | 9.8 | 11.5 | 12.2 |
| CA 100-139 | 121/115.4 | 9.8 | 15.4 | 13.1 | 12.7 | 12.5 | 13.5 | 11.5 | 11.0 | 12.7 |
| CA 140-159 | 9/144.2 | 10.6 | 17.7 | 16.6 | 15.3 | 15.5 | 15.2 | 13.8 | 13.8 | 14.1 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE | #/CA average | Wristshot | Slapshot | Vision | Passing | Movement | Strength | Stickhandling | Anticipation | Pass Tendency |
|---|
| worldwide | 2193/46.0 | 3.7 | 4.1 | 4.2 | 3.2 | 4.4 | 7.9 | 3.3 | 5.0 | 11.5 |
| CA 40-69 | 822/51.9 | 4.0 | 4.2 | 4.4 | 3.2 | 4.9 | 8.6 | 3.5 | 5.3 | 11.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 258/81.8 | 6.3 | 7.5 | 7.2 | 6.2 | 7.1 | 10.5 | 6.0 | 8.4 | 12.5 |
| CA 100-139 | 121/115.4 | 8.3 | 10.8 | 9.3 | 10.2 | 9.2 | 12.7 | 9.5 | 10.7 | 12.9 |
| CA 140-159 | 9/144.2 | 10.2 | 13.0 | 11.0 | 12.8 | 10.8 | 14.9 | 11.2 | 14.6 | 14.1 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE | #/CA average | Deking | Balance | Fighting | Deflections | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 2193/46.0 | 4.2 | 9.3 | 2.0 | 3.5 | 7.1 | 7.4 | 7.1 | 7.9 | 7.7 |
| CA 40-69 | 822/51.9 | 4.7 | 9.9 | 1.7 | 3.8 | 7.6 | 7.9 | 7.6 | 8.5 | 8.3 |
| CA 70-99 | 258/81.8 | 6.8 | 10.8 | 3.6 | 5.9 | 9.5 | 9.9 | 9.4 | 10.5 | 10.3 |
| CA 100-139 | 121/115.4 | 8.5 | 11.8 | 6.5 | 7.5 | 11.5 | 11.9 | 11.2 | 12.5 | 12.4 |
| CA 140-159 | 9/144.2 | 9.3 | 14.1 | 7.4 | 9.1 | 12.0 | 12.8 | 12.6 | 15.2 | 14.4 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 2193/46.0 | 9.5 | 9.1 | 9.1 | 10.2 | 8.2 | 11.7 | 11.6 | 11.9 | 11.4 |
| CA 40-69 | 822/51.9 | 9.6 | 9.0 | 9.0 | 10.1 | 8.2 | 11.5 | 11.7 | 12.0 | 11.4 |
| CA 70-99 | 258/81.8 | 9.8 | 8.6 | 8.5 | 10.6 | 9.2 | 11.4 | 11.6 | 11.9 | 11.3 |
| CA 100-139 | 121/115.4 | 9.2 | 8.6 | 8.0 | 12.1 | 9.7 | 12.9 | 11.7 | 12.1 | 12.3 |
| CA 140-159 | 9/144.2 | 6.3 | 8.2 | 8.1 | 13.5 | 11.0 | 14.2 | 13.1 | 13.2 | 12.4 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament |
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| worldwide | 2193/46.0 | 11.3 | 12.5 | 14.6 |
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| CA 40-69 | 822/51.9 | 11.0 | 13.0 | 14.8 |
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| CA 70-99 | 258/81.8 | 11.2 | 12.1 | 14.2 |
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| CA 100-139 | 121/115.4 | 12.4 | 12.1 | 14.8 |
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| CA 140-159 | 9/144.2 | 13.2 | 13.0 | 12.7 |
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| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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When looking at this data what "jumps out" at me is.....
- a database issue I think...those D with a CA of 100+ seem to me to have IMO to high an average Offensive Role (I think the average should be reduced by 1 or 2)
- it looks to me like Strength connects to much to CA and not enough to player size (seems it should probably be 1 or 2 higher on average); if Strength has been connected significantly to CA I recommend that be changed, and Strength should again connect primarily to size (with training able to increase Strength somewhat, as strength training is common in the early years of pro development)
- Fighting seems to low IMO...most defensive defensemen can "handle themselves" and are pretty tough, yet the average Fighting ratings for players with a 100+ CA are 6.5 and 7.4
- it seems Stamina and Natural Fitness now connect to CA growth too, and I think the results are less than ideal (the 70-99 CA group has around 10 for both Stamina and Natural Fitness, which seems much to low...the 100-139 CA group average12.5 for Stamina and 12.4 for Natural Fitness); it seems to me that both Stamina and Natural Fitness should start a little higher and be a little higher in every CA range
EDIT (August 7th) - the fact that there are no Good/Top defensive D and so few Average defensive D is a problem IMO....I think there should probably be hundreds of defensive D with a CA I n the 140-170 range
testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:17 am
by nino33
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D_STANDARD
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
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| DEFENSEMEN STANDARD | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Positioning | Checking | Pokecheck | Decisions | Hitting | Passing | Strength |
|---|
| worldwide | 3236/43.5 | 9.7 | 13.3 | 8.0 | 8.0 | 6.9 | 10.3 | 6.9 | 5.2 | 9.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 1098/51.6 | 10.0 | 12.4 | 8.5 | 8.5 | 7.5 | 10.5 | 7.5 | 5.8 | 9.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 373/80.7 | 11.0 | 12.7 | 10.1 | 10.0 | 9.2 | 10.6 | 9.0 | 8.6 | 10.9 |
| CA 100-139 | 152/116.1 | 12.0 | 14.0 | 12.4 | 12.0 | 11.9 | 11.1 | 11.0 | 11.9 | 12.4 |
| CA 140-159 | 23/148.2 | 13.1 | 15.8 | 15.0 | 14.8 | 15.0 | 13.2 | 12.5 | 14.7 | 14.6 |
| CA 160-179 | 7/170.9 | 16.0 | 17.9 | 16.9 | 15.9 | 16.9 | 13.9 | 12.7 | 16.7 | 16.4 |
| CA 180-200 | 1/182.0 | 17.0 | 18.0 | 16.0 | 18.0 | 17.0 | 16.0 | 4.0 | 19.0 | 12.0 |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN STANDARD | #/CA average | Wristshot | Slapshot | Vision | Anticipation | WorkRate | Bravery | Movement | Stickhandling | Pass Tendency | Deking |
|---|
| worldwide | 3236/43.5 | 3.7 | 4.0 | 4.1 | 4.0 | 8.5 | 8.6 | 4.5 | 3.4 | 11.3 | 4.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 1098/51.6 | 4.3 | 4.4 | 4.6 | 4.5 | 8.8 | 8.9 | 5.1 | 3.7 | 11.5 | 5.1 |
