Page 1 of 9

NHL Prospect Research help wanted

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:59 pm
by Manimal
The work with the Lidas 3.0-rosters is going fine but it takes time (and so do the real life). We did this last year so I am bringing the question back,

Will anyone of you guys be so nice and help out with rating the prospects for each team? Mostly, we go by the rating system from Hockey's future.com but there is also Archibalduk's strength calculator. We have set up a Prospect Research Guide to be used.

From http://www.hockeysfuture.com/ you can find ratings for the teams. Also, set attributes accordingly.

Other useful links:
http://hockeydb.com/
http://www.eliteprospects.com/

TEAMS

ANA - panfork DONE
ATL - WallyWallcakes DONE
BOS - Bruins72 DONE
BUF - WallyWallcakes DONE
CGY -
CAR - bluejackets17 DONE
CHI - bluejackets17 DONE
COL - empach
CBS - Leeman14 DONE
DAL - Doug342 DONE
DET - empach
EDM - visualdarkness DONE
FLA -
LA - empach DONE
MIN - Panfork
MTL - Doug342
NSH - empach DONE
NJ - tksolway
NYI -
NYR - papegojbro DONE
OTT - doug342 DONE
PHI - Ryujin DONE
PHO - bruins72
PIT - Ryujin DONE
STL - Leeman14
SJ - Souamort DONE
TB - Manimal DONE
TOR - Leeman14 DONE
VAN - Empach DONE
WSH - McQwak DONE

Thanks for your help!

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:41 am
by Komets
I will. But I have one question, the prospect team in general or each prospect individualy?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:44 am
by McQwak
I can start with Washington.
Btw, for those new and interested. Here's how we did it last year. Could be usefull.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:07 pm
by Manimal
Komets wrote:I will. But I have one question, the prospect team in general or each prospect individualy?
Each prospect individually

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:07 pm
by Manimal
McQwak wrote:I can start with Washington.
Btw, for those new and interested. Here's how we did it last year. Could be usefull.
Thanks

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:23 pm
by rfroese
I'll do the Islanders.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:46 pm
by papegojbro
I can edit NY Rangers.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:08 pm
by bruins72
Sometimes NHL.com is a good help for player stats. HockeyDB doesn't show +/- but NHL.com does. Of course, that's only helpful if the player is listed with the team on NHL.com. Some prospects who haven't made the NHL or AHL yet aren't listed. I've found that the individual junior teams will show all of their players' stats for the previous season, including +/-. I can never seem to find +/- for NCAA players though. Do they not track it?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:37 pm
by Leeman14
Manimal,

Mark me down for Toronto and Columbus.


Cheers!

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:13 pm
by Leeman14
Rain, strep throat and a nagging wife have conspired to keep me locked away in bed with my laptop so when I finish these two teams' prospects, I'll see what else you need. :-D

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:36 pm
by bruins72
LOL! Sorry to hear about all the bad stuff but at least something good is coming out of it, Leeman.

:-p

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:00 pm
by batdad
The real Leeman did nothing for a lot longer(in the NHL)than this Leeman will...

I wish I could help out, but I just cannot commit time. I have no idea when I will have it. :-D

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:27 pm
by timmy_t
I'd love to help! I can do Colorado and Minnesota.

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:00 pm
by empach
I did a few teams last year so I'm willing to help out again this year.
I'll take Nashville and LA if you'll have me.

When do you want them?

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:38 pm
by Leeman14
I've been sifting through a few posts from last year's project with Lidas and could not find the answer to my questions although there were several allusions to a (possible) answer... so here are my questions:

Must I complete all tabs of the spreadsheet (ie. CA_Goalies, CA_Defensemen, CA_Forwards and Player Changes) ?

Secondly, would you prefer that I complete the entire spreadsheet for 'Player Changes' even if certain attributes do not change -or- would you prefer that I input ONLY those attributes that have changed?



Cheers,


Leeman

Phoenix

Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:44 pm
by Peterman5000
i can handle Phoenix.

I live out here currently and have a cursory knowledge of the Coyotes system.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:04 am
by Ryujin
I'd be willing to help with Pittsburgh.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:37 am
by Manimal
Leeman14 wrote:I've been sifting through a few posts from last year's project with Lidas and could not find the answer to my questions although there were several allusions to a (possible) answer... so here are my questions:

Must I complete all tabs of the spreadsheet (ie. CA_Goalies, CA_Defensemen, CA_Forwards and Player Changes) ?

Secondly, would you prefer that I complete the entire spreadsheet for 'Player Changes' even if certain attributes do not change -or- would you prefer that I input ONLY those attributes that have changed?



Cheers,


Leeman
Those CA_position tabs are for calculating Current Ability. Put all new values in the tab marked player changes.
And No, you don't need to post attributes that do not change. In fact, it is much easier if you only post attributes that changes

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:39 am
by Manimal
empach wrote: When do you want them?
As soon as they are done. I won't make a release until all is done(plus other things that I am currently working on myself)

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:54 am
by Leeman14
Last question...


Are we still rolling back each player's birth year by 3 years?

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:13 am
by visualdarkness
I can try to do the Oilers, I mean, I would bully you with ratings the whole year anyway. :-p

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:01 am
by visualdarkness
Wow, this is almost too hard for me. I'm not entirely sure how to do stuff. Well, time to read the old thread when I got the energy...

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:37 am
by visualdarkness
How hard should I follow the HF/PA conversion table?
Eberle, Hall and Pääjärvi all get -14, I can't see the guys becoming fourth-liners.

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:40 pm
by Manimal
visualdarkness wrote:Wow, this is almost too hard for me. I'm not entirely sure how to do stuff. Well, time to read the old thread when I got the energy...
Some things has changed since then. Post a question in this thread instead
visualdarkness wrote:How hard should I follow the HF/PA conversion table?
Eberle, Hall and Pääjärvi all get -14, I can't see the guys becoming fourth-liners.
Feel free to up their PA's

Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:41 pm
by Manimal
Leeman14 wrote:Last question...


Are we still rolling back each player's birth year by 3 years?
No, it's actually four years now. But you don't have to list DOB for existing players