The Official TBL Practice Thread

Post by **timmy_t** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:25 am

I've actually seen young players' attributes go from green to neutral when they "permanently" gained a point in the attribute. The best way to track them over time is screen shots or a spreadsheet.

Post by **batdad** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:27 am

Hmm...never noticed that. Toews certainly never had anything that went back to neutral color after going green. So I am not sure about that.

V4ND3RP00L · Post by **V4ND3RP00L** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:39 am

I will probably just do the screen shot setup to see if I can notice what goes on with a player during the year and actually their career.

It'll probably take me awhile to get some good information.

Post by **timmy_t** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:52 am

Just a followup to my post:

I've actually seen young players' attributes go from green to neutral when they "permanently" gained a point in the attribute.

Alexei Kaigorodov started the season with a 14 in faceoffs. About mid-season his faceoffs went to 15, and was green in the practice screen. By the end of the season, his faceoffs stayed 15, but went to neutral.

Start of season

Mid-season

End of season

After taking these screenshots I also noticed that his hitting went from 7 to 8 permanently.

Post by **batdad** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:02 am

Cool. Never paid attention to that

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:08 am

Well that answers that question for sure then. Thanks!

Post by **timmy_t** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:20 am

I'm glad I could help.

Now my next question is what actually makes the increase permanent?

Any ideas

salkeld · Post by **salkeld** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:38 pm

Quick practice question: I GM Sudbury Wolves in the OHL, my oldest players are 20 years old (obviously), should I be able to train my players harder (more categories on Intense) as their youth should be able to cope with it?
Or would they be prone to more injuries, like in the NHL etc?

Any advice or proposed schedules would be welcome

marijnschouten · Post by **marijnschouten** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:54 am

Hello EHM fans,

I have a problem wiht assigning players to a specific practice.
Sometimes the game assigns for example Shanahan for Defensive skills along with Roszival so one of them is trained for another position.
When I assign Shanahan to another training it's okay, but when I click OK and play on with the game and check the practice 1 day later he's back at Defensive skills.......

Does anyone know how to fix this??

Thanx a lot!!!!

thunderbug · Post by **thunderbug** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:00 am

go into your gm options and make sure you've selected to not allow the coach to run practice.

marijnschouten · Post by **marijnschouten** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:51 am

Thunderbug, you're the MAN!!!!!!!!!
Thanx a lot!!!!!!!!!!

Franck · Post by **Franck** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:50 am

What would be the easiest way of giving your players good practice without too much micro-management?

I've seen people mention 3 intensive 3 medium in this thread but I havn't really seen which training set it is they have as intensive.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:28 pm

You can't really leave the same three areas set to intensive and the same three set to medium. It's something that you have to switch up at least every couple months. You may want fitness, skating, and shooting set to intensive for your forwards early in the season but then you may want shooting, offensive skills, and tactics set to intensive a little bit later. If you just put three areas on intensive and leave them there, it's going to stunt your player's development. He'll stagnate in those areas that you're working and his other areas will never develop. If you want to develop your players you really do have to pay attention to your training.

thunderbug · Post by **thunderbug** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:15 pm

As bruins mentioned, you need to switch things up or you won't really see much production. Just like in real life ehm players get bored if they practice the same way for their entire career.

Jokerit · Post by **Jokerit** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:12 pm

I am wondering if those who are experts in EHM 07 have noticed a difference in improving players quicker/easier than in EHM 05. I noticed that in 05 regens usually return with awful physical attributes that seemingly never improve to original standards.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:33 pm

It's been a very long time since I've played EHM05 but the one thing I've noticed in EHM07 is that the regen tend to have lower mental abilities if anything.

Coyote of the Sea · Post by **Coyote of the Sea** » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:41 pm

has it been shown that an all intensive off-season schedule can affect a team down the road? i've been running it but i don't want to wear my guys out for the playoff run next year.