| CA 70-99 | 373/80.7 | 6.6 | 7.5 | 7.6 | 7.5 | 10.4 | 10.1 | 7.7 | 6.7 | 12.5 | 7.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 152/116.1 | 8.7 | 11.1 | 10.5 | 11.0 | 12.9 | 11.4 | 10.1 | 10.2 | 12.9 | 9.4 |
| CA 140-159 | 23/148.2 | 10.7 | 13.7 | 12.8 | 13.6 | 14.6 | 12.5 | 12.7 | 13.2 | 13.6 | 11.8 |
| CA 160-179 | 7/170.9 | 12.6 | 16.4 | 16.0 | 16.0 | 16.1 | 15.1 | 15.6 | 14.0 | 13.1 | 12.4 |
| CA 180-200 | 1/182.0 | 14.0 | 14.0 | 19.0 | 20.0 | 18.0 | 13.0 | 16.0 | 18.0 | 14.0 | 14.0 |
| | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
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| DEFENSEMEN STANDARD | #/CA average | Balance | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Fighting | Deflections | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 3236/43.5 | 8.9 | 7.0 | 7.3 | 7.1 | 2.1 | 3.5 | 7.8 | 7.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 1098/51.6 | 9.5 | 7.5 | 7.9 | 7.7 | 2.1 | 4.2 | 8.6 | 8.0 |
| CA 70-99 | 373/80.7 | 10.2 | 9.8 | 9.9 | 9.7 | 3.6 | 5.9 | 10.5 | 10.1 |
| CA 100-139 | 152/116.1 | 11.4 | 11.9 | 12.3 | 12.0 | 6.2 | 7.2 | 12.3 | 12.2 |
| CA 140-159 | 23/148.2 | 13.9 | 14.3 | 14.7 | 14.5 | 7.7 | 9.1 | 15.1 | 15.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 7/170.9 | 16.0 | 14.3 | 15.0 | 15.0 | 9.1 | 9.7 | 18.0 | 17.9 |
| CA 180-200 | 1/182.0 | 16.0 | 19.0 | 17.0 | 20.0 | 9.0 | 10.0 | 20.0 | 18.0 |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
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| DEFENSEMEN STANDARD | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 3236/43.5 | 9.6 | 9.3 | 9.1 | 10.0 | 7.7 | 11.8 | 11.7 | 11.9 | 11.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 1098/51.6 | 9.3 | 9.1 | 9.0 | 9.9 | 8.2 | 11.9 | 11.7 | 11.7 | 11.1 |
| CA 70-99 | 373/80.7 | 9.0 | 8.5 | 8.5 | 10.2 | 9.3 | 11.4 | 11.9 | 11.7 | 10.9 |
| CA 100-139 | 152/116.1 | 9.3 | 8.1 | 7.5 | 11.8 | 10.0 | 12.5 | 12.1 | 12.3 | 11.8 |
| CA 140-159 | 23/148.2 | 7.9 | 8.7 | 7.7 | 13.7 | 11.6 | 15.0 | 13.3 | 13.8 | 13.5 |
| CA 160-179 | 7/170.9 | 10.0 | 9.7 | 9.3 | 15.3 | 11.9 | 16.9 | 13.7 | 16.0 | 15.3 |
| CA 180-200 | 1/182.0 | 7.0 | 9.0 | 8.0 | 18.0 | 11.0 | 17.0 | 14.0 | 18.0 | 15.0 |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
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| DEFENSEMEN STANDARD | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament |
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[/tr]
| worldwide | 3236/43.5 | 11.4 | 12.9 | 14.7 |
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| CA 40-69 | 1098/51.6 | 11.4 | 12.8 | 14.7 |
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| CA 70-99 | 373/80.7 | 11.2 | 12.7 | 14.1 |
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| CA 100-139 | 152/116.1 | 11.7 | 12.4 | 14.2 |
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| CA 140-159 | 23/148.2 | 13.2 | 14.4 | 13.8 |
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| CA 160-179 | 7/170.9 | 15.0 | 15.0 | 14.1 |
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| CA 180-200 | 1/182.0 | 15.0 | 17.0 | 16.0 |
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testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:19 am
by nino33
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D_DEF_FINESSE
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL (SKATING) | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
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| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE FINESSE | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Checking | Positioning | Pokecheck | Stickhandling | Agility | Decisions | Passing |
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| worldwide | 217/45.1 | 6.0 | 15.7 | 8.8 | 8.7 | 7.6 | 5 | 8.9 | 11.0 | 5.2 |
| CA 40-69 | 96/54.3 | 6.0 | 15.4 | 9.9 | 9.8 | 8.5 | 5.7 | 9.2 | 11.6 | 5.9 |
| CA 70-99 | 25/77.2 | 7.7 | 15.3 | 10.2 | 9.6 | 9.2 | 8 | 11.5 | 10.8 | 8.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 7/113.0 | 10.4 | 14.3 | 11.7 | 12.3 | 12.0 | 10.9 | 12.3 | 10.7 | 10.4 |
| CA 140-159 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | IRRELEVANT | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
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| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE FINESSE | #/CA average | Strength | Movement | Hitting | WorkRate | Bravery | Wristshot | Slapshot | Vision | Anticipation |
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| worldwide | 217/45.1 | 6.7 | 3.2 | 4.7 | 8.4 | 8.7 | 4.0 | 4.4 | 4.6 | 4.7 |
| CA 40-69 | 96/54.3 | 7.5 | 3.4 | 5.7 | 8.8 | 8.9 | 4.6 | 4.9 | 5.1 | 5.3 |
| CA 70-99 | 25/77.2 | 8.7 | 6.3 | 6.7 | 10.2 | 10.1 | 6.9 | 7.5 | 7.3 | 7.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 7/113.0 | 12.0 | 10.7 | 10.6 | 13.7 | 10.4 | 8.6 | 10.3 | 10.3 | 9.7 |
| CA 140-159 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE FINESSE | #/CA average | Pass Tendency | Deking | Fighting | Deflections | Acceleration | Speed | Balance | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 217/45.1 | 11.3 | 4.3 | 1.7 | 2.9 | 6.9 | 7.5 | 9.7 | 7.6 | 7.2 |
| CA 40-69 | 96/54.3 | 12.1 | 4.8 | 1.5 | 3.2 | 7.4 | 8 | 10.5 | 8.2 | 7.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 25/77.2 | 12.4 | 7.4 | 3.2 | 5.6 | 9.6 | 10.8 | 11.3 | 10.6 | 9.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 7/113.0 | 12.9 | 10.0 | 5.3 | 7.3 | 11.4 | 11.4 | 10.1 | 13.1 | 11.6 |
