EHM The Blue Line

I want to know when it going to be the next roster update for EHM 2007 with the trades of the deadline

Thank
Monette

Is there any estimated day when you guys can launch Roster update for season 15-16 ?

Papale wrote:Is there any estimated day when you guys can launch Roster update for season 15-16 ?

No.
We will first make a final release of 2014-15 rosters.
With the game not starting in 2015, there is no rush yet for 15-16 rosters

I see. Yes I understand that.

Thanks for that quick answer!

What Iv'e said before is all have to do is edit Schedule to delete 2014-15 Games if we can when final 2014-15 comes out hope soon. I have one coming out but no Stats for 2014-15,might not have all Personal changes,Afflications changes,all Draft Picks from 2015 on Teams. Chicago's is Top Prospects 2015 Team.

MGSPORTS wrote:What Iv'e said before is all have to do is edit Schedule to delete 2014-15 Games if we can

There is currently no ability to edit the schedule, and nobody's working on it, so the answer to "if we can" is "we can't"

Just to clarify: We will not be releasing a 2015/16 roster update until the beginning of the 2015/16 season and no earlier. How soon we release it after the start of the season depends entirely on how many researchers contribute to the DB and how long it takes them to get their work done. As I think most/all users know, we all do this in our spare time in between our jobs/studies and living our lives - so it's hard to say when a DB will be released. It's just a case of it'll be released as soon as we're happy that it is sufficiently up to date and it has undergone some basic testing to check for crashes, etc. If you take a look at the Readme file which accompanies the TBL Rosters you'll see there's a changelist which shows when our roster updates have been released over the past 4 or 5 years (in fact we have been running roster updates for roughly 8 years now).

Frankly I have no idea what MGSports is referring to. We do not have the means to edit schedules, etc and I'm not sure how this would have a bearing on us being in a position to release the next roster update (as said above, it depends entirely on the number of volunteers that help and how quickly we all get things done).

I'm going to lock this thread because I think we've explained as far as we can what the position is with release dates - and I think the red box at the top of the forum summarises it pretty well too.

I was just wondering if there is a schedule on the TBL roster updates or how often they are updated roughly as I like to play this game but I've got zero interest in playing with randomly generated names and as changes occur in this off-season I find too much is missing to start new seasons without the up-to-date rosters. I have tried updating it myself but the process is daunting and extremely time consuming for someone to undertake if there's an update coming right around the corner or otherwise just in general. Will I have to wait until christmas to play with an updated roster that starts the season in October 2015, and find that it too is out of date by that time?

I'm really trying not to sound demanding but as someone new to this game title and the previous titles I really was expecting to see these rosters shipped with the game. When I found the entire game full of randomly generated names I was quite disappointed, the fun for me comes from playing out a fantasy NHL GM, using up to date rosters. Is it safe to expect at least one start of season update each year here?

spumantii wrote:I was just wondering if there is a schedule on the TBL roster updates or how often they are updated roughly

No, there is most definitely not a schedule! HaHa
It's 100% volunteer work, and the only way to be 100% sure to reduce the time is to help out

But while there's not a schedule, TBL databases have been put out yearly (and then updated) for quite awhile, so you can look at the history of the rosters to get an idea of release dates/how often http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=77

spumantii wrote:I'm really trying not to sound demanding but as someone new to this game title and the previous titles I really was expecting to see these rosters shipped with the game.

Really? For an early access game, at a price way below half of a typical/similar game?
Did you read the SI explanation about not putting all the money into obtaining licensing immediately? http://community.sigames.com/showthread ... rly-Access
And by what you're describing in terms of updated rosters, you're not looking for SI to just get the licensing but you want ongoing roster updates too?

Maybe it's just me, but I'm an avid EHM editor and I've been working on a "dead game" for 5 years and I'm just so happy it's been resurrected, and I just want the gameplay bugs/issues fixed, and then AI and editability improvements, and then UI improvements, and then wish list items, and then pay for licensing/researchers (just my "priorities" view; also based on it seems to be a niche game and pretty much only Riz working on it, so I'm trying to be reasonable/realistic with my expectations/hopes HaHa)

spumantii wrote: Is it safe to expect at least one start of season update each year here?

