Lidas Rosters 2008/09 - Mistakes/Omissions/Tweaks/Etc

[Darkfire423]

Lidas as soon as more details come from those guys from the SPHL i will pass them along.

As for the LNAH i am just going to remove the players not in the DB, unless they start to become a break out player as most of the guys are Semi-Pro level guys at best.

[Starcrasher]

Hamilton Bulldogs D Pavel Valenko (Right to Montreal Canadiens) HAve move to Russia for Moscow Dynamo.

Sad!

[johannes]

First of all i want to thank you for the massive work.. Thank you!

There is some erros and fixes from Finnish SM-League.

Arena names changes:

Lukko: Lännen puhelin areeena -> DNA Areena
HPK: Hämeenlinnan jäähalli -> Patria-areena
JYP: Hippos -> Synergia-areena
KalPa: Kuopion jäähalli -> Niiralan Monttu


Team colours changes:

Lukko
Home:
Foreground yellow 2
Background blue 3
Trim black
Away:
F: yellow 2
B: white
T: blue 3

Kärpät
Home:
F: white
B: black
T: yellow 1
Away:
F: black
B: white
T: yellow 1

Ilves
Away:
F: green1
B: white
T: gold

KalPa:
Home:
F: yellow 1
B: black
T: red 1
Away:
F: black
B: yellow 1
T: red 1

If you need players transfers I can list them too.

Thanks. I changed the arena names, but since TBN has good knowledge about the finnish leagues, I will keep the team colours for now... What do you say, Laz? / Lidas

[dave_is_bliss]

[quote="Lidas"][quote="Moorne"]Spent a little time with the roster yesterday and found som things to fix, if you want to:

Thomas Johansson, Sweden (free agent in the roster) have retired.
Jacob Markström, Brynas IF, needs a boost, here is what i think:
Positioning: 14
Blocker: 12
Glove: 14
Recovery: 12
Rebound control: 12
Reflexes: 11
(I also think that CA/HR/CR should be around 110/105/115)

I can also post the correct shirt numbers for players in the Swedish Elitserien. But as your surely know these can be found on the teams homepages or at hockeyligan.se if you want.

One more thing. When I start a game the teamlogos for Djurgardens IF and Frolunda HC is missing. Is there a way to get them back to the game?[/quote]

I have already retired Johansson - the good ppl at EHMSweden told me about that.
I'm not sure how to handle Markstrom... He is really good for sure, but he was "only" drafted in the second round. Giving him a CA of 110 would put him way over Stamkos, Doughty, Bogosian and the others... maybe all NHL-scouts were mistaken :dunno:

As for the logos - I renamed Djurgarden and Frolunda, so you will need to rename their logo-files in order to see them in the game.[/quote]

Lidas - thanks for making this update. I am using it and appreciate the work that went into it. I left a couple of suggestions on the SI forum.

I would respectfully suggest you think again about the rookies. The last three years the top 5 rookies have averaged:

1st 88 points
2nd 83
3rd 61
4th 53
5th 48

If your top rookie is under 100 CA, I highly doubt they will hit close to 70+ points. And that fails to consider the rookie defencemen who can play top 4 minutes like Phaneuf. While I appreciate it is difficult, in the absence of history, to figure out which rookies are going to hit these kind of points, or play seriously well as rookie defenseman, I think for the game to be realistic, an update should look at the various forecasts of the hockey forecasters and take a leap of faith, knowing that some will be wrong but, at the end of the year if the top rookie scorers have points something like the above that overall the game is holding true to the expereince of the new NHL. Even if you want to be conservative at set the bar a little lower (e.g. 70-75 points for the top rookie scorer, 60-65 for second, etc.) I think the average CA of players delivering 70-75 points in the game is higher than 100, probably significantly higher.

my two cents....

[joehelmer]

A big profile in swedish hockey, Magnus Wernblom, has retired.

He's the player who has got most penalty minutes in Elitserien, but also the player who has scored most goals in Elitserien after the greatest player in Elitserien ever, Håkan Loob. Thanks for these years Magnus.

I retired him as soon as I saw the news. / Lidas

[Raymondo316]

Jerome Flaake (Leafs prospect) needs to be added.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jerome_flaake
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/1 ... 2008_wjac/

Chris DiDomenico plays for Saint John Sea Dogs (QMJHL) not New York
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/chris_didomenico
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdis ... ?pid=96387

I already had Flaake in, so I just moved DiDomenico. / Lidas

[rottamies]

I found a small one: Kevin Lowe is disliking the wrong Brian Burke. He should be disliking Anaheims Burke, now he's instead disliking Sudbury's Burke. I don't know, if this has any effect on in-game dynamics, but it might. By the way, i like how you've done a lot of these "likes/dislikes" on players, should make the game even more fun.

