EHM The Blue Line

matbur wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:56 am One of the most frustrating aspects of the game for me is the game speed if you run more than a few leagues. I know this is dependant on your laptop/PC but I am able to play FM2018 with far more leagues than EHM.

Anything more than the NHL, AHL, ECHL and the CHL leagues makes the game really slow for me. I'd really like to be able to run a load of European leagues and playing across Europe, but it's just not possible with the game speed.

Out, of interest, what league leagues do you run?

PS Liking the new site upgrade btw.

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:43 pm I had this answer typed out on mobile, but it didn't end up posting right

I play with the default rosters, and with a full database (my detail level is on quick sim). But man, this game simming day-to-day is painful. My laptop from 2013/2014 just seems to lock up every time. I get jealous reading other posters simming past 2050/2060 when I'm still in the 2030s. EHM 07 runs quicker than this.

I've been debating on getting a new computer for a while, but i'm not sure if even that could help.

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:43 pm I had this answer typed out on mobile, but it didn't end up posting right

I play with the default rosters, and with a full database (my detail level is on quick sim). But man, this game simming day-to-day is painful. My laptop from 2013/2014 just seems to lock up every time. I get jealous reading other posters simming past 2050/2060 when I'm still in the 2030s. EHM 07 runs quicker than this.

I've been debating on getting a new computer for a while, but i'm not sure if even that could help.

archibalduk wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:08 pm

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:43 pm I had this answer typed out on mobile, but it didn't end up posting right

I play with the default rosters, and with a full database (my detail level is on quick sim). But man, this game simming day-to-day is painful. My laptop from 2013/2014 just seems to lock up every time. I get jealous reading other posters simming past 2050/2060 when I'm still in the 2030s. EHM 07 runs quicker than this.

I've been debating on getting a new computer for a while, but i'm not sure if even that could help.

What specs are you running it on? I have to admit I didn't notice any change in sim speed between EHM 2007 to EHM 1 but I know a couple of people have mentioned the same issue.

Rigafan wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:25 pm

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:43 pm I had this answer typed out on mobile, but it didn't end up posting right

I play with the default rosters, and with a full database (my detail level is on quick sim). But man, this game simming day-to-day is painful. My laptop from 2013/2014 just seems to lock up every time. I get jealous reading other posters simming past 2050/2060 when I'm still in the 2030s. EHM 07 runs quicker than this.

I've been debating on getting a new computer for a while, but i'm not sure if even that could help.

I have a decent PC. More than capable for EHM (Bought PC in Jan 18) and it still runs so darn slow.

EHM07 is still the better game its just a shame its so outdated

Maybe is we ever see the next update for EHM 1 then we'll get some improvments

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:31 pmI have an 'old' laptop from 2014/2015, and a workstation from 2012 that I have as a backup. EHM07 sims quicker and doesn't lock up simming day-to-day as EHM1 does.

I'm using the default 'out-of-the-box' rosters that the game came with, a Full database that includes extra national team and junior players. So ultimately the maximum roster size you can come up with.

archibalduk wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:57 pm

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:31 pmI have an 'old' laptop from 2014/2015, and a workstation from 2012 that I have as a backup. EHM07 sims quicker and doesn't lock up simming day-to-day as EHM1 does.

I'm using the default 'out-of-the-box' rosters that the game came with, a Full database that includes extra national team and junior players. So ultimately the maximum roster size you can come up with.

It's hard to say without knowing the specs for comparison, but it is worth noting that having the extra players will increase the size of the DB substantially in comparison with the EHM 2007 DB. This might, at least in part, be responsible for the difference in speed. Adding the extra national team and junior players on a full DB with all leagues selected increases the number of players from 54,000 to 70,000 (so a ~30% increase).

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:19 pmI just have the NHL selected, no other leagues.

**edit**

Like I said before, I don’t know what the game does in the background with all of the extra players. I also have to detail level pressed to ‘none’ but it doesn’t seem to affect anything

archibalduk wrote: Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:55 am

Smirnov2Chistov wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:19 pmI just have the NHL selected, no other leagues.

**edit**

Like I said before, I don’t know what the game does in the background with all of the extra players. I also have to detail level pressed to ‘none’ but it doesn’t seem to affect anything

With the Full DB setting, it's pretty much the same regardless of which leagues you choose. This is because the Full DB setting loads all players and non-players from the DB whereas the smaller DB settings will not load the lower reputation persons from inactive leagues/nations. With just the NHL loaded, a Full DB setting has 52,000 players/non-players and the extra national team and junior players adds 14,000 players/non-players, bringing this up to 66,000 (so a ~27% increase). Note that these examples are using the current TBL Rosters and the sizes will vary by DB.

The number of players/non-players loaded and the sim detail settings play a significant role in sim speeds. Running an extra 27-30% DB size will slow things down and I would expect this would likely account for the difference in sim speeds between EHM 2007 and EHM 1. Try running the NHL with a Full DB without the extra national team and junior settings and see how that compares against EHM 2007. If it is still noticeably slower than EHM 2007 then would be fair to say EHM 1 is slower.

As I say, I've no idea what spec your machine is, but I do know CPU and hard drive play a big part in performance. This is possibly going a bit OT, but I have played EHM 2007 on four different laptops and have found a significant performance increase when going from one CPU to another. Even when I upgraded from a Core i7 2630QM (2.9 GHz max) to my current Core i7 7700HQ (3.9 GHz max) there was a very noticeable improvement. A few years back I replaced by spindle hard drive with a solid state drive on my 2630QM laptop and this also noticeably improved performance. It's a bit crazy that a decade old game would benefit from even recent CPUs but I guess the volume of data it processes means the higher the CPU clock the better (it'd be great if one day EHM were capable of multi-core/thread processing like FM as that would make a big difference to sim times).

celislanders1 wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:04 pm Yes it does run really slow for me too and new computer. Which leagues would you suggest running playing Elite League ??