Offical Tactics Thread: Powerplay & Penalty Kill

francis246 · Post by **francis246** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:00 pm

Does any body know any good Penalty Kill tactics for a Jr. Team. I'm the swift Current Broncos in my second season using the newest lidas roster update. Some stars I have are Tony Rajala, Carter Ashton and Joel Champagne. And others. I'm first in the WHL as it's coming to a close, but my Penalty Kill has been awful.

banger2 · Post by **banger2** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:32 pm

set 1/3/1, named umbrella in this game, left d is playmaker and joins rush , right d is left handed shooter
and doesnt join rush, left winger right handed shooter, him and all other set on join rush and best center with carry puck. If you dont have carriers then dump. Tempo LOW , passing normal, shooting heavy. Now the most important thing is to put whole line on same heavy shooting. Now make rd and lw set on shoot. Now the other important thing, if whole line has heavy shooting one player with normal shooting will setup others!!So put LD on normal shooting. Now that is a start. Further you can play with it , make LD selective with his shoot and net guy normal. So now you have an opening down low and at point. Another option is to make the center a secondary playmaker with normal shooting and ld with selective , rest heavy. This is very cool cause it transforms to overload when center goes in behind the net towards corner.
This can all be used in even strength too, with centre on selective and let say lidstrom on point with normal as secondary playmaker, rest on heavy.
Enjoy some PP success!

banger2 · Post by **banger2** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:44 pm

Ouh yes i forgot to mention , dont mix various tempo for different players in any line in your setup. Use forecheck in synergy with your setup and neutral zone entry. So if grouped check on halfboards with 3 2 and if positional go with positional high forecheck for deep entry. If you dont carry the puck make one of your wingers have higher dump then others in line so he is a safe and goto dump option. This is best suited for the go to the net guy on centres backhand. Furthermore he can have some more puck pressure so he leads forecheck , maybe some safe passing for board hugging and grinding.

banger2 · Post by **banger2** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:25 am

Ok best PP settings ever, tempo very low, passing very safe, dumping very rarely or rarely, center carries, all join rush but rd, positional breakout and neutral. In attacking zone you play 1-3-1 as i explained in post above, all on heavy shooting exept playmaker on selective and centre on normal, rd and lw on offside for one timers and set on shoot.
Note that i had a very skilled team with Mule going on net and results are around 24%, with most of the goals will come from deflections and perfectly executed one timer from any player in lineup, so i am darn sure this is the ultimate way to play man advantige.
enjoy

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:47 pm

Interesting setup! I'll give it a shot. I'm playing around with a not-very-talented team but it's still worth trying.

banger2 · Post by **banger2** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:17 pm

Same here
after lifting the cup with Toronto on lidas 2.2 now i try to do somthing with Islanders! I found them clicking with very low tempo very safe passing and normal dumping with Moulsen on net,Weight on lw on pass, tavares mid slot , Streit rd shooter and i got Quinsey to qb as my only trade so far. Tavaras isnt good enough yet to be on point pass and shoot wise. In Toronto game did only 5 trades with only M Koivu big name signing. In playoffs i had somthing like 25% pp and played a shotdown dumping style.
JSG MVP 92,4 regular 92,2 playoffs or somthing like that. If you like playing chipchase game get Greg Moore, that guy had to have troubled childhood the way he bangs.

morsy · Post by **morsy** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:29 pm

Can anyone help me with my penalty killing? At the moment it's only 78%.

Units are:

Goc - Ortmeyer
Bouillon - Hamhuis

Tambellini - Scatchard
Suter - Weber

Ortmeyer
Bouillon - Hamhuis

Scatchard
Suter - Weber

I'm not a tactical wiz, so any help is appreciated how to set them up right.

peacefrogdog · Post by **peacefrogdog** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:15 pm

Just started playing EHM 07 after playing 05 for years. did a search for this but couldn't find an answer.

Playing as the Sens. My PP is working well with a % of 20-22%. However I seem to give up way too many SH goals. I have by far the least PP opportunities than other teams (have around 60% the PP opportunities as the next team), but give up a SH goal roughly every 3-4 games.

My PP tactics are:
Very offensive
Agressiveness: normal
Backchecking: normal
Gap: very tight
Puck : very heavy
Hitting: normal
Tempo: high
passing: normal
shooting: selective
Dumpin: normal

Breakout: free flow
neut off: grouped
Umbrella
Forecheck; posit high
1-2-2-
Def zone: positional
off face off: point shot
def: basic

I traded for Doughtly, who is the playmaker and set to pass. I have a stud fictional player as LD set to shoot (off attributes between 17-19 across the board), alfredsson on LW, Spezza as C and Lucic (traded for him) on RW.

I don't view the game but haven't had a chance to see how they are scoring the SH goals, but ones I've seen have been off blocked shots leading to a breakway.

I've tried making shooting more selective, but it doesn't make a difference.

Any recommendations on how to minimize SH goals scored against me? I don't think it's because of my players so hoping some tactics changes will help.

Thanks in advance.

