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Loosie wrote:Something else I wanted to note. I've copied in the Barrie Colts data, and noticed that Mark Schiefle and Ivan Telegin are not listed with Barrie, they are listed with the Jets. I knew Schiefle was under contract with the Jets but I didn't realize that Ivan Telegin was. So I do have stats for them. What I will do is PM those that have done the teams that OHL players are under contract with in the NHL and see if they have histories for them.

I looked at the PreEditor and they were listed in the 'Staff' section for the Colts and that's what I based my list off of, not thinking to check the players contract section.

I also take it that this would be where we use the 'loan' option as well when entering stats? Or does the loan option really effect anything?
I think you should start up the game to see all OHLers that are under contract to NHL teams. Also, by just checking under 'Staff' you might miss a couple guys that are assigned to lower leagues. Use the filter option on 'Staff & Players' to get all signed by a team.
I am not sure what the loan option does, but Scheifele and Telegin is on loan for this season not the ones before so it does not concern them
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Does the game automatically calculate the GAA and SV %? I noticed there wasn't a spot in the editor.

(Sorry if this was answered previously).
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kabbott50 wrote:Does the game automatically calculate the GAA and SV %? I noticed there wasn't a spot in the editor.

(Sorry if this was answered previously).
Yes.
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Hey guys. Thanks to all of you getting under way with the Editor so quickly. I've done my best below to answer your questions.

Just to let you know that I'm without internet access from 21 - 27 December but I can answer any further questions before and after that period.
Reave wrote:I got a problem with the history editor.

If I try the x64 file, it says I need to uninstall my office version, which I think I can't as it was installed when I got the computer and there is no disc (I think).

Using the non x64 file I can't install the SP1, but I can launch the history editor, but I get this message, when I click on any league/team/player:

If I choose OK, nothing happens when I click on anything, If I choose cancel then this shows up again whenever I try to click on something. Is it because SP1 isn't installed?

EDIT: I managed to get SP1 installed, but the message remains though.
I suggest uninstalling the x64 Runtime/SP1 and using the other version (i.e. the 32 bit version). I have 64 bit Windows 7 but still use the 32 bit version of Office. If you still have trouble with the 32 bit Runtime + SP1 then try adding this hotfix as well.
AP21 wrote:How do I get the History Editor to run on my 64-bit system?
Visit the links I provided in my post (i.e. the Runtime and SP1) and download the 32-bit versions of them. Don't use the x64 / 64-bit version. I have Windows 7 64-bit and it works fine with 32-bit Office.
stone169 wrote:It won't let me change the location of where to load the CSV file from.
Enter new text in the box and press Enter. There's no reason why it won't accept it - unless the Editor is located in C:/Program Files/ (in which case, put it somewhere else).
Asbeen wrote:It won't let me enter the year ex;"2006-07" ,I get an error message about invalid number or something similar.
You just enter the start year. E.g. for 2006/07 you just enter 2006. The 2006/07 playoffs are recorded as 2006 also.
Loosie wrote:HOLY rubbish ARCHIE!!! That is some amazing work you have done. :notworthy:

Question about CSVs, as I have taken on the entire OHL, did you want me to send you a CSV per team, or just wait until I've finished the whole league?
Thank you. :) If anybody has any constructive criticism or feedback, I'd gladly take it on board.

I suggest either sending one CSV per league or maybe one CSV per four or five teams - whichever you would prefer.
Loosie wrote:Something else I wanted to note. I've copied in the Barrie Colts data, and noticed that Mark Schiefle and Ivan Telegin are not listed with Barrie, they are listed with the Jets. I knew Schiefle was under contract with the Jets but I didn't realize that Ivan Telegin was. So I do have stats for them. What I will do is PM those that have done the teams that OHL players are under contract with in the NHL and see if they have histories for them.

I looked at the PreEditor and they were listed in the 'Staff' section for the Colts and that's what I based my list off of, not thinking to check the players contract section.

