TBL NHL/ECHL/Canada/UK/Fin/Swe Roster Update 07/08

Post by **Calv** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:26 pm

with most teams nearing completion I have the EIHL & EPIHL up to date, although there seem to be a fair few players who are yet to find clubs this season

Post by **archibalduk** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:02 pm

Obviously even though the research for these leagues have been done, it will be some time before we integrate all of this research into our roster update project. Once we have finished the NHL and it is running satisfactorily we can then move onto one of the other leagues/countries and add that update. It's going to be a fairly lengthy process but I think it'll be worth it

Froese · Post by **Froese** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:04 pm

so what is the ETA for seeing the SEL from EHM? I'm this close to just getting the rosters from eliteprospects myself and just doing a patch job to use the correct rosters but don't want to do that if you guys are going to have something soon...

Post by **Lidas** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:01 am

As for the SEL and Allsvenskan;

I have created a list of 626 transfers to be made, but I want to check it through a couple of times,
and search for transfers I might have missed.

I also need to go through the staff, but will have finished within a few days.

Then its up to the admins when Ill be given access to the DB in order to edit all the transfers.

Post by **archibalduk** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:10 am

As I said directly above your post, Froese, we want to get the NHL roster in order before working on the other leagues. We have research done for the UK and Swedish leagues (and have nearly finished research for the Finnish leagues) so we've made a lot of progress. It all depends how long it takes to get the NHL rosters working satisfactorily - I don't see how/why there should be a problem with them but you just never know until it's being used by the public.

Gottschlich · Post by **Gottschlich** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:06 pm

SWE-1 (Elitserien) is now complete
It contains:

* Current Rosters for season 07/08
* Current Leaderstab for season 07/08 (It perhaps be missing someone :S)
* Players Contract (length)
* Players Salerys/Year
* Players who left team X from last season to another leauge/team or dont have a contract.

SWE-2 (Allsvenskan) is almost complete:
It contains:

* Current Rosters for season 07/08
* Current Leaderstab for season 07/08 (It perhaps be missing someone :S)
* Players Contract (length)
* Players Salerys/Year

I have left to do:
* Players who left team from X last season to another leauge/team or dont have a contract.

I hope be finished under this weekend

And then Im gonna watch up to date with "fillers" in each team until the day before the first game in the regular series.

Post by **Lidas** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:23 pm

Ive finished all of Sweden (SEL+Allsvenskan, Players+Staff)

Lets compare list to see if there is anything we missed

ukslamjam · Post by **ukslamjam** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:42 pm

I just wanted to say to all that are helping to keep this great game alive and I'm really looking forward to your update. Keep up the great work guys.

Post by **archibalduk** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:08 pm

Download: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/dl ... ile_id=402

This database updates the NHL rosters to the 2007-08 season. Please note this is a BETA VERSION and so the database is still incomplete and is still in the process of being improved. The aim of releasing this as an early beta is to give people a preview of our project and to get feedback on any mistakes and how to improve the project as a whole. This beta version contains rosters updated as of the 3rd September 2007.

Here's an overview of what this database includes so far:

* Updated NHL rosters;
* Over 1030 NHL player contracts updated (both wages and contract length);
* Updated GM, Assistant GM and Head Coach movements;
* Updated salary cap and salary floor;
* NHL players traded to Europe (NHL player rights are retained for those that left as RFAs);
* NHL player retirements;
* Draft pick trades;
* Correct draft picks that NHL teams had in the 2007 Draft (i.e.which round picks they had. Not what players they drafted);
* Based on TBL:DB version 1.0 by Devils88;
* Includes TBL:DB 1.1 extra_config.cfg college commitments.

Here's a list of things still to do:

* Keep the rosters up-to-date upto the 29th September (when the NHL season begins);
* Include new/extended contracts since the 20th August;
* Add a number of NHL Assistant GMs that are not in the EHM database (a total of five people);
* Update the NHL uniform colours;
* Include affiliation changes (if possible).

