2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

This is the place to discuss database or roster projects for Eastside Hockey Manager (other than the TBL Rosters). Please note that any queries about the TBL Rosters or data editing should be asked in the TBL Rosters Forum and the Data Editing Forum respectively.
Forum rules
Data Editing Forum: Editing the game, databases or saved games. Home of the EHM Editor and the EHM Assistant.

Game Add-ons Forum: Database projects, graphics and sounds. Any discussion which does not relate to editing databases or saved games.

Game Knowledge Discussion: Attributes, coaching, drafting, scouting, tactics and training/practice.

Rosters Forum: Discussion relating to all database and roster projects for Eastside Hockey Manager.

TBL Rosters: Discussion, crashes, data issues, questions, etc relating to the TBL Rosters update for Eastside Hockey Manager.

Technical Support: Difficulties, crashes and errors when installing or running the game (and nothing else). Any issues relating to the TBL Rosters must be posted in the TBL Rosters forum. Questions about how to install add-ons must be posted in the Game Add-ons Forum.

General EHM Chat: Anything relating to Eastside Hockey Manager 2004 / 2005 / 2007 / 1 which does not fall within any of the other forums.

Please carry out a forum search before you start a new thread.
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:57 pm

Version 7.0.2 is now available to download from Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 2011517747

This is a very early release intended for testing / experimentation. Whilst some playable leagues are accurate, there are many leagues which require further work (for example some leagues have accurate regular season rules but not playoff rules). See the status table below.

Any feedback regarding incorrect rules, schedules, etc are very welcome.

CHANGELIST:

v7.0.2 (08 March 2020)
  • Reversed [MET] Scoring Patch from UUDB v6.1 which restores Aggression, Agitation, Consistency, Dirtiness and Offensive Role to their original values; and
  • Added Player Roles for 1,600 skaters.
v7.0.1 (01 March 2020)
  • Initial release

CURRENT STATUS (as at 08 March 2020 - Version 7.0.2):
Nation League Structure Schedule Rules In EHM 2007?
International European Hockey Tour Y Y Y Y
International Four Nations U-20 - Czech Y Y Y Y
International Four Nations U-20 - Finnish Y Y Y Y
International Four Nations U-20 - Russian Y Y Y Y
International Four Nations U-20 - Swedish Y Y Y Y
International Olympics Y Y Y Y
International World Championships Y Y Y Y
International World Championships Div 1 Y Y Y Y
International World Cup Y Y Y Y
International World Junior Championships U-20 Y Y Y Y
International World Junior Championships U-20 Div 1 Y Y Y Y
Austria Erste Bank Eishockey Liga Y RL Partial Y
Austria Kelly's All-Star-Game Y
Canada Memorial Cup Y Y Y Y
Canada Ontario Hockey League Y RL Y Y
Canada Quebec Major Junior Hockey League Y RL Y Y
Canada Western Hockey League Y RL Y Y
Continental Continental Cup Y
Continental European Champions Cup Y
Czech Republic 1st Division Y Partial No
Czech Republic Elite League Y Partial Y
Denmark Danish Cup Y
Denmark Oddset Ligaen Y RL Partial Y
Estonia Estonian Hockey League Y Temporary No
Finland Mestis Y Y Y Y
Finland SM-League Y RL Y Y
Finland Suomi Division Y
France Magnus League Y No
Germany DEL All-Star Game Y
Germany Deutsche Eishockey Liga Y Partial Y
Iceland Icelandic Hockey League Y Temporary No
Norway UPC-Ligaen Y Y Partial Y
Russia Match Vsekh Zvezd Y
Russia Superleague Y Y
Slovakia T-Com Extraliga Y Partial Y
Slovenia Elite League Y
Slovenia International Ice Hockey League Y
Slovenia International Ice Hockey League 2 Y
Sweden Allsvenskan Y RL Y Y
Sweden Elitserien Y RL Y Y
United Kingdom Challenge Cup Y Y Partial Y
United Kingdom Elite Ice Hockey League Y Y Partial Y
United Kingdom English National Ice Hockey League Y Temporary Partial No
United Kingdom English Premier Ice Hockey League Y Y Partial Y
United Kingdom EPL Cup Y
United Kingdom Scottish National League Y Temporary Partial No
USA AHL All-Stars Y Y Y Y
USA American Hockey League Y RL Y Y
USA Central Hockey League Y
USA CHL All-Stars Y
USA ECHL Y RL Y Y
USA ECHL All-Stars Y Y Y Y
USA National Hockey League Y RL Y Y
USA NHL All-Stars Y Y Y Y
USA UHL All-Stars Y
USA United Hockey League Y
Note (1): The "In EHM 2007?" indicates whether or not this league was playable in EHM 2007.

Note (2): A "Y" in the Schedule column means that reasonably accurate schedule dates have been set which will EHM will use to dynamically generate a schedule in game. "RL" means that the real life 2006/07 schedule has been added to the database. "Temporary" means that a temporary schedule has been set for the purposes of getting the structure up and running (a final schedule will be set in due course).