| CA 140-159 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
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| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE FINESSE | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
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| worldwide | 217/45.1 | 4.7 | 8.7 | 9.5 | 10.4 | 7.8 | 11.7 | 11.5 | 12.1 | 10.7 |
| CA 40-69 | 96/54.3 | 4.3 | 8.6 | 9.6 | 10.4 | 8.3 | 11.4 | 11.1 | 12.1 | 11.0 |
| CA 70-99 | 25/77.2 | 6.4 | 7.7 | 8.7 | 10.9 | 8.6 | 12.0 | 11.3 | 11.4 | 10.9 |
| CA 100-139 | 7/113.0 | 8.4 | 9.3 | 8.6 | 14.3 | 9.7 | 12.7 | 11.1 | 13.1 | 11.3 |
| CA 140-159 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
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| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE FINESSE | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament |
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| worldwide | 217/45.1 | 11.3 | 12.5 | 14.7 |
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| CA 40-69 | 96/54.3 | 11.4 | 12.8 | 14.7 |
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| CA 70-99 | 25/77.2 | 11.4 | 12.3 | 14.0 |
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| CA 100-139 | 7/113.0 | 12.3 | 10.3 | 13.0 |
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| CA 140-159 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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I'm trying to get more of the data compiled/posted, and so I'm not reviewing things as much/commenting as much (though I hope to come back and take a closer look, and I hope others will take a close look/comment too).....one thing I did notice with d_def_finesse that I think is likely a database issue is the CA range of 100-139 seems to have to low a Defensive Role average IMO
testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:20 am
by nino33
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D_DEF_PHYSICAL
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL (SKATING) | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Strength | Hitting | Pokecheck | Positioning | Balance | Checking | WorkRate |
|---|
| worldwide | 5333/40.3 | 8.0 | 14.1 | 11.7 | 7.9 | 6.7 | 6.8 | 10.2 | 6.9 | 9.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 1857/51.3 | 8.3 | 14.1 | 12.6 | 8.7 | 7.3 | 7.5 | 10.6 | 7.6 | 9.5 |
| CA 70-99 | 505/80.1 | 8.8 | 15.2 | 13.4 | 10.6 | 0.4 | 9.6 | 11.6 | 9.8 | 11.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 153/115.5 | 8.9 | 16.1 | 14.8 | 13.4 | 12.8 | 12.9 | 12.8 | 12.8 | 13.3 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/145.9 | 12.0 | 15.7 | 16.1 | 14.7 | 14.9 | 14.7 | 13.7 | 14.7 | 14.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Stickhandling | Passing | Wristshot | Movement | Decisions | Bravery | Slapshot | Vision | Anticipation |
|---|
| worldwide | 5333/40.3 | 2.7 | 3.1 | 3.8 | 3.9 | 8.8 | 8.2 | 4.5 | 4.6 | 4.7 |
| CA 40-69 | 1857/51.3 | 3.2 | 3.6 | 4.6 | 4.8 | 9.1 | 8.9 | 5.4 | 5.5 | 5.5 |
| CA 70-99 | 505/80.1 | 5.6 | 6.4 | 6.4 | 6.7 | 9.6 | 10.5 | 8.3 | 7.5 | 7.9 |
| CA 100-139 | 153/115.5 | 8.3 | 9.5 | 8.0 | 8.3 | 10.3 | 12.4 | 11.0 | 8.9 | 10.8 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/145.9 | 12.0 | 13.0 | 8.7 | 11.7 | 11.7 | 13.6 | 13.1 | 10.7 | 12.9 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Pass Tendency | Deking | Fighting | Deflections | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 5333/40.3 | 11.8 | 3.9 | 2.3 | 3.6 | 6.6 | 7.0 | 6.7 | 7.9 | 7.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 1857/51.3 | 12.3 | 4.8 | 2.6 | 4.4 | 7.3 | 7.7 | 7.4 | 8.9 | 8.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 505/80.1 | 12.6 | 6.4 | 4.1 | 5.9 | 9.3 | 9.8 | 9.0 | 10.8 | 10.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 153/115.5 | 13.1 | 7.3 | 8.2 | 7.5 | 10.7 | 11.2 | 10.4 | 12.4 | 12.2 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/145.9 | 12.9 | 10.3 | 9.3 | 8.0 | 12.3 | 12.9 | 12.9 | 15.3 | 15.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 5333/40.3 | 9.9 | 9.2 | 9.2 | 10.0 | 7.2 | 11.7 | 11.6 | 11.8 | 11.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 1857/51.3 | 9.9 | 9.0 | 9.0 | 10.0 | 7.7 | 11.7 | 11.6 | 11.9 | 11.3 |
| CA 70-99 | 505/80.1 | 10.4 | 9.1 | 9.1 | 10.3 | 8.4 | 11.7 | 11.7 | 11.6 | 11.3 |
| CA 100-139 | 153/115.5 | 11.2 | 10.3 | 9.9 | 11.7 | 10.0 | 12.7 | 12.1 | 12.3 | 12.0 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/145.9 | 10.0 | 10.1 | 10.0 | 12.7 | 10.4 | 14.3 | 12.0 | 13.6 | 11.9 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN DEFENSIVE PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament |
|---|
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| worldwide | 5333/40.3 | 11.3 | 12.5 | 14.3 |
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| CA 40-69 | 1857/51.3 | 11.3 | 12.6 | 14.1 |
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| CA 70-99 | 505/80.1 | 11.3 | 11.3 | 13.6 |
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| CA 100-139 | 153/115.5 | 11.7 | 10.4 | 13.9 |
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| CA 140-159 | 7/145.9 | 13.0 | 13.0 | 16.1 |
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| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - |
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A couple things caught my attention...
