Game crashing at "Creating Shortlists" / "Initialising Game Data" stage of new game start-up

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Game crashing at "Creating Shortlists" / "Initialising Game Data" stage of new game start-up

Post by RomaGoth » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:28 am

So after a bit more testing, it appears the game is not reading the extra_config file at all; however, by changing the name of the file (I changed it to roma_config) the game starts up just fine. But, the changes in the file are not reflected in the game (i.e, contract extensions).

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Post by nino33 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:11 pm

Regarding this issue...I just took a very quick look at the extra_config file and noticed players (see below) with a July 31st 2018 Future Transfer date.

So I started up a game with 11.2 with the extra_config file and the database both in the folder (so normally it would crash),
but I started the game with the early start date of July 2nd (i.e. before the occurrence of the future transfers noted above) - the game started up fine with no crash! I checked on Corey Perry's injury status and on who owned Ottawa's 2019 first round pick in the database, and both showed that the extra_config was working properly.


I changed 2018 to 2019 for the transfers below, and tried starting a game without changing the start date...and got a crash :dunno:
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Alec" "Capstick" "Langley Rivermen" "Miami Redhawks" 31 7 2018 0 0 4
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Ryan" "Sandelin" "Penticton Vees" "Minnesota State Mavericks" 31 7 2018 0 0 4
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Scooter" "Brickey" "Des Moines Buccaneers" "Western Michigan Broncos" 31 7 2018 0 0 4

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Post by nino33 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:51 pm

nino33 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:11 pm
I changed 2018 to 2019 for the transfers below, and tried starting a game without changing the start date...and got a crash
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Alec" "Capstick" "Langley Rivermen" "Miami Redhawks" 31 7 2018 0 0 4
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Ryan" "Sandelin" "Penticton Vees" "Minnesota State Mavericks" 31 7 2018 0 0 4
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Scooter" "Brickey" "Des Moines Buccaneers" "Western Michigan Broncos" 31 7 2018 0 0 4
I deleted these three transfers and then started a new game with 11.2 and I used the default August 13th start date & the game started up fine, no crash! :thup:
I checked again for Perry's injury/Colorado having Ottawa's pick, and the extra_config file was functioning as intended :thup:

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Game crashing at "Creating Shortlists" / "Initialising Game Data" stage of new game start-up

Post by archibalduk » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:25 pm

So basically having future transfers prior to the game start date would appear to be the error? :thup:

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Post by RomaGoth » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:35 pm

I've discovered the error. It is specifically related to the early state date option, which means there is a line somewhere in the file that is causing the game to crash at the shortlists point of creation. This is probably a date that is prior to the early start date, perhaps the transfers as Archi mentioned above.

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Post by RomaGoth » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:51 pm

RomaGoth wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:35 pm
I've discovered the error. It is specifically related to the early state date option, which means there is a line somewhere in the file that is causing the game to crash at the shortlists point of creation. This is probably a date that is prior to the early start date, perhaps the transfers as Archi mentioned above.
Scratch that. I'm having the same issue again. I really have no idea what's going on with this database.

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Game crashing at "Creating Shortlists" / "Initialising Game Data" stage of new game start-up

Post by Seraquel » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:41 am

I have the same crashing issue during the shortlist creation. Nothing would load at all, with or without leagues, retention etc.

I went on Steam and spotted a post saying someone got it to work by minimizing during the setup load, and I tried that and its worked for me both with all leagues, full database and other issues, this was on the directly downloaded steam workshop database..

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Game crashing at "Creating Shortlists" / "Initialising Game Data" stage of new game start-up

Post by theravenisdead » Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:13 am

I managed to fix the creating shortlist database startup crash by removing the UK Player retirements and the Arena expansion for Karlskrona from the extra_config file.
Not sure which of the two removals did it:

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# Arena Expansions
ABB ARENA KARLSKRONA 5000

# UK League Retirements (Last reviewed: 11-July-2015 DB v7.4)
# (These are inactive players who might return to playing in the future)
# (Archi should review this list each year to consider whether these players should be removed from the DB)
#
"Daniel" "Giden" "" 1 8 2014
"Richard" "Wojciak" "" 1 8 2014
"Mike" "Smith" "" 1 8 2014
"James" "Cooke" "" 1 8 2014
"Adam" "Jones" "" 1 8 2014
"Graham" "Newell" "" 1 8 2014
"Nicky" "Watt" "" 1 8 2014
"Jamie" "Dancey" "" 1 8 2014
My money is on the UK Retirements.

Once these were removed, it worked fine no matter what I selected. :nod:

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Game crashing at "Creating Shortlists" / "Initialising Game Data" stage of new game start-up

Post by bmason » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:20 pm

I tried this and just commenting out this line fixed it:

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"Daniel" "Giden" "" 1 8 2014

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Game crashing at "Creating Shortlists" / "Initialising Game Data" stage of new game start-up

Post by TiltedAiri » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:53 am

Yay! I was having this exact same issue, thank god you all had figured it out :D

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