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				NHL Prospect Research help wanted
				Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:59 pm
				by Manimal
				The work with the Lidas 3.0-rosters is going fine but it takes time (and so do the real life). We did this last year so I am bringing the question back,
Will anyone of you guys be so nice and help out with rating the prospects for each team? Mostly, we go by the rating system from Hockey's future.com but there is also Archibalduk's strength calculator. We have set up a 
Prospect Research Guide to be used.
From 
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/ you can find ratings for the teams. Also, set attributes accordingly.
Other useful links:
http://hockeydb.com/
http://www.eliteprospects.com/
TEAMS
ANA - panfork              DONE
ATL - WallyWallcakes    DONE
BOS - Bruins72            DONE
BUF - WallyWallcakes   DONE
CGY - 
CAR - bluejackets17     DONE
CHI - bluejackets17      DONE
COL - empach
CBS - Leeman14          DONE
DAL - Doug342            DONE
DET - empach
EDM - visualdarkness    DONE
FLA - 
LA - empach                DONE
MIN - Panfork
MTL - Doug342
NSH - empach             DONE
NJ - tksolway
NYI - 
NYR - papegojbro        DONE
OTT - doug342           DONE
PHI - Ryujin               DONE
PHO - bruins72
PIT - Ryujin             DONE
STL - Leeman14
SJ - Souamort          DONE
TB - Manimal            DONE
TOR - Leeman14        DONE
VAN - Empach           DONE
WSH - McQwak          DONE
Thanks for your help!
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:41 am
				by Komets
				I will. But I have one question, the prospect team in general or each prospect individualy?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:44 am
				by McQwak
				I can start with Washington.
Btw, for those new and interested. 
Here's how we did it last year. Could be usefull.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:07 pm
				by Manimal
				Komets wrote:I will. But I have one question, the prospect team in general or each prospect individualy?
Each prospect individually
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:07 pm
				by Manimal
				McQwak wrote:I can start with Washington.
Btw, for those new and interested. 
Here's how we did it last year. Could be usefull.
 
Thanks
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:23 pm
				by rfroese
				I'll do the Islanders.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:46 pm
				by papegojbro
				I can edit NY Rangers.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:08 pm
				by bruins72
				Sometimes NHL.com is a good help for player stats. HockeyDB doesn't show +/- but NHL.com does. Of course, that's only helpful if the player is listed with the team on NHL.com. Some prospects who haven't made the NHL or AHL yet aren't listed. I've found that the individual junior teams will show all of their players' stats for the previous season, including +/-. I can never seem to find +/- for NCAA players though. Do they not track it?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:37 pm
				by Leeman14
				Manimal,
Mark me down for Toronto and Columbus.
Cheers!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:13 pm
				by Leeman14
				Rain, strep throat and a nagging wife have conspired to keep me locked away in bed with my laptop so when I finish these two teams' prospects, I'll see what else you need.   

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:36 pm
				by bruins72
				LOL! Sorry to hear about all the bad stuff but at least something good is coming out of it, Leeman. 
 
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:00 pm
				by batdad
				The real Leeman did nothing for a lot longer(in the NHL)than this Leeman will...
I wish I could help out, but I just cannot commit time. I have no idea when I will have it.  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:27 pm
				by timmy_t
				I'd love to help!  I can do Colorado and Minnesota.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:00 pm
				by empach
				I did a few teams last year so I'm willing to help out again this year. 
I'll take Nashville and LA if you'll have me.
When do you want them?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:38 pm
				by Leeman14
				I've been sifting through a few posts from last year's project with Lidas and could not find the answer to my questions although there were several allusions to a (possible) answer... so here are my questions:
Must I complete all tabs of the spreadsheet (ie. CA_Goalies, CA_Defensemen, CA_Forwards and Player Changes) ?
Secondly, would you prefer that I complete the entire spreadsheet for 'Player Changes' even if certain attributes do not change -or- would you prefer that I input ONLY those attributes that have changed?
Cheers,
Leeman
			 
			
					
				Phoenix
				Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:44 pm
				by Peterman5000
				i can handle Phoenix.
I live out here currently and have a cursory knowledge of the Coyotes system.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:04 am
				by Ryujin
				I'd be willing to help with Pittsburgh.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:37 am
				by Manimal
				Leeman14 wrote:I've been sifting through a few posts from last year's project with Lidas and could not find the answer to my questions although there were several allusions to a (possible) answer... so here are my questions:
Must I complete all tabs of the spreadsheet (ie. CA_Goalies, CA_Defensemen, CA_Forwards and Player Changes) ?
Secondly, would you prefer that I complete the entire spreadsheet for 'Player Changes' even if certain attributes do not change -or- would you prefer that I input ONLY those attributes that have changed?
Cheers,
Leeman
Those CA_position tabs are for calculating Current Ability. Put all new values in the tab marked player changes.
And No, you don't need to post attributes that do not change. In fact, it is much easier if you only post attributes that changes
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:39 am
				by Manimal
				empach wrote:
When do you want them?
As soon as they are done. I won't make a release until all is done(plus other things that I am currently working on myself)
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:54 am
				by Leeman14
				Last question...
Are we still rolling back each player's birth year by 3 years?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:13 am
				by visualdarkness
				I can try to do the Oilers, I mean, I would bully you with ratings the whole year anyway.  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:01 am
				by visualdarkness
				Wow, this is almost too hard for me. I'm not entirely sure how to do stuff. Well, time to read the old thread when I got the energy...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:37 am
				by visualdarkness
				How hard should I follow the HF/PA conversion table?
Eberle, Hall and Pääjärvi all get -14, I can't see the guys becoming fourth-liners.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:40 pm
				by Manimal
				visualdarkness wrote:Wow, this is almost too hard for me. I'm not entirely sure how to do stuff. Well, time to read the old thread when I got the energy...
Some things has changed since then. Post a question in this thread instead
visualdarkness wrote:How hard should I follow the HF/PA conversion table?
Eberle, Hall and Pääjärvi all get -14, I can't see the guys becoming fourth-liners.
Feel free to up their PA's
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:41 pm
				by Manimal
				Leeman14 wrote:Last question...
Are we still rolling back each player's birth year by 3 years?
No, it's actually four years now. But you don't have to list DOB for existing players