Hmmm....I suspect you'll be satisfied

spumantii wrote: When I found the entire game full of randomly generated names I was quite disappointed, the fun for me comes from playing out a fantasy NHL GM, using up to date rosters.

I just realized that maybe you don't understand you're not stuck with random generations...

The most recent database is up-to-date worldwide as of March 2015 (it was released in July) http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... hp?t=14591
You import the database into EHM:EA http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/wiki/inde ... nto_EHM:EA

Often this is a helpful thread too (where to put the EHM07 database you download from this website/TBL so you can import it http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/wiki/inde ... ion_Folder

And then there's a TON of "add-ons" like team/league logos, ice logos, player and background pictures and more http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=75
Here's the wiki for what's available/where it goes http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/wiki/inde ... rly_Access


You will soon be that NHL GM that you want to be!

P.S. Currently the game starts in 2014, 2015 is not an option yet, but will be around the start of the upcoming NHL season

Thanks for the info, I know that what I asked could sound demanding. I know it's an early access game, but for argument's sake it's a shell without the 'real names' from your rosters included, like a car without an engine, though I mean no offense the TBL rosters are for me the heart of the experience.

I wasn't sure how many people there were working on this, I currently use the TBL rosters from 2014, and I've made a few play-throughs as the Canucks, but as you probably know some significant changes were made- and my obsessive compulsion won't let me stop at having simply made the Canucks changes, and then how far down the rabbit hole do you go? I gave rights to about 2.5 rounds of the 2015 draft before I lost my nerve to continue... I resigned to wait for the next TBL roster, having put the game aside since I think I've played 2014 about 8 times with various and some hilarious outcomes.

Just as a side note I made the finals twice both against the Lightning, having had an equal number of playoff misses, the team would either storm out of the gates playing .750 hockey and stay there all year long or play at around .500 and sink as the season wore on. I observed the regular season success seemed to be heavily dependent on line tactics though maybe I'm wrong. Henrik Sedin never managed to get past 72 points although his linemates were scoring explosively. Ryan Miller has injuries in about half of my play throughs. I'll admit I haven't given it another run since player roles were added and I bet that would make a big difference. I could never figure out if or how practices worked, but I understand it's not a finished feature.

spumantii wrote:but for argument's sake it's a shell without the 'real names'

But if the other option is dead, than a shell is better

spumantii wrote:I'll admit I haven't given it another run since player roles were added and I bet that would make a big difference

And a lot more than Player Roles were added, check out the changelist!


CHANGELIST:
•Rosters and transactions updated as of mid-March 2015 for a wide variety of leagues included, but not limited to, the leagues listed below.
•EHM:EA Player Roles added for 7,270 skaters
•Updated Pass Tendency ratings for over 17,000 skaters
•National Hockey League:
- Added Player Roles for all contracted players
•Ontario Hockey League:
- Updated Current Ability, Potential Ability and Player Roles
- Added top draftees and prospects
•Quebec Major Junior Hockey League:
- Updated Current Ability, Potential Ability and Player Roles
- Added draftees
•Western Hockey League:
- Updated Current Ability, Potential Ability and Player Roles
- Added draftees and missing players and non-players
•NCAA:
- Re-organised teams into the correct conferences
- Updated rosters for most Division 1 teams
- Added missing players and non-players
- Updated top players’ ratings and Player Roles
- Added Player Roles
•Czech Republic:
- Updated team info and affiliations
- Updated player ratings and Player Roles
- Added missing players and non-players
•Finland:
- Updated team info and affiliations
- Updated player ratings and Player Roles
- Added missing players and non-players
•German DEL:
- Updated team info and affiliations
- Updated player ratings and Player Roles
- Added missing players and non-players
•Great Britain:
- Updated team info, names and colours (EIHL & EPIHL)
- Updated Current Ability, Potential Ability, Player Roles and positions (EIHL & EPIHL)
- Updated certain key attributes (EPIHL)
- Added missing players (EIHL & EPIHL) and non-players (EIHL)
- Made a start adding competition history for teams (EIHL & EPIHL)
- Miscellaneous fixes, such as corrected dates of birth, names, heights/weights, positions and jersey numbers
- Added Hull Pirates (and Manchester Storm) as inactive teams in readiness for the v8.0 roster update
•Norway:
- Updated player transactions
•Russia:
- Updated team info and affiliations
- Updated player ratings and Player Roles
- Added missing players and non-players
- Added player career history for a number of players
•Slovakia:
- Updated team info and affiliations
- Updated player ratings and Player Roles
- Added missing players and non-players
•Sweden:
- Updated Current Ability, Potential Ability and Player Roles for many SHL and junior players
•Switzerland:
- Updated player ratings and Player Roles
- Added missing players
•Updated numerous non-playable leagues including:
- Federal Hockey League
- Quebec Junior Hockey League
- Quebec Midget AAA
- Quebec Midget Espoirs
- Australian Ice Hockey League
- Belarus Hockey League
- Croatian League
- Kazakh Championship
- Polish Leagues
•Updated leagues, teams and rosters for many non-traditional hockey countries
•Updated team colours for many teams
•Retired significant numbers of retired players
•Created significant numbers of new players
•Added 2013/14 competition history for many leagues and national tournaments