Other then that ive been using this set-up and it seems to be doing pretty good, i have basically 2 different offensive trainings, 2 different Defense trainings, 2 different Two-Way trainings, and 2 different Goalie trainings

Offensive-1
Skating, Shooting, Off Skill=Intensive
Conditioning, Tactics, Def Skill=Medium

Offensive-2
Shooting, Off Skill, Tactic=Intensive
Conditioning, Skating, Def Skill=Medium

Defense-1
Tactic, Off, Def=Intensive
Cond, Skate, Shoot, Goal=Med

D-2
Skating, Tactic, Def=Intensive
Cond, Off, Shoot, Goal=Med

Two Way-1
Shoot, Off, Def=Intensive
Cond, Skate, Tactic, Goal=med

Two-Way-2
Skating, Shoot, Off=Intensive
Cond, Tactic, Def, Goal=Med

Basically from training camp to December the Offensive player do the Offense-1 traing, Defense guys do the D-1 training and Two-Ways do the TW-1 training

I started this year that from December to March the Offense guys do the D-1 training, the D-1 Guys do the O-1 training

From December to Off-Season the Goalies go to their Goalie-2 training and the Two-way guys go to their TW-2 training.

Once we get to march, we run the guys who started as O-1 guys into the O-2 training, the guys started as D-1 guys go to D-2. that goes till we get knocked out or miss the playoffs then everyone goes into the All Int training.

Good, bad, neutral?

cdnsk8tr · Post by **cdnsk8tr** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:41 pm

i've got a question. would changing the practice area, say from 60/20/20 to 80/10/10, during the offseason affect the way their attributes change because as much as the pk and pp are important, doing it during the offseason it seems kinda pointless or does the practice area affect which skills improve?
any suggestions?

harmonica · Post by **harmonica** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:53 am

As soon as the season is over I switch to 80/10/10, if I am happy with the special teams over the past year. A month before training camp I bump it back up to 60/20/20. Over the season, I eventually get it up to 40/30/30, or more if needed.

It seems like I have noticed players developing better with more points in general practice.

matt44 · Post by **matt44** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:27 pm

Does anyone have a link to the original 3 INTS 3 MEDS practice post?

I think it was on another board but someone must have it. It was a really ineteretsing read and gave a great breakdown of the system.

Would be very grateful if anyoen has a link or can email it?

rockinit · Post by **rockinit** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:48 am

Happy 2009 everybody.

I just started a new game and am about 4 months into the NHL season. So far, I'm happy with my player's improvements in their Skill attributes (+1 or +2), but their Physical attributes are on the decline (-1 or -2).

Has anyone encountered this before? What can I do turn their Physical attributes around?

Background info:
- I put a "conditioning based" coach with respectable motivation and discipline attributes on conditioning and skating training.
- I put my players through "intense" condit. and skating training on most non-gamedays.
- My young players are going through the same Physical decline; so I don't believe this is a natural progression.

Post by **batdad** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:20 am

Skating is technical AND conditioning. I always use a General coach here.

Just because a conditioning based coach is there, does not mean that he will work with the players you have. He may suck at teaching forwards or he may suck at teaching D. .. the practice regime you have your players in may be one they don't like or don't do well with.

There are 100 reasons that it may not work. Motivation/Discipline may not work well in this case with your players. YOungsters dropping..is he any good with kids?

I could list 10000 reasons, but without knowing the coach or the players stuff individually I cannot give an answer.

If you switch practice regimes over and over for your players..they get confused, not better.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:25 pm

You definitely want to leave your players on one practice regime for a while. I usually keep them on one for about a month and then switch them. I like to have them on intense fitness in the preseason and sometimes even the first month of the season and then put the fitness on medium for a while and go intensive with something else.

Phareux · Post by **Phareux** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:21 am

i have the first 4 pages of that post. it was posted on the SI forums "powered by eve" but it is no longer available. does anyone have the rest of the pages? it was originally posted by malhotra44.

Post by **batdad** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:50 am

What post?

The Official TBL Practice Thread

Practice

declining physical attributes

3 med 3 int practice