- there are 5,333 physical defensive defensemen! compared to 217 finesse defensive defensemen, and 2,193 "regular" defensive defensemen (and 3,236 standard defensemen and 340 playmaker defensemen)
- database issue...IMO some of the physical defensive defensemen in the 140-159 might have to high an Offensive Role and/or be the wrong Player Role
NOTE - regarding the Player Role total numbers (and the opportunity to get an idea of what % of forwards/defensemen get different Player Roles), this test was with all Leagues on enhanced and a Full Database with only Add Players to National Teams checked
testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:22 am
by nino33
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D_RUGGED
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN RUGGED | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Hitting | Strength | Checking | Fighting | Positioning | Bravery | WorkRate |
|---|
| worldwide | 1059/34.4 | 7.7 | 14.9 | 8.7 | 11.0 | 7.3 | 5.8 | 7.0 | 11.3 | 9.7 |
| CA 40-69 | 422/52.0 | 7.7 | 15.0 | 9.6 | 11.8 | 8.0 | 6.0 | 7.7 | 11.5 | 10.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 131/80.0 | 8.3 | 15.0 | 11.1 | 13.0 | 9.7 | 7.0 | 9.5 | 12.3 | 11.8 |
| CA 100-139 | 28/115.0 | 8.5 | 15.8 | 13.6 | 15.3 | 13.3 | 9.5 | 12.9 | 13.3 | 13.9 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/149.0 | 10.5 | 18.5 | 16.5 | 13.5 | 15.0 | 9.5 | 16.5 | 17.0 | 14.5 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN RUGGED | #/CA average | Wristshot | Slapshot | Vision | Stickhandling | Pokecheck | Decisions | Passing | Movement | Anticipation |
|---|
| worldwide | 1059/34.4 | 3.4 | 4.0 | 4.0 | 2.2 | 5.0 | 8.8 | 2.9 | 4.3 | 4.9 |
| CA 40-69 | 422/52.0 | 3.6 | 4.2 | 4.2 | 2.1 | 5.5 | 9.5 | 2.9 | 4.6 | 5.3 |
| CA 70-99 | 131/80.0 | 5.8 | 7.3 | 6.8 | 4.6 | 8.1 | 9.5 | 6.1 | 6.8 | 7.8 |
| CA 100-139 | 28/115.0 | 7.6 | 10.8 | 8.0 | 8.1 | 11.8 | 9.9 | 9.2 | 8.4 | 10.9 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/149.0 | 9.0 | 12.5 | 11.0 | 9.5 | 15.5 | 12.5 | 14.0 | 14.5 | 15.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN RUGGED | #/CA average | Pass Tendency | Deking | Deflections | Balance | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 1059/34.4 | 12.1 | 4.1 | 3.2 | 9.1 | 6.8 | 7.3 | 7.0 | 8.8 | 8.0 |
| CA 40-69 | 422/52.0 | 12.1 | 4.6 | 3.3 | 9.7 | 7.3 | 7.8 | 7.6 | 8.9 | 8.6 |
| CA 70-99 | 131/80.0 | 12.3 | 6.5 | 5.4 | 10.5 | 8.8 | 9.2 | 8.8 | 10.4 | 10.5 |
| CA 100-139 | 28/115.0 | 12.9 | 7.3 | 7.4 | 12.5 | 10.0 | 10.5 | 9.4 | 13 | 12.4 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/149.0 | 15.5 | 10.0 | 10.0 | 15.0 | 11.5 | 13.0 | 12.5 | 14.0 | 14.5 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN RUGGED | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 1059/34.4 | 12.5 | 10.8 | 10.6 | 10.2 | 7.6 | 12.0 | 11.5 | 11.9 | 11.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 422/52.0 | 12.0 | 10.7 | 10.4 | 10.2 | 8.0 | 11.9 | 11.4 | 12.1 | 11.3 |
| CA 70-99 | 131/80.0 | 12.2 | 10.2 | 10.0 | 10.1 | 8.7 | 11.7 | 11.3 | 11.7 | 11.5 |
| CA 100-139 | 28/115.0 | 11.5 | 11.3 | 10.5 | 12.1 | 9.9 | 13.1 | 12.3 | 12.1 | 11.6 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/149.0 | 8.5 | 11.0 | 13.0 | 14.0 | 12.5 | 14.0 | 14.0 | 13.5 | 13.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | | | |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN RUGGED | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament | Flair | Important Matches | Injury Prone |
|---|
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| worldwide | 1059/34.4 | 11.1 | 11.7 | 13.5 | 7.1 | 9.6 | 8.4 |
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| CA 40-69 | 422/52.0 | 11.1 | 11.7 | 13.6 | 7.0 | 9.6 | 8.3 |
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| CA 70-99 | 131/80.0 | 10.9 | 12.1 | 13.0 | 6.9 | 9.3 | 8.3 |
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| CA 100-139 | 28/115.0 | 12.1 | 10.9 | 14.6 | 7.4 | 11.0 | 9.2 |
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| CA 140-159 | 2/149.0 | 9.5 | 12.5 | 14.0 | 10.0 | 12.0 | 10.0 |
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| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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What stood out to be while compiling the data...
- I'm surprised Aggression is not an Essential Attribute, and Temperament seems much to high
- I think Slapshot should be Regular and not Non-Essential
- database issue....Niklas Kronwall (158 CA) seems very "off" IMO - a 15 for Offensive Role and 14 for Flair (IMO about double what it should be in both cases) and a Rugged Player Role (for a guy averaging 0.62 PIM per game and 0 fights in 738 NHL games) but a 19 in Temperament
testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:52 am
by nino33
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D_PLAYMAKER_FINESSE
| | | | KEY | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER FINESSE | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Vision | Passing | Pass Tendency | Stickhandling | Anticipation | Wristshot | Movement |
|---|
| worldwide | 156/56.4 | 14.8 | 11.6 | 8.0 | 7.9 | 11.8 | 6.8 | 6.6 | 7.4 | 6.5 |
| CA 40-69 | 57/55.5 | 14.4 | 11.8 | 7.8 | 7.4 | 11.5 | 6.3 | 6.4 | 7.6 | 6.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 35/81.5 | 13.6 | 11.3 | 9.4 | 9.9 | 12.9 | 8.8 | 8.1 | 8.5 | 8.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 12/114.4 | 13.0 | 12.8 | 12.2 | 12.6 | 13.2 | 11.8 | 11.4 | 9.2 | 11.3 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/149.3 | 12.0 | 16.7 | 12.0 | 15.0 | 14.3 | 15.3 | 15.7 | 11.0 | 13.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | IRRELEVANT | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER FINESSE | #/CA average | Deking | Strength | Bravery | Hitting | Positioning | Checking | Pokecheck | WorkRate | Decisions |
|---|
| worldwide | 156/56.4 | 6.3 | 8.1 | 9.0 | 4.6 | 6.7 | 6.6 | 6.5 | 10.1 | 7.8 |
