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This is the place to discuss all aspects of the TBL Roster Update for Eastside Hockey Manager. Report data mistakes, volunteer to be a researcher or simply discuss any aspect of the TBL Rosters here.
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We cannot generally give estimated release dates for the TBL Rosters.

Please do not ask us when the release date will be as we simply cannot say. The update work is undertaken by a small number of very kind users who do the work in their spare time. It is simply the case that the update will be released as soon as the planned work has been completed. For obvious reasons we do not rush releases.

The more people who help with the updating work, the quicker we can get the rosters updated and released. If you would like to help then please post in the Researcher Sign-up Thread. All serious offers of help are very gratefully received.

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Post by archibalduk » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:19 pm

The TBL Rosters are changing for the better!

In recent years it has proven challenging to release the new season’s TBL Rosters in a timely manner, with the season opening rosters not being released until the new year and, in the case of last season, towards the end of the regular season. This is frustrating not only for the community but also for those of us that work on the rosters day in day out. Unfortunately the time pressures of real life and a dwindling number of researchers have resulted in fewer man hours and delays in release dates.

Whilst the TBL Rosters have been struggling with resources, we have seen two new modern roster updates over recent years with BK’s semi-fictional expanded NHL/international rosters and xECK29x’s Premier Pivot Rosters. So it hasn’t been all bad for the EHM community. In fact, we now have more actively developed roster update projects than we have had for many years indeed.

Back in March 2019, Manimal and xECK29x first starting talking about the possibility of collaborating. With the Premier Pivot Rosters, xECK29x has developed a highly respected, detailed and frequently released roster update. Both the TBL Rosters and the Premier Pivot Rosters seek to achieve the same goal; a detailed, realistic roster update which seeks to provide a breadth of playing options (such as varied international leagues and age brackets ranging from junior to pro). The duplication of work between the two projects is massive and we’re ultimately spreading the number of researchers between the two projects.

Over the past six months we have been contributing to xECK29x’s Premier Pivot Rosters instead of the existing TBL Rosters (and in fact we have been sharing work between the projects for much longer than that). Effectively the TBL Rosters have been folded into the Premier Pivot Rosters. This should significantly reduce duplication of work whilst allowing us to get more done.

So where does this leave the TBL Rosters? First off, it’s important to emphasise that the Premier Pivot Rosters are xECK29x’s project and not TBL’s. We are simply feeding into xECK29x’s rosters and have no say in the direction of the rosters. Secondly, the Premier Pivot Rosters are what we would describe as “rolling rosters”. In other words, they are kept up to date all season as and when transactions occur. The TBL Rosters have taken a different approach by adopting a “start of season” approach by freezing transactions from the NHL opening night. It is anticipated that this will be the sole distinction between the two roster updates going forward. Every now and then, we will “branch” the Premier Pivot Rosters, reverse the transactions back to the NHL opening night and then release as the TBL Rosters. The community will then have the luxury of there being two ways of playing; either using the rolling updates of the Premier Pivot Rosters or by using the start of season updates of the TBL Rosters. We feel this is really great news for the EHM community. By concentrating our work into a single project, we should see more frequent releases of the rosters and with more in-depth work. Just as importantly, it will mean more choice for the EHM community.

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Post by xECK29x » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:33 pm

Been a lot of fun working with the group here at TBL, we have big plans moving forward and I'm so thankful for all the support the community has given my team since the project started!

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Post by Iceman90 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:08 pm

This is an excellent decision!

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Post by philou21 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:56 am

I think this is a very good news! I hope for the best with your projects guys! :)

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Post by BENJ78 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:05 am

Hello Guys !! Thanks for your work !! But i have a question : when a start a new season with your new TBL roster the game crash when i want play with minimum data base is it normal ?

Leroibenji from France !!!

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Post by xECK29x » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:35 pm

BENJ78 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:05 am
when a start a new season with your new TBL roster the game crash when i want play with minimum data base is it normal ?
Depends on how you are setting up the league, minimum database we have not tried but it's possible it may be removing key data. Make sure you are using 'Retain All Teams'.

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Post by archibalduk » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:52 pm

Yes, using the the Minimium setting can cause players (or possibly teams) to be missing from start up. You can use the Add Players to Playable Teams setting to resolve this. If you're still getting the issue even with this setting then I'd be interested to know what leagues you have selected.

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Post by BENJ78 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:44 am

Hey !! Guys Thanks for the answers !! It's ok the game works well !!! I can start m new season with the Devils !

I love your TBL ROSTER !!!! I love Blue Line !!! and i love this game i gave up Football Manager for eastside Hockey manager !!

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Post by clamel » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:39 pm

Perhaps it's a bit of overwork, BUT is "someone" working on Player careers in the bigger leagues. I do think NHL is well taken care off, but SHL, KHL, Finnish and so on.
I know it's a homongous work, but like know.

Perhaps when TBL is ready and set for season opening teams and have iron out the first flurry of bugs I intend to jump in first in SHL, Allsvenskan and fill in what's missing. Hate to have new version delete "my addings" when Steam just pumps out a new version.

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Post by archibalduk » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:36 pm

Yes we're working on histories in other leagues inclusive of the SHL and Allsvenskan. It's long, tedious work and so it's taking time.

If you copy your Steam DB into the 'database' subfolder in your EHM installation folder then your changes will be kept separate from any future Workshop updates.

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Post by clamel » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:23 am

Thanks for that. Yes I know it's a Gary Laskoski of work, so I wait patiently on how far you get in the coming weeks, then pick it up myself. Don't like to see you discovered a serious bug in some league and then all my updating would be wasted. Thanks for everything by the way.

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