Once we've completed the NHL rosters, we will be working on updating a number of other leagues so that their rosters reflect the beginning of the 2007-08 regular season. Research is well under way on this. Currently we hope (although this is subject to change) to update the following leagues (the names in brackets are the users working on those leagues):

* British EIHL, EPIHL, ENL and SNL (Calv);
* Finnish SM, Mestis and Suomi-Sarja leagues (Tasku);
* Swedish Elite League and Allsvenskan (Lidas & Gottschlich);
* ECHL (Yankeemofo);
* Canadian OHL, QMJHL and WHL (Getzlaf15).

In trying to update the NHL rosters, there were a number of options as to how we could approach this task. Different users want different approaches. We've chosen a certain approach, and we're aware that this approach won't suit everyone. If you're not entirely happy with our approach then there's a number of options you have:

* Take our rosters and modify them to your taste (all we ask is that you give us some credit if you choose to make your edited database publicly available);
* Use the changelist that we have provided on www.ehmtheblueline.com to start your own roster update from scratch;
* Check out other users' projects. Kidhander & co are working on their Unfake Database which will give you the starting rosters for last season (2006-07) with modified attributes. Jan Smetana is working on a saved game that will start in the 2007-08 season (he will sim the 2006-07 season) with NHL rosters correct for that season. You can find more information on their progress on the SI Games' EHM Forums.

Let me try to explain the approach we chose to take:

* We chose to work on a database update, rather than a saved game updated, because it will give the users complete flexibility as to how to setup their game. You can choose exactly what leagues to run and which not to. A saved game does not give you this flexibility. As we chose to make a database update, we were stuck with the 2006 start date. This start date is hard-coded into EHM and so it's not possible to change. Thus our 2007-08 rosters will be running in the 2006-07 in EHM. It's not the best situation but there's nothing that can be done about it (besides, it's only a date!). We feel that the advantages of having a database update, rather than a saved game update, far outweigh the disadvantages. Additionally, it allows us to add other league updates onto this NHL roster update (see the leagues mentioned above) as well as allowing users to customise and further update our rosters.

* Players drafted in the NHL 2007 Draft have not been included in the update. Their rights remain unsigned and they will be eligible for the ingame 2007 Draft. The reason being that if we were to have included these NHL player rights then there would be a lack of talent in the ingame 2007 Draft. This would in turn mean that lesser players (i.e. those that would have been more suitable for subsequent drafts) would be drafted. This could then have knock-on effects for subsequent drafts.

* We have not included prospects signed by NHL teams over the summer. As they're a year younger in EHM than they are in real life, many still need to play in the juniors. Bringing them into the NHL a year early could harm their development.

* We did not modify any player attributes. We don't feel that many people are in a position to judge a player's attributes. We haven't been to see these players play and so our judgements would be without substantial first-hand knowledge of the player's actual abilities. In our opinion, threads where users say Player X should have a much higher stickhandling attribute, Player Y should have a much lower stamina attribute, etc. are of little reliability. How many of those users have actually seen those players to be able to say how a player's attributes should be fine-tuned or greatly improved/worsened?! I don't mean to offend people who disagree - it's just how we at TBL feel about this!

INSTALLATION

Extract the ZIP file to "NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2007\data\database\" (NOTE: ensure that you enable the option to use the directory structure of the ZIP file when extracting. In Winzip this option is called "USE FOLDER NAMES"). Alternatively, if you don't have Winzip then create a new folder called 'tbl_rosters_2007-08_nhl' within your 'database' folder and extract the files into the 'tbl_rosters_2007-08_nhl' folder.

This will place the database files in "NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2007\data\database\tbl_rosters_2007-08_nhl\". If you have made a mistake and accidentally wipe over EHM's default database (the files located directly in the 'database' folder), simply re-apply the 3.0.4 patch to restore the default database.

When starting a new game in EHM you will be presented with the option to choose which database to use. Select 'tbl_rosters_2007-08_nhl' to use the updated database and click on OK.