I also take it that this would be where we use the 'loan' option as well when entering stats? Or does the loan option really effect anything?
Just tick the Loan box if the player was on loan at that team where he achieved those stats. It doesn't mean anything other than indicating he was on loan to that particular team when he achieved those stats.

Just add stats for the players listed for that team in the Editor. If they are not listed then don't worry about them. If you want and, if you can find them in the Free Agent list, then feel free to add them. But if they are listed under another team then don't add them because somebody else will pick them up. We have to be cautious because we don't want two people to add data for the same player because it'll mean having to go back through the data and removing the duplicates.
kabbott50 wrote:Does the game automatically calculate the GAA and SV %? I noticed there wasn't a spot in the editor.

(Sorry if this was answered previously).
The GAA and Sv% are automatically calculated when you start a new game. The Editor lists every stat category that exists in the database. If it's not there then you don't need to worry about it. :)
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How do I imput stats for example for Radko Gudas as he played for Kladno's U18 and U20 teams in 2006-2007 season? Do I just add them together or what? They have two junior teams (HC Kladno Jrs. and Pracovni zalohy Kladno Jrs) but I'm not sure if either of those are the U18 team.
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when i click on the button entitled Export Career History program generates an error, something about the impossibility to use fractions in text files.
I think the problem in this

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Russian computer does not recognize the specific Czech, Swedish, Finnish letters, well, or just my computer does not recognize)))
So I do not even know how to make export ...
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Syvis wrote:How do I imput stats for example for Radko Gudas as he played for Kladno's U18 and U20 teams in 2006-2007 season? Do I just add them together or what? They have two junior teams (HC Kladno Jrs. and Pracovni zalohy Kladno Jrs) but I'm not sure if either of those are the U18 team.
I've checked in the Pre Game Editor:
  • HC Kladno Jrs. play in the Czech Jnr League A
  • Pracovni zalohy Kladno Jrs play in the Czech Junior League
Both leagues have an upper age limit of 20.

I don't really know the difference between the two (perhaps somebody with knowledge of the Czech leagues might be able to clarify). However, I looked on Google and it looks like the Pracovni zalohy Kladno Jrs are U-18. Presumably HC Kladno Jrs are U-20.

So I would add the U-18 data for Pracovni zalohy Kladno Jrs and the U-20 data for HC Kladno Jrs.

If it is wrong then we can always change it in the future.
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Stastny26 wrote:when i click on the button entitled Export Career History program generates an error, something about the impossibility to use fractions in text files.
I think the problem in this

Russian computer does not recognize the specific Czech, Swedish, Finnish letters, well, or just my computer does not recognize)))
So I do not even know how to make export ...
The player/team/competition names are purely cosmetic. The name data is not exported when you click on the Export button and anyway those letters don't cause a problem.

Could you take a screenshot of the error message so I can try and figure it out? If we can't get it to work then just email the accde file to me and I can export the data instead. :thup:
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Archi, I can't enter anything into the box to change the location of the files at all. I've managed to do a work around anyways so no worries.
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archibalduk wrote:
Stastny26 wrote:when i click on the button entitled Export Career History program generates an error, something about the impossibility to use fractions in text files.
I think the problem in this

Russian computer does not recognize the specific Czech, Swedish, Finnish letters, well, or just my computer does not recognize)))
So I do not even know how to make export ...
The player/team/competition names are purely cosmetic. The name data is not exported when you click on the Export button and anyway those letters don't cause a problem.

Could you take a screenshot of the error message so I can try and figure it out? If we can't get it to work then just email the accde file to me and I can export the data instead. :thup:
I can give a screenshot, but there is a description in Russian language
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Unfortunately I still get that message..I have Microsoft Office Starter 2010 if that makes any sense.
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an online translator translated the description of the error so - The cause of this error is the inability to start the event due to violation of logic event. For example, if property of the form "discovery" is set to = [Field], this error occurs, so expect a macro name or event that should be performed when you activate the event.
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Stastny26 wrote:I can give a screenshot, but there is a description in Russian language
Ah! :D Ok, add all of your data and then email the accde file to me.
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Reave wrote:Unfortunately I still get that message..I have Microsoft Office Starter 2010 if that makes any sense.
Did the Hotfix make any difference? Do you have Office Service Pack 1 installed (I mean the SP for Office rather than the Runtime SP)? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2460049

Do you have Office Starter 32 or 64 bit? If you have the 64 bit then I guess it might be worth trying the x64 / 64 bit Runtime.