ORIGINAL POST (09 JUNE 2019):

I've been playing around with the idea of developing a retro database for EHM 1 in order to take a bit of a break from the Editor work and also to spend some proper time testing out workflow in the Editor. Seeing as the excellent Updated Unfaking Database v6.x (UUDB) by CJ (previously developed by Alessandro, Hobbit13, Lazion and others) has not been touched since 2013 and is not in EHM 1 format, I figured I would try to carry on his and his predecessors' good work. It seems a real shame that this database has not been made available in EHM 1 format. Personally, the 2006/07 season brings back some good memories; not just because it was the opening season in EHM 2007 but also because it reminds me of the time when the TBL community was still emerging.

Anyone who has tried to import the UUDB v6.1 into EHM 1 will have found that only a limited number of leagues are playable in comparison to EHM 2007. My first aim is to make all of the leagues that were playable in EHM 2007 playable in EHM 1. This is quite a time consuming process but I have made reasonable progress in the space of about two weeks. I really hope to have all leagues playable before the end of the summer, if not sooner. I also want to make some additional leagues playable too; such as the French and Italian leagues and the various additional World Championship divisions from the modern EHM 1 database. There are also the [MET] EHM 2007 scoring patch effects which I will need to reverse by rolling back certain attributes to the v6.0 UUDB attributes.

Once I have added the various playable leagues, I'm going to take a look at things like player career histories. Assuming all goes well, I'll also take a look at adding missing players and prospects as well as things such as Player Role ratings.

User avatar
nino33
Mr. Goalie
Posts: 6034
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:37 am
Custom Rank: Retro Rosters Specialist
Favourite Team: 1970s hockey

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by nino33 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:23 pm

This sounds really cool Arch! :thup:

canadianduck
Learning to skate
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:56 am
Favourite Team: Anaheim Ducks

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by canadianduck » Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:42 am

Awesome to see this, any idea on when this may be finished, I used to play the previous version on EHM 2007, and have been hoping somebody would update it for EHM 1.

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:31 pm

I took a break from the modern rosters to briefly return to the 2006/07 rosters. There's still a lot to do, but I have added some additional playable leagues - see the first post in this thread.

Smirnov2Chistov
Prospect
Posts: 57
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:06 pm
Favourite Team: Anaheim Ducks

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by Smirnov2Chistov » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:35 pm

This is really awesome Arch! =D>

on a side note, I'm not sure if I asked you here or on HFBoards.. When the game originally came out, (fake names database) which DB year is that based off of?

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:50 am

Thanks! I'm hoping to have a test version out fairly soon.

The original EHM 1 fake rosters were based on 2014/15.

feeks555
Learning to skate
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:39 pm
Favourite Team: penguins

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by feeks555 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:30 pm

Hey Arch

Can't wait to get this up and running...any timeline on a release?

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:20 pm

No I'm afraid not. Ideally I'd like to get a version out before Christmas but it depends on my job (this time of year is super busy).

Smirnov2Chistov
Prospect
Posts: 57
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:06 pm
Favourite Team: Anaheim Ducks

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by Smirnov2Chistov » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:19 pm

Looking forward to this Arch!

Now is this like a 'modern' version of the EHM 2007 rosters?

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:55 am

It's the 2006/07 Unfaking Database from EHM 2007 (which is basically the vanilla EHM 2007 DB with faked players corrected and various attributes, etc tweaked) which I have converted to EHM 1 format and have added extra playable leagues.

Smirnov2Chistov
Prospect
Posts: 57
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:06 pm
Favourite Team: Anaheim Ducks

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by Smirnov2Chistov » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 pm

Just bumping this to check the progress? Can't wait to have a longevity EHM07 part II save. :joy:

Will this have the 2006/2007 rosters included Arch?

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:34 am

Sorry there's nothing to report at present. I've been spending all of my time recently on adding new functions to the Editor to help the Pivot Rosters along with developing a brand new version of the Editor (Editor v2). Once I have made some more progress with the Editor then I'll switch back and will finalise the first beta of the database. It shouldn't take me long - it's just finding a spare day or two. I will task myself with getting this done by early Feb latest.

Yes the original 2006/2007 rosters are included. Thank your for the enthusiasm. I appreciate it! :-)

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:25 pm

Unfortunately I'll have to delay the rosters by a month or so. :-( There are a couple of bugs in the Editor which I've been fixing and now we have found another one today which is going to take a while to fix (and I'm away one week). So mid-March is more likely now. ](*,)

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:01 pm

Smirnov2Chistov wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:58 pm
Just bumping this to check the progress? Can't wait to have a longevity EHM07 part II save. :joy:

Will this have the 2006/2007 rosters included Arch?
An early version is now available on Steam - see the first post of this thread.

Note that this is a very early version and it needs a lot of work with regards to playable league rules.

