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Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED!
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:26 pm
by archibalduk
As you may have seen from my ramblings in my blog (
LINK), I've been developing a competition and player/staff career history editor. The editor can be used by lots of users at the same time and then joined together and imported into the Manimal database. As soon as the 2011/12 Manimal Rosters v4.0 is released, I will be able to make the editor available so that we can start researching the histories (we can't start using the editor until the rosters are released because I have to export some of the data from the rosters to the editor).
Although we can't yet get underway with the editor, it is possible to do some preliminary work. If anybody is interested in helping, it is possible to put all of the player career stats into a spreadsheet and then this can be copied and pasted into the editor once it is available. So if you would like to help with the project by entering stats into the editor, you could get started now by compiling the stats into a spreadsheet. Then, once the editor is available, you can go through each player in the editor and paste in the stats. Note that although you can paste the stats into the editor, you still have to manually set the team/competition/year/playoff fields. It is just literally the stats themselves (goals, assists, PIM, etc) that can be pasted.
If you would like to help out then please post in here to say which teams you would like to research (please post these details just before you start researching the teams so as to avoid any users researching the same teams). Ideally, I would like to concentrate solely on the playable leagues to start with. Please note that you should research stats for every player contracted to the team. We are looking for career stats from 2006/07 until 2010/11 (inclusive).
EDIT: The most up to date list of teams and leagues taken can be found on the most recent page of this thread (it gets quoted and updated regularly in new posts)
If you start to put the stats into Excel then it'll give you a head start once the editor has been released. Below is an example of how you could get started with the research. You'll notice that I added Pts for skaters - I only did this because it is included on websites such as hockeydb.com etc. In order to copy and paste the data into the editor, I would first need to delete the Pts column. I just included it here because it's quick and easy to copy and paste the whole lot from the internet and we can then later delete the column once it is done.
P.s. To start with, the editor will only be available for the Manimal Rosters v4.0. I'm using this project a bit like a beta test of the editor. Assuming it all works okay (and I'm fairly confident that it will), I will in the future release the full editor and accompanying programme so that users can edit any other rosters they want.
P.p.s. I apologise if this post doesn't make much sense (let me know if it doesn't and I will explain more) - I've had a busy day!

Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:28 pm
by archibalduk
I'll get us started (there is a reason I am starting with these teams):
Research list wrote:NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Winnipeg - Archi
In addition, I will do all of the competition histories (because I can get started on these now using the editor).
Please quote the above list in your post if you would like to claim any teams/leagues. 
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:00 pm
by WallyWallcakes
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Winnipeg - Archi
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:00 am
by Isles22
WallyWallcakes wrote:NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Winnipeg - Archi
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:02 am
by Isles22
If we pick an NHL team should we also get info for their "affiliate" team?
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:31 am
by Manimal
Isles22 wrote:If we pick an NHL team should we also get info for their "affiliate" team?
You should take info for all with contract to the Islanders, not just the ones on their NHL-squad.
If you have the time you can add the Sound Tigers AHL-signed players as well. Just note it in the list of teams
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:34 am
by AaronRStanley
NHL
Toronto Maple Leafs - AaronRStanley
And depending on how that goes, I'd be willing to assist further.
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:50 am
by WallyWallcakes
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Winnipeg - Archi
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
AHL
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:36 am
by AaronRStanley
Sorry, for the sake of clarity
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Winnipeg - Archi
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
Leafs - AaronRStanley
AHL
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Toronto Marlies - AaronRStanley
I'll be doing all the players contracted to the Maple Leafs organization.
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:37 am
by AaronRStanley
Also, are international statistics needed, like World Championship and Olympics?
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:01 am
by watts555
Ill do the canucks
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:33 am
by archibalduk
AaronRStanley wrote:Also, are international statistics needed, like World Championship and Olympics?
I personally think we give these a miss at the moment. Let's just concentrate on getting the playable league competitions done. Once we achieved that, we can look at international histories and also the free agents.
What a great response so far! Fingers crossed we can achieve our goal together.

Lazion is very kindly providing me with all of the league and international competition histories he did for the UUDB which is going to save me a heap of research.

