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[2018-2019] Monette's roster (aka 4 Miles Rock Rosters)

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:06 pm
by Monette
Last update (24/06/18)
<LINK REMOVED>

Details :
-It's a start of season roster
-Contains 2018 NHL Draft
-Contains all players incoming into UFA's and RFA's

[2018-2019] Monette's roster (aka 4 Miles Rock Rosters)

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:10 pm
by archibalduk
I have removed the link in the first post because, to put it bluntly, this database is not welcome on The Blue Line. This database was originally posted some time ago and was simply a copy of one of the Project NHL databases by BKarchitect under the database name "4 Miles Rock". The description purported to pass the database off as original content and asked people for PayPal donations for your "work". Both BKarchitect and I posted several comments on your Steam Workshop page stating that this is just a copy of the Project NHL database and that it was grossly unfair to be asking people to give you monetary donations for someone else's work. You simply deleted every such comment and kept the PayPal donation link running. You only took the link down or gave credit to BK when I posted a discussion thread on your Steam Workshop page which you couldn't delete.

I see that your present database is a copy of the TBL Rosters which it appears you have customised. I know this because if I open up your database in the Editor and go to the Data -> Database Header, TBL is listed as the database author. It would have been nice to have been given a credit but, to be honest, that's not the reason why I'm deleting the link to your database (it's because of the above).

I have always considered the EHM community to be an open, sharing community where people can build off other peoples' work and improve it, etc in a similar manner to open source. For instance, we have never objected to the rosters by BKarchitect and xECK29x (or anybody else) which use the TBL Rosters as a basis for this reason. If the TBL Rosters can be used as a basis of somebody else's project then that's great and of benefit to the community. However, I feel what you did is so wrong. To pass off somebody else's work as your own, invite monetary donations and then delete the author's attempts at warning others about this goes completely against the ethos of the community we have built here.

I am in two minds to ban you, but perhaps making people aware of the background and removing the download link makes enough of a point.

If anybody is wondering what this is all about, here's the background: HERE, HERE and HERE.

[2018-2019] Monette's roster (aka 4 Miles Rock Rosters)

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:48 pm
by xECK29x
I flagged it on Steam and put a link to this thread on his comments. I'm also checking for my tells to see if he stole my stuff also, if so I'm removing all my stuff from Steam.

[2018-2019] Monette's roster (aka 4 Miles Rock Rosters)

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:10 pm
by Monette
If you are not happy, just removed your stuff, i had made all the changes

And the thank to BK was made on Steam so..