CREDITS

I'd like to say a great big THANK YOU to all of the users that helped me in making this roster update:

* TBL Admins & Moderators;
* Jackknife77;
* Jason Ponty;
* Lidas;
* MKoivuFan
* Niklas Gottschlich;
* Getzlaf15;

If I missed anyone out, send me a PM and I'll add you to the list! Also, thanks to Mne2 of eastside.co.uk who has created the NHL Pre-Game Editor for all versions of EHM. No update would have been possible without his wonderful editors!

To see a complete CHANGELIST visit: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=40

To report DATA ISSUES (e.g. a mistake or omission) visit: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 3496#43496

Post by **archibalduk** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:44 pm

Beta v0.2 is out now: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/dl ... ile_id=402

Many thanks to everyone that has reported mistakes and omissions. Please keep them coming!

New to this version:
* Rosters up-to-date as of 6th September 2007;
* Contracts up-to-date as of 6th September 2007 (note: there's a typo in the readme file included with the rosters that says they're up-to-date as of 6th August - this is wrong, they're actually correct as of 6th September);
* Added a number of NHL Assistant GMs that are not in the EHM database (a total of five people);
* Included most, if not all, NHL uniform colour changes.

The project now involves keeping the rosters up-to-date until the first NHL game of the season (29th September) as well as correcting any mistakes. We've decided to hold-off updating the affiliate changes for the time being. We might include them after the release of version 1.0.

To see a complete CHANGELIST visit: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=40

Report any DATA ISSUES here: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 3496#43496

Post by **archibalduk** » Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:46 pm

By the way, it's unlikely we'll release another beta version. The next version will be version 1.0, to be released after the 29th September.

Gottschlich · Post by **Gottschlich** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:59 am

I cant wait hohoohoho

Starting to loose it!

:P:P

thunderbug · Post by **thunderbug** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:19 pm

I received the email and just letting you know I am still on board for doing the chl.

Froese · Post by **Froese** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:21 pm

Do you guys have that Ossi Vaananen signed with Djurgardens IF in Sweden for this update?

Post by **Tasku** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:23 pm

Good to hear.

Do you have access to The Research Lab forums?

That's where all the Top-Secret behind the scenes discussion is happening regards to this update.

Post by **Tasku** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:34 pm

You didn't, but you do now

Come on over and we'll try to figure out where you left off discussing the update with Archi.

Post by **Tasku** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:37 pm

Froese wrote:Do you guys have that Ossi Vaananen signed with Djurgardens IF in Sweden for this update?

Yes. Transfers are updated daily until September 29th.

Moorne · Post by **Moorne** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:49 pm

Great job you guys have done! I was just wondering... will the latest db be released today? if not, when will it be released? I want to start a new game, but want the newest database before i start.

Keep up the good work!

Post by **getzlaf15** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:10 pm

First of all welcome to TBL Moorne, be sure to mark your territory in the Arrivals thread,

Regarding the database, it should be ready over the next couple of weeks, but that will just be the NHL update, on my side of things, i have done the WHL, QMJHL, and OHL (nearly), but i will have to wait for the NHL update for me to start mine, if you understand

Thanks for the compliments

Getz

Post by **Tasku** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:06 pm

Yep, just as Getzlaf said, but I hope to be a bit quicker than a couple of weeks though, but you never know...

Everything else is ready by now, except for NHL staff. When this has been done, we test it, make sure it's all good and then, we'll release version 1.0, which will include only the NHL update for those who're in a hurry and don't really care about any other leagues. And then, a couple of weeks later, depending on how fast we work, version 1.1 will be out, with NHL + all the other leagues we're working on updated.

Post by **Tasku** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:31 am

Just to let everyone know, we are aiming on releasing the first version of this update, which will include updated NHL rosters up to 29th September, within the upcoming weekend...

Drumroll please...

Post by **Lidas** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:39 am

Yay!

Btw, did you set Dan McGillis as an UFA?

Post by **Tasku** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:11 am

That I did

Gottschlich · Post by **Gottschlich** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:13 pm

*Drumroll*

Post by **Lidas** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:38 pm

I'm sure Sweden is gonna be a much more enjoyable league to play one I get my hands on the DB.

Updated rosters, combined with the HUGE facepack Im still working on. Ive passed 1000 cards already, and Im still working...