I'll just need to work on converting them over. Once I've done the competition histories, Anaheim and Winnipeg, I'll put myself down for some more teams.
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Winnipeg - Archi
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
Leafs - AaronRStanley
Vancouver - Watts555
AHL
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Toronto Marlies - AaronRStanley
As Manimal said, we're looking to do all players contracted to the team rather than just those on their active roster.
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:15 am
by Alessandro
archibalduk wrote:AaronRStanley wrote: Lazion is very kindly providing me with all of the league and international competition histories he did for the UUDB which is going to save me a heap of research.
I guess you can simply copy-paste the relative part from hex editor into the relative files of Manimal DB.
By the way, if someone is willing to help the UUDB as well, please let us know
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:24 am
by Smetana
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Winnipeg - Archi
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
Leafs - AaronRStanley
Penguins - Smetana
AHL
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Toronto Marlies - AaronRStanley
Wilkes Barre/Scranton Baby Pens - Smetana
I'll be doing all the players contracted to the Maple Leafs organization.
I'll take all players under contract with Pittsburgh.
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:59 pm
by kabbott50
I put these in alphabetical order to make it a little easier to read.
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Colorado - kabbott50
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
Leafs - AaronRStanley
NY Islanders - Isles22
Penguins - Smetana
Winnipeg - Archi
AHL
Lake Erie - kabbott50
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Toronto Marlies - AaronRStanley
Wilkes Barre/Scranton Baby Pens - Smetana
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:03 pm
by Gige
Id be very interested in doing sime of the teams in the ECHL, mainly the Reading Royals...
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:14 pm
by DoubleB
I can do the Detroit Red Wings and Grand Rapids Griffins. Also if needed I will do the Kalamazoo Wings of the ECHL.
p.s. I have already started researching the Red Wings and should we include player stats from World Juniors, Olympics, etc.?
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:43 pm
by kabbott50
DoubleB wrote:I can do the Detroit Red Wings and Grand Rapids Griffins. Also if needed I will do the Kalamazoo Wings of the ECHL.
p.s. I have already started researching the Red Wings and should we include player stats from World Juniors, Olympics, etc.?
archibalduk wrote:AaronRStanley wrote:Also, are international statistics needed, like World Championship and Olympics?
I personally think we give these a miss at the moment. Let's just concentrate on getting the playable league competitions done. Once we achieved that, we can look at international histories and also the free agents.

Just figured I'd save Archi the trouble of typing it again...
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:28 pm
by kabbott50
I've got the current Colorado roster complete, but not having much luck finding win-loss records, saves and save percentages for Varlamov in his early Russian days. Anybody know of any, maybe, Russian sites that would carry them? I've looked on hockeydb.com, eliteprospects.com and tsn.ca. I'm not too familiar with European hockey sites, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:45 pm
by bobmcgoo
Should be right up my street, hey Archi?
kabbott50 wrote:I put these in alphabetical order to make it a little easier to read.
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Chicago - bobmcgoo
Colorado - kabbott50
Detroit - DoubleB
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
Pittsburgh - Smetana
Toronto - AaronRStanley
Vancouver - Watts555
Winnipeg - Archi
AHL
Grand Rapids - DoubleB
Lake Erie - kabbott50
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Toronto Marlies - AaronRStanley
Wilkes Barre/Scranton Baby Pens - Smetana
I'll almost certainly be able to do another team if needed...
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:17 pm
by jobiol
i take montreal canadiens but a have a question, where to find to excel sheet or a create a new excel for the montreal canadiens rosters this year?
sorry for my english
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:27 pm
by kabbott50
jobiol wrote:i take montreal canadiens but a have a question, where to find to excel sheet or a create a new excel for the montreal canadiens rosters this year?
sorry for my english
You should create your own, as the editor is not ready to disperse yet. This is to get everything set so it will be a relatively easy transition from spreadsheet to editor.
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:30 pm
by Reave
NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Chicago - bobmcgoo
Colorado - kabbott50
Detroit - DoubleB
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
Pittsburgh - Smetana
Toronto - AaronRStanley
Vancouver - Watts555
Winnipeg - Archi
AHL
Grand Rapids - DoubleB
Lake Erie - kabbott50
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Toronto Marlies - AaronRStanley
Wilkes Barre/Scranton Baby Pens - Smetana
Swedish Elitserien
Färjestad BK - Reave
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:50 pm
by kabbott50
Reave wrote:NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Buffalo - kabbott50
Chicago - bobmcgoo
Colorado - kabbott50
Detroit - DoubleB
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
NY Islanders - Isles22
Pittsburgh - Smetana
Toronto - AaronRStanley
Vancouver - Watts555
Winnipeg - Archi
AHL
Grand Rapids - DoubleB
Lake Erie - kabbott50
Oklahoma City Barons - WallyWallcakes
Rochester - kabbott50
Toronto Marlies - AaronRStanley
Wilkes Barre/Scranton Baby Pens - Smetana
Swedish Elitserien
Färjestad BK - Reave
I've got Colorado and Lake Erie completed (with some minor goalie details missing), so I think I'll try my hand with Buffalo and Rochester next.
Re: Updating the history in Manimal v4.1 - VOLUNTEERS NEEDED
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:51 pm
by ThunderWolf
kabbott50 wrote:I've got the current Colorado roster complete, but not having much luck finding win-loss records, saves and save percentages for Varlamov in his early Russian days. Anybody know of any, maybe, Russian sites that would carry them? I've looked on hockeydb.com, eliteprospects.com and tsn.ca. I'm not too familiar with European hockey sites, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
http://www.russianprospects.com/public/ ... yer_id=514