| CA 40-69 | 57/55.5 | 6.1 | 8.0 | 9.1 | 4.5 | 6.9 | 6.9 | 6.7 | 9.6 | 8.4 |
| CA 70-99 | 35/81.5 | 8.1 | 8.0 | 10.2 | 6.9 | 8.9 | 8.7 | 8.8 | 10.7 | 10.2 |
| CA 100-139 | 12/114.4 | 10.8 | 9.9 | 10.5 | 9.2 | 11.1 | 11.0 | 11.1 | 13.1 | 11.3 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/149.3 | 11.7 | 12.7 | 11.3 | 9.0 | 16.7 | 15.7 | 14.7 | 15.0 | 15.3 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | | |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER FINESSE | #/CA average | Slapshot | Fighting | Deflections | Balance | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 156/56.4 | 6.5 | 2.4 | 4.3 | 7.6 | 8.7 | 9.1 | 8.9 | 9.1 | 8.8 |
| CA 40-69 | 57/55.5 | 6.1 | 2.2 | 4.5 | 8.6 | 8.2 | 8.9 | 8.6 | 9.3 | 8.7 |
| CA 70-99 | 35/81.5 | 8.5 | 2.8 | 5.9 | 10.1 | 10.3 | 10.5 | 9.9 | 10.9 | 10.6 |
| CA 100-139 | 12/114.4 | 11.6 | 6.2 | 7.3 | 10.7 | 12.8 | 13.6 | 13.3 | 12.2 | 11.6 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/149.3 | 12.7 | 6.0 | 10.0 | 13.3 | 14.0 | 15.0 | 14.3 | 15.7 | 16.3 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER FINESSE | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 156/56.4 | 3.8 | 8.6 | 9.6 | 10.3 | 8.9 | 12.4 | 11.8 | 11.7 | 11.9 |
| CA 40-69 | 57/55.5 | 3.3 | 9.0 | 9.9 | 10.4 | 8.6 | 12.7 | 11.6 | 11.1 | 11.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 35/81.5 | 5.3 | 8.3 | 9.1 | 9.6 | 9.9 | 10.6 | 11.1 | 12.5 | 11.2 |
| CA 100-139 | 12/114.4 | 8.1 | 7.2 | 8.4 | 10.9 | 10.3 | 12.8 | 12.2 | 10.2 | 11.4 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/149.3 | 5.7 | 5.3 | 6.3 | 16.0 | 12.3 | 15.3 | 13.7 | 14.0 | 14.7 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | | | |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER FINESSE | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament | Flair | Important Matches | Injury Prone |
|---|
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| worldwide | 156/56.4 | 12.0 | 12.7 | 14.3 | 9.0 | 10.3 | 8.8 |
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| CA 40-69 | 57/55.5 | 12.2 | 11.9 | 14.1 | 8.5 | 10.4 | 8.7 |
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| CA 70-99 | 35/81.5 | 11.9 | 12.6 | 14.3 | 8.7 | 10.4 | 8.9 |
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| CA 100-139 | 12/114.4 | 11.0 | 10.9 | 12.1 | 10.4 | 10.8 | 7.8 |
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| CA 140-159 | 3/149.3 | 13.7 | 14.3 | 13.7 | 12.7 | 13.7 | 7.3 |
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| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:48 am
by nino33
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D_PLAYMAKER_PHYSICAL
| | | | KEY | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Vision | Strength | Pass Tendency | Passing | Anticipation | Hitting | Movement |
|---|
| worldwide | 149/45.2 | 14.8 | 11.4 | 7.2 | 10.3 | 12.2 | 6.7 | 5.6 | 6.0 | 5.4 |
| CA 40-69 | 50/53.5 | 14.9 | 11.6 | 7.7 | 10.7 | 12.7 | 7.0 | 6.3 | 7.0 | 5.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 23/81.6 | 12.3 | 12.5 | 9.7 | 11.8 | 13.0 | 9.0 | 8.0 | 9.4 | 7.7 |
| CA 100-139 | 6/115.7 | 11.5 | 14.2 | 10.3 | 13.0 | 14.0 | 12.8 | 9.8 | 12.7 | 10.5 |
| CA 140-159 | 1/140.0 | 11.0 | 15.0 | 11.0 | 15.0 | 12.0 | 15.0 | 11.0 | 16.0 | 13.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Deflections | Positioning | Checking | Deking | Pokecheck | WorkRate | Decisions | Bravery | Wristshot |
|---|
| worldwide | 149/45.2 | 3.6 | 5.9 | 6.0 | 5.3 | 6.2 | 9.2 | 6.8 | 9.3 | 4.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 50/53.5 | 3.9 | 7.0 | 7.0 | 5.8 | 7.2 | 9.1 | 7.7 | 9.2 | 4.5 |
| CA 70-99 | 23/81.6 | 6.0 | 9.0 | 10.0 | 7.8 | 9.6 | 10.2 | 10.5 | 10.4 | 6.1 |
| CA 100-139 | 6/115.7 | 7.2 | 11.5 | 12.2 | 8.7 | 10.8 | 12.3 | 11.0 | 11.3 | 7.7 |
| CA 140-159 | 1/140.0 | 10.0 | 14.0 | 15.0 | 11.0 | 14.0 | 14.0 | 13.0 | 18.0 | 11.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | | |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Slapshot | Stickhandling | Fighting | Balance | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 149/45.2 | 3.9 | 4.2 | 2.3 | 6.8 | 8.0 | 7.9 | 7.2 | 8.3 | 8.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 50/53.5 | 4.3 | 4.7 | 2.0 | 8.2 | 8.2 | 8.3 | 7.5 | 9.7 | 8.4 |
| CA 70-99 | 23/81.6 | 6.2 | 6.7 | 3.8 | 11.2 | 9.9 | 9.9 | 9.3 | 9.8 | 11.0 |
| CA 100-139 | 6/115.7 | 10.3 | 10.7 | 8.0 | 9.2 | 12.3 | 12.5 | 12.7 | 11.7 | 11.8 |
| CA 140-159 | 1/140.0 | 15.0 | 11.0 | 8.0 | 10.0 | 13.0 | 14.0 | 12.0 | 14.0 | 13.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 149/45.2 | 9.3 | 8.9 | 9.3 | 10.7 | 8.2 | 11.8 | 11.7 | 12.5 | 11.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 50/53.5 | 8.6 | 7.7 | 9.1 | 11.0 | 8.6 | 11.5 | 10.6 | 12.3 | 11.1 |
| CA 70-99 | 23/81.6 | 10.0 | 9.2 | 9.0 | 10.8 | 9.4 | 11.0 | 11.5 | 13.3 | 10.8 |
| CA 100-139 | 6/115.7 | 10.7 | 9.5 | 8.3 | 12.5 | 10.2 | 13.0 | 11.8 | 11.8 | 11.3 |
| CA 140-159 | 1/140.0 | 5.0 | 8.0 | 7.0 | 16.0 | 11.0 | 15.0 | 15.0 | 12.0 | 12.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | | | |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN PLAYMAKER PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament | Flair | Important Matches | Injury Prone |
|---|
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| worldwide | 149/45.2 | 10.9 | 11.5 | 14.0 | 8.6 | 9.5 | 9.4 |
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| CA 40-69 | 50/53.5 | 10.9 | 10.7 | 13.5 | 8.3 | 9.4 | 10 |
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| CA 70-99 | 23/81.6 | 10.6 | 11.1 | 13.5 | 7.9 | 10.6 | 9.5 |
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| CA 100-139 | 6/115.7 | 10.5 | 10.0 | 9.5 | 10.3 | 10.5 | 8.5 |
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| CA 140-159 | 1/140.0 | 11.0 | 12.0 | 12.0 | 11.0 | 13.0 | 5.0 |
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| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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A few things stood out while compiling the data...