RomaGoth · Post by **RomaGoth** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:59 pm

Does anyone know of a way to limit shorthanded goals against? I have given up 12 already in just 40 games, and it is ridiculous. My PK% is pretty good at 89% too....

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:12 pm

Maybe slow down the tempo on your PP? Also, watch your passing. Maybe sure you don't have guys passing "creative" or "adventurous" if they don't have the attributes to back it up.

banger2 · Post by **banger2** » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:16 am

MOD I cracked the game so to speak. This has to be the most underrated game ever. The catch is to set dumping for your players in a skale mode. Who should handle the puck most has rearly, and lets say screen has very often. You can scale whole lineup with difrrent frequency of dump or whar ever you come up with. Now the other thing is to set shooting individualy, and make combos of dumping and shooting. Often dumping and often shooting is passive go to guy, and often dumping and rearly shooting is best for the guy on net. Playmaker should have rearly dump and rearly shoot with shooting tendency. I ll show how i made my setup, thoug i guess there is a lot of combos.
I used 1-3-1 called umbrella by mistake, The key is to have RD with left shot and set to shoot with rearly dump and selective shoot and set him for playmeker role. He should alse carry puck. Now LD is right handed and shoots more freely and dumps more, he is the middle man between RD and LW. LW is our other play, he shoul be also more picky and dumping less, carry he can also. He must be right handed. Centre ice is the pig in the middle, Often dump , mindless barage and right handed prefered. RW can have a role of screen or a role of low option and must be left handed. Tempo is high , passing normal , but you can play with this.
Totlay different game expirience after this.
enjoy

RomaGoth · Post by **RomaGoth** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:57 am

banger2 wrote:MOD I cracked the game so to speak. This has to be the most underrated game ever. The catch is to set dumping for your players in a skale mode. Who should handle the puck most has rearly, and lets say screen has very often. You can scale whole lineup with difrrent frequency of dump or whar ever you come up with. Now the other thing is to set shooting individualy, and make combos of dumping and shooting. Often dumping and often shooting is passive go to guy, and often dumping and rearly shooting is best for the guy on net. Playmaker should have rearly dump and rearly shoot with shooting tendency. I ll show how i made my setup, thoug i guess there is a lot of combos.
I used 1-3-1 called umbrella by mistake, The key is to have RD with left shot and set to shoot with rearly dump and selective shoot and set him for playmeker role. He should alse carry puck. Now LD is right handed and shoots more freely and dumps more, he is the middle man between RD and LW. LW is our other play, he shoul be also more picky and dumping less, carry he can also. He must be right handed. Centre ice is the pig in the middle, Often dump , mindless barage and right handed prefered. RW can have a role of screen or a role of low option and must be left handed. Tempo is high , passing normal , but you can play with this.
Totlay different game expirience after this.
enjoy

Perhaps your English is not so good, but I have no idea what you just said.

danzoeee · Post by **danzoeee** » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:53 pm

Im playing these in the PP;

Kronwall Green; Ovechkin Bäckström Cole (and im paying; offensive deak- shoot from the line) Green is tearing teams apart when he shoots.. he's ranked 15 @ points in the whole league..Both kronwall and green is doing great, they are ranked 1 & 2 in the d-men score league.

Regehr Seabrook ; Marleau Backlund Semin are doing great also.. I actually think they are doing better @ PP then my 1st line, dont know..

My training is 60 - 20 - 20

PP; 19% and my PK is like 85% .. i've to do something about my pk

anyone knows how to improve PK?

any tactics?

harmonica · Post by **harmonica** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:03 pm

My PK runs at 90% and PP at 25% or higher.

I have training set to 40 - 30 - 30. Should there be issues I will take 10 out of general and throw it in to one or the other. By the end of the season I am normally at 30 - 35 - 35.

Reduce the ice time to 30 seconds for each shift. Take off a play maker off your PK as it doesn't matter. Other tips is play diamond as most goals come down low. Zone defense. Tempo at the highest, safest passes for Dmen, safe for forwards. Strong guys should be in front of your net. I also leave hitting on normal for dmen, as I don't want them going for big hits and leaving their position. Forwards can also be kept on the highest tempo, while dmen are lower, so they are more stationary. Also, having a top notch faceoff man is very important, you need to win those draws.

MKoivuFan · Post by **MKoivuFan** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:08 am

I want to improve my players on the PK and PP anyone know of any good tactics to use for the PK and PP

Post by **timmy_t** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:38 pm

MKoivuFan wrote:I want to improve my players on the PK and PP anyone know of any good tactics to use for the PK and PP

Yes! Go through this whole thread from the beginning and you'll be a PK/PP master!

Firebird350 · Post by **Firebird350** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:40 am

danzoeee wrote:Im playing these in the PP;

Kronwall Green; Ovechkin Bäckström Cole (and im paying; offensive deak- shoot from the line) Green is tearing teams apart when he shoots.. he's ranked 15 @ points in the whole league..Both kronwall and green is doing great, they are ranked 1 & 2 in the d-men score league.