The error is caused because either SP1 isn't installed or there is some incompatibility with the Visual Basic macros.
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archibalduk wrote:
Reave wrote:Unfortunately I still get that message..I have Microsoft Office Starter 2010 if that makes any sense.
Did the Hotfix make any difference? Do you have Office Service Pack 1 installed (I mean the SP for Office rather than the Runtime SP)? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2460049

Do you have Office Starter 32 or 64 bit? If you have the 64 bit then I guess it might be worth trying the x64 / 64 bit Runtime.

The error is caused because either SP1 isn't installed or there is some incompatibility with the Visual Basic macros.
i have Office Starter 32 bit and i installed

1) Access 2010 Runtime
2) Runtime SP1

Nothing else is installed, I had something else to install?
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Stastny26 wrote:i have Office Starter 32 bit and i installed

1) Access 2010 Runtime
2) Runtime SP1

Nothing else is installed, I had something else to install?
You could try this: http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Microsoft ... 86_zip.exe

But I don't think it will fix your problem - but it may fix Reave's.
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archibalduk wrote: Did the Hotfix make any difference? Do you have Office Service Pack 1 installed (I mean the SP for Office rather than the Runtime SP)? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2460049

Do you have Office Starter 32 or 64 bit? If you have the 64 bit then I guess it might be worth trying the x64 / 64 bit Runtime.

The error is caused because either SP1 isn't installed or there is some incompatibility with the Visual Basic macros.
Hotfix did not make any difference and SP1 for both Office and Runtime is installed. Its a 32-bit office.

edit* I will try this on my laptop aswell, which is a Win-XP.
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archibalduk wrote:
Stastny26 wrote:i have Office Starter 32 bit and i installed

1) Access 2010 Runtime
2) Runtime SP1

Nothing else is installed, I had something else to install?
You could try this: http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/Microsoft ... 86_zip.exe

But I don't think it will fix your problem - but it may fix Reave's.
Nothing helps.
When I finish all do, I'll send the accde file to you.

We have a lot of time until the next update 4.1?
If yes,i can finish all KHL players history until January 10.
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I can't find Sweden Olympics in the league column, what should I choose? (It's for Damiel Alfredsson 2009 Olympics)
Not sure if it's Div something?
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Stastny26 wrote:We have a lot of time until the next update 4.1?
If yes,i can finish all KHL players history until January 10.
I won't release 4.1 before then due to the holidays so please help out with the KHL teams. Some are already done, see earlier posts in the thread
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Okey, seems like it works on the laptop, no message :thup:

However.. Just like stone169 I can't change CSV Data Location, which worked fine on the other computer. (I got it in a folder on desktop)

Edit: It worked with pressing tab button. Time to get some work done ;)
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kabbott50 wrote:NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Boston - Archi
Buffalo - kabbott50

Calgary - Archi
Carolina - AaronRStanley
Chicago - bobmcgoo
Colorado - kabbott50
Columbus - stone169
Dallas - Syvis

Detroit - DoubleB
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes
Florida - Syvis
Los Angeles - MacPhal
Minnesota Wild - Asbeen
Montreal - jobiol
Nashville - Myhthrell
NY Islanders - Isles22
NY Rangers - bobmcgoo
New Jersey - stone169
Ottawa - Asbeen
Philadelphia - kabbott50
Phoenix - Syvis
Pittsburgh - Smetana
San Jose - bobmcgoo
St. Louis - Duff88
Tampa Bay - Syvis
Toronto - AaronRStanley
Vancouver - stone169
Washington - AaronRStanley
Winnipeg - Archi