- I don't understand why Deflections is Essential for a defensemen, and think there are a number of better options
- IMO Positioning and Checking should be Regular and not Non-Essential
- Again Natural Fitness stands out as low
- Temperament seems high to me for those with a CA of 100 and less (for a "Physical" player)
testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:34 am
by nino33
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D_POINTMAN
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Slapshot | Passing | Stickhandling | Vision | Positioning | Wristshot | Pokecheck |
|---|
| worldwide | 247/61.4 | 15.3 | 11.6 | 8.8 | 8.2 | 7.2 | 8.4 | 7.0 | 7.7 | 7.0 |
| CA 40-69 | 67/53.5 | 15.3 | 11.3 | 8.2 | 7.2 | 6.1 | 7.9 | 6.4 | 7.6 | 6.6 |
| CA 70-99 | 57/82.3 | 14.4 | 12.1 | 10.0 | 9.4 | 8.4 | 9.5 | 8.9 | 8.6 | 8.5 |
| CA 100-139 | 36/114.8 | 14.4 | 12.3 | 13.4 | 12.3 | 11.6 | 11.7 | 11.4 | 9.8 | 11.0 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/147.4 | 15.6 | 14.3 | 15.0 | 16.0 | 14.7 | 15.0 | 13.6 | 12.4 | 14.7 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/161.0 | 15.5 | 14.5 | 15.0 | 17.0 | 16.0 | 15.5 | 14.0 | 14.5 | 15.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | IRRELEVANT | IRRELEVANT | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN | #/CA average | Strength | Checking | Hitting | Pass Tendency | WorkRate | Decisions | Bravery | Movement | Anticipation |
|---|
| worldwide | 247/61.4 | 9.9 | 5.5 | 5.2 | 10.9 | 10.2 | 7.7 | 9.0 | 6.9 | 6.8 |
| CA 40-69 | 67/53.5 | 10.2 | 4.7 | 4.5 | 10.6 | 8.9 | 7.7 | 8.9 | 6.1 | 6.4 |
| CA 70-99 | 57/82.3 | 10.4 | 7.4 | 7.2 | 11.6 | 11.3 | 9.7 | 10.6 | 8.2 | 8.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 36/114.8 | 12.2 | 10.9 | 10.0 | 12.2 | 12.4 | 10.8 | 10.5 | 11.0 | 10.3 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/147.4 | 12.7 | 13.1 | 10.7 | 12.9 | 14.7 | 13.0 | 12.3 | 14.1 | 13.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/161.0 | 15.5 | 14.0 | 12.0 | 12.0 | 16.0 | 13.5 | 12.5 | 16.0 | 11.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | | |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN | #/CA average | Deking | Fighting | Delections | Balance | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 247/61.4 | 6.6 | 2.9 | 4.6 | 7.7 | 9 | 9.3 | 8.8 | 9.4 | 9.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 67/53.5 | 6.0 | 2.0 | 4.2 | 8.1 | 8.4 | 9.0 | 8.3 | 9.5 | 8.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 57/82.3 | 7.9 | 3.6 | 5.8 | 9.6 | 10.1 | 10.3 | 9.8 | 10.6 | 10.3 |
| CA 100-139 | 36/114.8 | 10.1 | 6.4 | 7.5 | 11.1 | 11.7 | 12.0 | 11.6 | 11.7 | 11.6 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/147.4 | 12.4 | 6.4 | 8.9 | 13.3 | 14.6 | 14.6 | 15.1 | 15.1 | 14.4 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/161.0 | 13.0 | 10.5 | 11.0 | 15.0 | 15.5 | 15.0 | 15.5 | 16.0 | 16.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 247/61.4 | 5.0 | 9.2 | 8.8 | 10.7 | 8.9 | 11.8 | 11.3 | 12.4 | 11.2 |
| CA 40-69 | 67/53.5 | 4.1 | 8.9 | 9.1 | 10.3 | 8.0 | 11.4 | 11.0 | 12.4 | 11.3 |
| CA 70-99 | 57/82.3 | 5.9 | 8.9 | 8.5 | 11.1 | 9.8 | 10.6 | 11.6 | 11.5 | 10.7 |
| CA 100-139 | 36/114.8 | 8.8 | 8.4 | 8.5 | 12.5 | 9.6 | 13.3 | 11.8 | 12.2 | 12.0 |
| CA 140-159 | 7/147.4 | 5.7 | 7.3 | 7.0 | 13.6 | 10.9 | 14.3 | 13.3 | 12.9 | 13.3 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/161.0 | 7.5 | 7.5 | 7.0 | 12.5 | 14.5 | 15.5 | 13.0 | 16.0 | 13.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | | | |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament | Flair | Important Matches | Injury Prone |
|---|
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| worldwide | 247/61.4 | 11.5 | 12.3 | 14.0 | 9.4 | 10.0 | 8.9 |
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| CA 40-69 | 67/53.5 | 11.1 | 12.2 | 14.1 | 8.3 | 9.5 | 8.5 |
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| CA 70-99 | 57/82.3 | 10.9 | 11.5 | 13.7 | 8.8 | 9.3 | 7.9 |
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| CA 100-139 | 36/114.8 | 11.7 | 12.0 | 13.5 | 10.3 | 10.6 | 8.0 |
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| CA 140-159 | 7/147.4 | 13.3 | 13.3 | 14.1 | 14.1 | 12.4 | 11.0 |
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| CA 160-179 | 2/161.0 | 14.5 | 14.0 | 14.0 | 15.0 | 13.0 | 7.0 |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
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A couple things stood out while compiling the data...