Regehr Seabrook ; Marleau Backlund Semin are doing great also.. I actually think they are doing better @ PP then my 1st line, dont know..

My training is 60 - 20 - 20

PP; 19% and my PK is like 85% .. i've to do something about my pk

anyone knows how to improve PK? any tactics?

Who is your head coach? Ive noticed a defensive minded coach with a high rating in coaching defensive skills will do wonders for your PK. You can read through the rest of this thread for more detailed info on tactics, but when I hired Mariusz Czerkawski as head coach of my Maple Leafs (his coaching defencemen attribute is 19) it vaulted my penalty killing to tops in the league. Its the first time Ive ever finished 1st place in PKing.

coaching staff makes a world of difference

wildiowafan · Post by **wildiowafan** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:35 am

Ok help a guy stop feeling stupid. I'm trying to understand the "sticks in" and which handed players go where. I had been looking at the Unit Tactics screen that shows the 5 players on the ice. On that screen it shows all the sticks pointed in. however, if I click "show positioning" its exactly the opposite. is it the "show positioning" screen I want to be looking at?

Flying_Buffalo26 · Post by **Flying_Buffalo26** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:17 am

wildiowafan wrote:Ok help a guy stop feeling stupid. I'm trying to understand the "sticks in" and which handed players go where. I had been looking at the Unit Tactics screen that shows the 5 players on the ice. On that screen it shows all the sticks pointed in. however, if I click "show positioning" its exactly the opposite. is it the "show positioning" screen I want to be looking at?

Yes, exactly - the "show positioning" screen is of interest for you, you can forget about the standard screen showing just the 5 players with their name ( set it on offensive movement and put the puck somewhere in the offensive zone) ---->>> then you will see this if I am guessing right that you are playing with the excellent diamond (?) formation?

It looks like this:

------------0_i----i_O------
----------Center--RW------
-----O_i---------------i_O----
----LW-----------------RD-----
--------------i_O_i-------------
---------------LD----------------

O_i (>>Right handed) - i_O (>> Left handed)

I personally prefer to have the LD as a left handed player as I sometimes use a playmaker on the LW but ALWAYS a shooter on the RD position and therefor the LD should preferably get the puck to a left handed shooter on the RD position to fire the puck on net and get some goals or at least some promising rebounds.

If you have any question that were not mentioned in this thread or you don't understand completly, please feel free to ask. I will help as much as I can. Good luck developing your league-killing PP tactics until then!

wildiowafan · Post by **wildiowafan** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:01 am

Thanks Flying_Buffalo26

I've spent a lot of time reading this thread, but the handedness always threw me off.

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:45 pm

Peterman5000 wrote:People who have problems with PK....

Get a couple of defenseman with 15+ in stamina, workrate and pokecheck.

Set them to play very defensive, easy backchecking, easy hitting, slow tempo, dump very often.

the key setting...........

VERY SAFE PASSING, and make sure your goalie is set to very safe passing also.

It will help alot - have one forward set to normal play and the other a similar setup to your defensmen, i usually tone it up a bit, like defensive and normal tempo.

BTW Peterman, I changed my setting as such above and used the best possible Dmen as you described (attributes you pointed out) since I have used your advice above I have gone from 30th in PK pct....to 15th and its only been about 10 games. This really seems to work. And because my PK was sooooo bad where I would take a 3-0 lead and always give up 2-5 Shorthanded goals.....the improvment has also put me into a playoff spot now.

GUys, if you are having issues try this above and it really works. Jut need to be a bit patient at the start in the event it takes a few games to show the rewards.

Thanks PPetterman

Post by **jesterx7769** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:12 am

Do position capabilities matter on powerplay? I see people describing where to put playmakers and shooters and getting sticks in toward net but most time it doesn't fit with my current team.

Post by **batdad** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:43 pm

They can make a difference. I would never put someone without at least some capability in a position they are not used to, and not practicing. However, it depends on so many other things how succesful players are in each situation. Team, line, individual tactics...coaching...

Rule of thumb in this game...no one thing is responsible for success. Several things contribute and several things can diminish.

conq · Post by **conq** » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:31 pm

How can I reduce the amount of short handed goals allowed?

I've been in the bottom 5 nearly every season conceding like 10-15 goals a season.

Post by **timmy_t** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:21 am

There are a couple of things that come into play with short handed goals. The first is that you need to come to the realization that you won't ever be perfect, so maybe cutting them in half will be a more acceptable goal at first.

With that in mind, you might want to stay away from the Umbrella and Diamond PPs because they both leave a lone defenseman at the point. As soon as a penalty killer blocks his shot up high they can recover and be off to the races before your other guys know what to do. Once you're using some PP formations with two defensemen, try setting one of them (the passing one that's not the playmaker) to a more defensive-minded setting. This could be either Neutral or Offensive instead of Very Offensive, or it could be Defensive. Also set this d-man to a Relaxed Gap and Very Hard Backchecking. This way he'll start to go back towards the defensive zone as fast as possible and hopefully keep a good gap between him and the opposing player looking to score short handed.

Try those setting and let us know how it goes.

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