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Ethics in changing player attributes?

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:44 am
by Sucker Punch
Do you guys ever edit player attribute yourself?

There are certain player's whose attributes I disagree with. Specifically, Chris Neil (almost everywhere), Jason Spezza's faceoffs, Antoine Vermette's speed, Volchenkov's hitting/defensive play, Brian Lee's potential, Emery's overall ability. If you guys feel that way, do you feel comfortable editing it yourself?

I've done it, and my Senators are doing well, battling with the Sabres for tops in the conference. I feel that I was pretty conservative in my changes, but it is far less fulfilling know that I improved my team. I know its a single player game, and it doesn't affect anyone else (I'm not doing any challenges or anything) but it feels like cheating.

I know almost all fans value their players more than anyone else. Intellectually, I honestly believe they deserve higher attributes, but I also think I overrate my players.

I'm halfway through my first season, and although I'm doing well, I find it the most boring game I've ever played. I'm going to delete the saved game, and revert to the default database.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:35 am
by Minstrel
This is a personal thing of course, but for me it gets too much like "console hockey" using altered attributes. I never use anything beside actual true text-only unfaking to change team and player names.

I trust the research done for EHM; it is all part of a web that includes the entire game universe and if you start changing things in my opinion you weaken the whole game because you are creating selective unbalance. While it may not show right away giving bumps to players especially in the case of "made it so young prospects have a better chance in the NHL" eventually results in unbalance in the game world.

I'm not saying it can't be done but to be done right it takes a huge amount of long range testing and tweaking to make sure you've done it correctly and it stands the test of time.

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:11 pm
by Shadd666
Minstrel: ...and once you've finished for sure this huge work that takes so much time, all the players are 1 year older and their abilities have changed :D

That's why i stand with the initial attributes too :thup:

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:24 am
by mark_htfc
I myself don't mess with the attributes or anything like that either. I like my game to be how it is out of the box. I only let patches alter things. Plus I don't think I would have the paitence.

On PES 5 I changed all the team and player names to the correct ones and that took me ages. I was doing it for hours a day aswell.