- IMO Checking should maybe be Regular (for any defensemen, Positioning/Checking should probably never be Non-Essential)
- It seems odd to me that Passing is a Key Attribute (especially with Passing Tendency an Irrelevant Attribute)
testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:33 am
by nino33
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D_POINTMAN_FINESSE
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN FINESSE | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Passing | Wristshot | Pokecheck | Positioning | Anticipation | Slapshot | Stickhandling |
|---|
| worldwide | 108/41.2 | 16.5 | 11.3 | 7.1 | 6.8 | 5.2 | 4.9 | 7.0 | 7.4 | 5.9 |
| CA 40-69 | 13/54.4 | 17.1 | 11.2 | 7.0 | 7.8 | 6.5 | 6.4 | 7.5 | 7.5 | 6.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 11/83.3 | 15.7 | 10.9 | 9.8 | 9.1 | 7.9 | 7.6 | 9.2 | 11.1 | 8.7 |
| CA 100-139 | 10/121.7 | 14.9 | 12.9 | 13.5 | 9.2 | 11.5 | 11.0 | 10.5 | 13.7 | 13.2 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/144.7 | 16.3 | 14.0 | 16.0 | 12.3 | 13.7 | 14.3 | 12.0 | 13.7 | 16.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | IRRELEVANT | IRRELEVANT | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN FINESSE | #/CA average | Bravery | Strength | Hitting | Pass Tendency | Checking | WorkRate | Decisions | Vision | Movement |
|---|
| worldwide | 108/41.2 | 7.2 | 7.0 | 3.5 | 10.2 | 4.1 | 9.5 | 6.1 | 5.8 | 5.7 |
| CA 40-69 | 13/54.4 | 9.0 | 5.5 | 5.2 | 10.1 | 5.0 | 10.6 | 9.2 | 5.9 | 6.0 |
| CA 70-99 | 11/83.3 | 9.6 | 10.1 | 7.7 | 11.3 | 7.9 | 11.0 | 9.6 | 9.0 | 9.2 |
| CA 100-139 | 10/121.7 | 9.8 | 10.3 | 9.3 | 12.5 | 11.7 | 13.0 | 10.7 | 13.3 | 12.2 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/144.7 | 13.3 | 9.0 | 10.3 | 14.0 | 12.7 | 14.7 | 13.3 | 14.3 | 15.3 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | | |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN FINESSE | #/CA average | Deking | Fighting | Deflections | Balance | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 108/41.2 | 5.5 | 1.9 | 3.3 | 5.6 | 7.9 | 8.1 | 8.4 | 7.9 | 7.9 |
| CA 40-69 | 13/54.4 | 6.0 | 2.0 | 4.2 | 8.3 | 7.8 | 8.0 | 8.5 | 9.5 | 8.8 |
| CA 70-99 | 11/83.3 | 8.5 | 3.4 | 6.2 | 9.4 | 10.3 | 11.5 | 10.1 | 11.5 | 10.8 |
| CA 100-139 | 10/121.7 | 11.5 | 5.4 | 8.2 | 10.5 | 13.5 | 13.6 | 13.9 | 11.0 | 11.2 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/144.7 | 14.0 | 3.3 | 8.3 | 13.0 | 16.3 | 15.0 | 17.3 | 15.3 | 14.7 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN FINESSE | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 108/41.2 | 3.3 | 9.0 | 9.1 | 10.5 | 8.7 | 12.4 | 11.7 | 12.0 | 11.4 |
| CA 40-69 | 13/54.4 | 2.8 | 8.8 | 11.3 | 10.9 | 10.4 | 11.9 | 10.5 | 12.8 | 11.1 |
| CA 70-99 | 11/83.3 | 5.5 | 8.9 | 9.0 | 11.0 | 8.9 | 11.6 | 12.9 | 10.5 | 11.0 |
| CA 100-139 | 10/121.7 | 6.5 | 7.4 | 7.3 | 12.0 | 10.3 | 14.0 | 13.8 | 12.3 | 10.8 |
| CA 140-159 | 3/144.7 | 6.0 | 3.3 | 5.7 | 14.3 | 11.0 | 14.7 | 14.0 | 13.7 | 12.7 |
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | | | |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN FINESSE | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament | Flair | Important Matches | Injury Prone |
|---|
[/tr]
| worldwide | 108/41.2 | 10.7 | 12.6 | 15.1 | 10.1 | 9.7 | 9.4 |
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| CA 40-69 | 13/54.4 | 11.2 | 13.4 | 14.6 | 9.2 | 9.6 | 9.8 |
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| CA 70-99 | 11/83.3 | 9.6 | 12.5 | 16.8 | 9.8 | 10.9 | 8.2 |
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| CA 100-139 | 10/121.7 | 11.2 | 12.7 | 13.8 | 12.3 | 10.1 | 5.6 |
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| CA 140-159 | 3/144.7 | 13.3 | 14.7 | 15.7 | 15.0 | 11.7 | 7.7 |
[/tr]
| CA 160-179 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
[/tr]
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
[/tr]
Again it seems odd to me that Passing is a Key Attribute with Passing Tendency an Irrelevant Attribute
testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:50 am
by nino33
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D_POINTMAN_PHYSICAL
| | | | KEY | KEY | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL | ESSENTIAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Off Role | Def Role | Slapshot | Strength | Bravery | Positioning | Checking | Hitting | Passing |
|---|
| worldwide | 238/35.0 | 13.7 | 10.1 | 6.3 | 10.8 | 10.9 | 4.6 | 4.7 | 4.7 | 5.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 42/52.5 | 14.8 | 10.2 | 7.9 | 11.4 | 10.9 | 6.1 | 6.3 | 6.0 | 6.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 22/79.1 | 12.2 | 13.1 | 9.5 | 12.8 | 10.8 | 9.7 | 9.6 | 9.8 | 8.4 |
| CA 100-139 | 11/114.0 | 13.5 | 13.7 | 13.3 | 14.4 | 11.5 | 11.1 | 11.1 | 11.5 | 11.4 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/147.0 | 10.5 | 18.0 | 15.5 | 12.5 | 14.5 | 15.0 | 14.5 | 11.0 | 15.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/160.0 | 13.5 | 19.5 | 17.5 | 18.5 | 14.5 | 15.5 | 14.5 | 14.0 | 14.5 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | NON-ESSENTIAL | NON-ESSENTIAL | IRRELEVANT | IRRELEVANT | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Wristshot | Vision | Pokecheck | Pass Tendency | WorkRate | Decisions | Movement | Stickhandling | Anticipation |
|---|
| worldwide | 238/35.0 | 4.1 | 4.3 | 3.2 | 7.5 | 9.8 | 5.5 | 5.0 | 3.8 | 5.1 |
| CA 40-69 | 42/52.5 | 4.9 | 4.9 | 4.1 | 9.0 | 10.4 | 7.4 | 6.3 | 5.0 | 6.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 22/79.1 | 6.0 | 7.6 | 6.7 | 11.9 | 10.0 | 10.8 | 7.5 | 6.1 | 8.0 |
| CA 100-139 | 11/114.0 | 10.0 | 10.2 | 10.2 | 10.2 | 12.8 | 12.1 | 10.7 | 9.9 | 11.1 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/147.0 | 10.5 | 14.0 | 13.5 | 12.5 | 15.5 | 11.0 | 13.0 | 12.5 | 14.0 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/160.0 | 10.5 | 15.5 | 16.5 | 13.0 | 15.5 | 12.0 | 13.0 | 11.0 | 15.0 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | REGULAR | REGULAR | REGULAR | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | SKATING | | |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Deking | Fighting | Deflections | Balance | Acceleration | Speed | Agility | Stamina | Natural Fitness |