Also, no offense, but if you're so obsessed with everything being in the right place, then maybe this is not your type of a game. Things will get all messed up, and that's the whole point. One Sedin in LA, another goes to New York, Ovechkin moves to Detroit, Crosby wants to play in Toronto, St. Louis finally signs with St. Louis... There's no stopping it!

There's quite a large crew of volunteers working on the rosters and regular updates do appear, although not aiming at any specific deadlines. As for the imperfections of the game: it's still in Early Access, and a lot has changed since the first version. We're getting there, slowly, but surely.

I think you misunderstood me- I'm not obsessed with KEEPING things in the right place, I just want to START with them in the right place. I will make my own changes to that, because this is a simulation, and as a simulation junkie I prefer to start with reality and go from there. Why on earth would I (or you) go through the trouble of making such an intricate setup if you don't think players should want things to be 'in the right place'? That's ironic as hell.

Did you think it was a good idea to suggest this game isn't for me, after I stated I've played through the current rosters 8 times as a simulation enthusiast? who do you think this game is intended to be for, the casual gamer? I didn't mean to offend you but it sounds a bit like your corn flakes have pee in them. I'm not insulting your game indeed I would not have come this far if I thought this game 'wasn't for me' but perhaps you're right after all.

I actually thought it was you with the negativity (and now being gross)

You are the one who said you had to play with random players (a complete falsehood), and suggested you'd have to wait until Christmas for updated rosters (another complete falsehood), and with no knowledge of the history of the game/development think it'd be good to spend money on licensing/researchers (another falsehood...you do realize they did what you suggest last time and the result was the game ceased development 6 months after release as it determined to be financially not viable?)

I don't understand your negativity and need to push your view given your concern is completely addressed by the volunteers here at TBL (i.e. no need for what you're talking about, the concerns you noted don't actually exist)

spumantii wrote:who do you think this game is intended to be for, the casual gamer?

I kinda thought you were a casual gamer to be honest (in my experience simulations usually take some reading time investment first, and it didn't seem you did so)

Looking to start a new career with the flames but if i New roster update is on its way i would want to wait. Any hint on when new roster drops?

I'm also on hold waiting ... hoping ... dreaming!

There is no point releasing an update if the game doesn't start in 2015...

Manimal wrote:There is no point releasing an update if the game doesn't start in 2015...

oh there's no way to change the date? Hope they patch that asap. Still waiting for online play aswell, hope it come soon.

YES SI is doing that.

SI is updating rosters for the 2015/16 season? I didn't think they could do that.

Is TBL planning to release updated rosters for the upcoming season?

Fifabing wrote:SI is updating rosters for the 2015/16 season? I didn't think they could do that.

He meant the start year.

SI updating start date, after it comes out TBL will release rosters. Exactly when depends on number of volunteers researching and the ability TBL volunteers have (time) to get things in the 2015-16 rosters done correctly.

Hello, do you already know, when will be 8.1 version with players and team history? Thank you!