User avatar
TurboJ
Drafted
Posts: 186
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:08 pm
Favourite Team: TPS

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by TurboJ » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:56 pm

Very nice! Will have to try this one out.

How much further from 2007 does the prospect pool reach BTW? I would love to be able to play a database that had multiple years of real prospects, just adds to the feeling of realism so much.

Thanks for the continuing effort on behalf of this community!

Smirnov2Chistov
Prospect
Posts: 57
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:06 pm
Favourite Team: Anaheim Ducks

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by Smirnov2Chistov » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:25 pm

archibalduk wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:01 pm
n early version is now available on Steam - see the first post of this thread.

Note that this is a very early version and it needs a lot of work with regards to playable league rules.
Thank you for making this possible!

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:43 pm

TurboJ wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:56 pm
Very nice! Will have to try this one out.

How much further from 2007 does the prospect pool reach BTW? I would love to be able to play a database that had multiple years of real prospects, just adds to the feeling of realism so much.

Thanks for the continuing effort on behalf of this community!
At the moment, only some future prospects are currently present in the DB. All I have done so far is add some playable leagues and undo a Realism/Scoring Patch which was previously applied to the UUDB. So 99.99% of the work in the DB is by the original authors of the Unfaking Database and Updated Unfaking Database and not me. I can't recall whether Alessandro and team added any prospects up to 2011 but I know CJ added some up to 2014 (see here for an approximate, but most likely out of date list).

I'm going to continue to work on the playable leagues for now. I want to be in a position where all of the original EHM 2007 playable leagues are playable in EHM 1. I can then take a look at adding missing prospects for each NHL draft. The great thing is that we have all of the ratings from subsequent TBL Rosters, so I can base ratings on those. I actually have a half-finished tool which allows me to track players' ratings across databases. I should really finish that at some point as it would be a great help.

In the meantime, I'm going to switch back to the Editor for a little while but I'll try and turn back to the database in a month or so.
Smirnov2Chistov wrote:
Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:25 pm
Thank you for making this possible!
You're very welcome! :thup:

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:03 pm

A new version is now available via the Steam Workshop:

v7.0.2 (08 March 2020)
  • Reversed [MET] Scoring Patch from UUDB v6.1 which restores Aggression, Agitation, Consistency, Dirtiness and Offensive Role to their original values; and
  • Added Player Roles for 1,600 skaters.

Modano
Prospect
Posts: 89
Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:38 pm
Favourite Team: Dallas Stars

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by Modano » Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:35 pm

Thank you for your effort! :notworthy: Btw. are there any graphical addons you could recommend to use with this db?

I'm not sure if it's useful but I've noticed that Dwayne Roloson's from the Oilers stats are way too good, he's so staked! :grin:

Moses Doughty
Top Prospect
Posts: 101
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:54 pm
Location: California

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by Moses Doughty » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:26 am

Has anyone had an issue with the DB not showing up in your ones to pick from when starting a new save? Have subscribed/re-subscribed and then quit/reopen steam and it hasn't appeared yet.

Edit: actually I have a subscribed, needs update issue if that happened to anyone else

price31
Prospect
Posts: 84
Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 6:56 pm

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by price31 » Wed May 06, 2020 5:54 pm

Hey Archi,

started a recent save on this DB as the habs and Perezhogin is signed to an NHL contract but is arranged to transfer to the russian superleague. is this a bug or normal for the DB? i can send you a copy of the db if needed.

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Wed May 06, 2020 7:42 pm

price31 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 5:54 pm
Hey Archi,

started a recent save on this DB as the habs and Perezhogin is signed to an NHL contract but is arranged to transfer to the russian superleague. is this a bug or normal for the DB? i can send you a copy of the db if needed.
It's normal for the database. There are a number of future transfers of players set up in the extra_config.cfg file which accompanies the database and which includes the Perezhogin transfer. I'm guessing this is to reflect his real life return to Russia following the 2006/07 season but I wouldn't want to second-guess the original database authors (especially Alessandro who is an expert on Russian hockey).

If you're not happy with that transfer occurring, you can delete this line from the extra_config.cfg file (or any of the other lines which have transfers you don't like) before starting a new game:

Code: Select all

"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Alexander" "Perezhogin" "Montreal Canadiens" "Salavat Yulajev Ufa" 1 7 2007 0 1300000 2

BulldogsFan
Drafted
Posts: 161
Joined: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:59 pm

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by BulldogsFan » Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:11 pm

dumb question... do you guys know if it can just start as a new league or if it has to be ehm1 imported?

User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 19606
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by archibalduk » Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:54 am

You can just start a new game like normal. No need to import.

User avatar
TBIF
Junior League
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:38 pm
Favourite Team: Canucks

2006/07: Expanded Unfaking Database v7+ (EHM 1 Continuation)

Post by TBIF » Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:44 pm

Anyway to get in touch with the OG contributors?

Post Reply

Return to “Rosters Forum”