|---|
| worldwide | 238/35.0 | 4.8 | 1.9 | 3.9 | 5.4 | 7.5 | 7.4 | 7.5 | 7.8 | 7.3 |
| CA 40-69 | 42/52.5 | 6.1 | 2.4 | 4.8 | 7.2 | 8.4 | 8.3 | 8.7 | 8.7 | 8.2 |
| CA 70-99 | 22/79.1 | 7.5 | 3.7 | 6.2 | 10.8 | 9.0 | 9.4 | 9.8 | 10.6 | 9.6 |
| CA 100-139 | 11/114.0 | 9.5 | 5.5 | 7.5 | 11.6 | 12.6 | 12.6 | 11.9 | 13.0 | 13.2 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/147.0 | 10.5 | 8.0 | 8.5 | 12.5 | 12.5 | 13.5 | 13.5 | 16.5 | 15.5 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/160.0 | 9.5 | 11.0 | 11.0 | 16.0 | 11.0 | 11.0 | 11.0 | 14.5 | 13.5 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | | | | | | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL |
|---|
| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Aggression | Dirtiness | Agitation | Consistency | Versatility | Determination | Adaptability | Ambition | Pressure |
|---|
| worldwide | 238/35.0 | 9.8 | 9.7 | 9.3 | 10.2 | 8.7 | 11.9 | 12.3 | 12.0 | 11.4 |
| CA 40-69 | 42/52.5 | 9.8 | 10 | 8.3 | 9.4 | 9.4 | 12.5 | 12.5 | 12.2 | 12.4 |
| CA 70-99 | 22/79.1 | 11.3 | 9.4 | 9.1 | 9.6 | 9.0 | 12.0 | 12.0 | 14.1 | 11.7 |
| CA 100-139 | 11/114.0 | 11.9 | 10.3 | 8.2 | 12.0 | 9.5 | 13.0 | 13.9 | 13.0 | 12.2 |
| CA 140-159 | 2/147.0 | 7.5 | 12.0 | 12.0 | 14.0 | 12.0 | 13.0 | 14.0 | 13.0 | 12.5 |
| CA 160-179 | 2/160.0 | 9.5 | 9.5 | 11.5 | 15.5 | 12.0 | 15.0 | 13.0 | 14.0 | 13.5 |
| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| | MENTAL | MENTAL | MENTAL | | | |
|---|
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| DEFENSEMEN POINTMAN PHYSICAL | #/CA average | Professionalism | Sportsmanship | Temperament | Flair | Important Matches | Injury Prone |
|---|
[/tr]
| worldwide | 238/35.0 | 11.2 | 12.3 | 14.1 | 8.5 | 9.5 | 9.2 |
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| CA 40-69 | 42/52.5 | 10.1 | 12.5 | 15.1 | 8.2 | 9.8 | 8.5 |
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| CA 70-99 | 22/79.1 | 12.4 | 12.4 | 13.4 | 8.4 | 9.7 | 9.9 |
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| CA 100-139 | 11/114.0 | 12.7 | 12.8 | 13.5 | 9.7 | 9.8 | 7.5 |
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| CA 140-159 | 2/147.0 | 13.5 | 12.0 | 11.5 | 10.0 | 13.0 | 7.5 |
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| CA 160-179 | 2/160.0 | 14.0 | 11.5 | 9.5 | 12.0 | 13.5 | 7.0 |
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| CA 180-200 | 0/- | - | - | - | - | - | - |
[/tr]
Along with it seeming odd to me that Passing is a Key Attribute with Passing Tendency an Irrelevant Attribute, IMO Pokecheck shouldn't be Irrelevant for any type of defensemen
Re: testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:41 am
by riz_si
nino33 wrote:When looking at this data what "jumps out" at me is.....
[*]it looks to me like Strength connects to much to CA and not enough to player size (seems it should probably be 1 or 2 higher on average); if Strength has been connected significantly to CA I recommend that be changed, and Strength should again connect primarily to size (with training able to increase Strength somewhat, as strength training is common in the early years of pro development)
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I've adjusted the generation and progression of Strength in 1.4 so that it is more connected to the player weight than before.
Re: testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:45 am
by riz_si
nino33 wrote:D_RUGGED
What stood out to be while compiling the data...
- I'm surprised Aggression is not an Essential Attribute, and Temperament seems much to high
- I think Slapshot should be Regular and not Non-Essential
D-Rugged now has key attributes: Hitting, Def Role, Aggression (there was a generic issue with all the tendencies not using the role adjustments correctly)
Switched Deking into Non-Essentials instead of Slapshot.
Re: testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:48 am
by riz_si
nino33 wrote:D_PLAYMAKER_PHYSICAL
A few things stood out while compiling the data...
- I don't understand why Deflections is Essential for a defensemen, and think there are a number of better options
- IMO Positioning and Checking should be Regular and not Non-Essential
Deflections is not an Essential here, must have been a misprint in a list of key attributes earlier somewhere. Key attributes are only: Vision, Passing, Offensive Role and Pass Tendency.
Re: testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:53 am
by riz_si
nino33 wrote:D_POINTMAN
A couple things stood out while compiling the data...
- IMO Checking should maybe be Regular (for any defensemen, Positioning/Checking should probably never be Non-Essential)
- It seems odd to me that Passing is a Key Attribute (especially with Passing Tendency an Irrelevant Attribute)
Switched Checking to be Regular and replaced it with Deking for Pointmen.
Pointman is expected not only to just shoot (even if he has a tendency to shoot more) but also to distribute the puck, hence Passing as a Key.
Re: testing data - Defensemen (Player Roles & Attributes)
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:35 am
by Filip Croatia
riz_si wrote:nino33 wrote:D_POINTMAN
A couple things stood out while compiling the data...
- IMO Checking should maybe be Regular (for any defensemen, Positioning/Checking should probably never be Non-Essential)
- It seems odd to me that Passing is a Key Attribute (especially with Passing Tendency an Irrelevant Attribute)
Switched Checking to be Regular and replaced it with Deking for Pointmen.
Pointman is expected not only to just shoot (even if he has a tendency to shoot more) but also to distribute the puck, hence Passing as a Key.
Just want to say that I am glad to see that DD in v1.3 are recognized for good games. In one game Rasmus Rissanen (with Jokerit) got 9 rating although no points