AHL
Albany - stone169
Adirondack - kabbott50
Binghamton - Asbeen
Bridgeport Sound Tigers - Isles22
Chicago - stone169
Connecticut - bobmcgoo
Grand Rapids - DoubleB
Lake Erie - kabbott50
Milwaukee - Myhthrell
Norfolk - Syvis
Oklahoma City - WallyWallcakes
Portland - Syvis
Rochester - kabbott50
Rockford - bobmcgoo
San Antonio - Syvis
Springfield - stone169
St. John's - kabbott50
Texas - Syvis
Toronto - AaronRStanley
Wilkes Barre/Scranton - Smetana
Worcester - bobmcgoo

ECHL
Alaska - Gige
Cincinnati - Myhthrell
Elmira - Gige
Greenville - Gige
Gwinnett - Gige
Idaho - Gige
Kalamazoo - Gige
Ontario - Gige
Reading - Gige
Stockton - Gige
South Carolina - Gige
Trenton - Gige


QMJHL
Gatineau Olympiques - Asbeen
Halifax - kabbott50

OHL
Loosie
Barrie Colts
Bellevile Bulls
Brampton Battalion
Erie Otters
Guelph Storm
Kingston Frontenacs
Kitchener Rangers
London Knights
Mississauga St. Michael's Majors
Niagara Ice Dogs
Oshawa Generals
Ottawa 67s
Owen Sound Attack
Peterborough Petes
Plymouth Whalers
Saginaw Spirit
Sarnia Sting
Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds
Sudbury Wolves
Windsor Spitfires

DEL
Augsburg - kabbott50
Berlin - kabbott50
DEG Metro Stars - kabbott50

Russian KHL
Ak Bars Kazan - Stastny26
Atlant - Stastny26

Avangard Omsk - Stastny26
Dinamo Riga - ThunderWolf

Salavat Yulaev - Stastny26
SKA - Stastny26
Spartak Moscow - Stastny26

Slovakian Extraliga
HC Dukla Trenčín
HK mesta Zvolen
HK Nitra
HK Orange 20
HK Poprad
MHC Mountfield Martin
MsHK DOXXbet Žilina
MaToS87


Swedish Elitserien
AIK - Reave
Brynäs - Reave
Djurgården - Reave
Frölunda - Reave
Färjestad - Reave
HV71 - Reave
Linköping - Reave
Luleå - Reave
Modo - Reave
Skellefteå - Reave
Timrå - Reave
Växjö - Reave

Finnish SM-League
ArtZi/Myhthrell (I guess you can decide amongst yourselves who will do what team)
Espoo Blues - ArtZi
Lahden Pelicans - ArtZi


All league/competition histories
Archi (thanks to some help from Lazion)
Phoenix done. I'll do the farm teams for Dallas, Phoenix and Florida also.
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Asbeen wrote:I can't find Sweden Olympics in the league column, what should I choose? (It's for Damiel Alfredsson 2009 Olympics)
Not sure if it's Div something?
We are not entering international career statistics at the moment because I haven't added this capability to the Editor yet. Let's just concentrate on league career histories for the moment. We can revisit international histories at a later date. :)
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Reave wrote:Okey, seems like it works on the laptop, no message :thup:

However.. Just like stone169 I can't change CSV Data Location, which worked fine on the other computer. (I got it in a folder on desktop)

Edit: It worked with pressing tab button. Time to get some work done ;)
Way to go! :thup: I was going to suggest an alternative method using Excel (it would be more complex / less user friendly) but I won't now you have it sorted.

Thanks for the tip about pressing Tab. I'll make sure that is included in the final readme.
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Manimal wrote:
Stastny26 wrote:We have a lot of time until the next update 4.1?
If yes,i can finish all KHL players history until January 10.
I won't release 4.1 before then due to the holidays so please help out with the KHL teams. Some are already done, see earlier posts in the thread
Stastny - just to clarify that in the Editor and Manimal Rosters, the KHL is still known as the Russian Superleague. So for the KHL histories, use the Russian Superleague as the league name.
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