You're right, it's the wrong Burke. It will be fixed in the next version \ Lidas

[goon64]

Retired Players-

Ryan Vandenbusshe

Players who get signed but shouldn't, so maybe lower stats, some probably have retired, others won't see the NHL again:
Anson Carter
Dave Scatchard
Richard Litner
Joel Bouchard
Reed Low
Grant Marshall
Dan McGillis
Richard Matvichuk Just give him a permanant knee/back/everything injury, teams won't take a chance on him
Nathan Perrott
Clarke Wilm
Cameron Mann
David LeNeveau
Maxime Ouellet
Al Montoya
Deron Quint

Ratings need lowered
Mikael Samuelsson- He's always leading the lead in scoring or up for MVP
Garth Murray


Just trying to make it realistic

Thanks man, did alot of downgrading here / Lidas

[thunderbug]

Hey I'm not sure if you have a newer version and this got fixed, but players rights are expiring early. Some of mine even expired after 1 year after having been drafted the year before.

[batdad]

Check on that. reason I say that t-bug is that in this version...

EXAMPLE:

Patrick Kane would be considered to already have his rights with Chicago for 1 year at the start of the game. IRL he was drafted 2007. Rights for 07-08, 08-09. But in EHM...he would be considered drafted in 2005. Rights would be 05-06, 06-07. Since 06-07 is the first season...well only one year of rights for him left.

However, if this is happening with people YOU drafted in the game...forget what I just said or tried to say.

[thunderbug]

It was 2 of the 2008 draft class IRL. 1 was Daulton Levielle (sp) who ATL drafted with the Pens' pick. He was concentrating on signing with a major junior club and was set up to transfer at end of year, and then I received the notice of his rights expiring in the first offseason. So I try and sign him and his major junior contract blocks that. The other one I managed to sign.

[Alex the Tall]

Lidas, can you tell me how i can help you to make the QHJML roster?

[Lidas]

Lidas, can you tell me how i can help you to make the QHJML roster?

Thanks for offering. You'll need to talk to Falkky about that. He is responsible for the QMHJL research.

[Honnegger]

Lidas, can you sent Kyle McLaren of the San Jose Sharks down to Worcester? It's pretty hard to get a correct Payroll without waving him... He always gets picked though, so you still have to pay 50% for him.

McLellan put him on waivers before the season I think and he cleared them, so it would be realistic if he's on Worcester right from the beginning.

I already have him down there in my 1.1 version. / Lidas

[Moorne]

There is a swedish player named Torbjörn Johansson (35 years old, i think) who always gets a contract with one of the best teams in the swedish Elitserien every time the game starts. Johansson is a former pro-player but hasn´t played any pro-games for many years. It would be fine if you could give him a permanent injury or lower his attributes.

There are a few more 35+ players who gets a contract with the top teams. I'm at work now - but if you want i can take a look at it tonight.

[Lidas]

There is a swedish player named Torbjörn Johansson (35 years old, i think) who always gets a contract with one of the best teams in the swedish Elitserien every time the game starts. Johansson is a former pro-player but hasn´t played any pro-games for many years. It would be fine if you could give him a permanent injury or lower his attributes.

There are a few more 35+ players who gets a contract with the top teams. I'm at work now - but if you want i can take a look at it tonight.

Please do. I want to keep the DB as realistic as possible. Johansson did actually play last season in Norway - but he shouldnt be able to make a comeback in Elitserien.

[Mazumi]

Hello everyone! I was wondering would you guys need some help with finnish leagues? i could get you list of players in mestis.

[thunderbug]

Lidas have you taken a look yet at why the two people's rights expired early?

[Lidas]

Lidas have you taken a look yet at why the two people's rights expired early?

I guess it's because the game doesn't know when the players were drafted - so it can't know when they expire. In order to fix this, I'd need to set the draft year of the drafted players - but then I would have to move back ALL players ever drafted's draft years back two years in order to create space for two additional drafts.

I think this would be too time-consuming, and too risky for the database stability to take on. If I were to miss just one player, it would cause two players to be drafted with the same pick, and I doubt that the game would like that.

I guess we'll just have to live with it, unless someone comes up with a better idea.

[bobmcgoo]

How about just adding them onto the 2006 draft? Say making Kane pick 301, round 10 and Stamkos pick 601, round 20.

I've just tested this by putting Schenn as pick 900 and it worked - so there's plenty of room.

A little bit messy but it's probably the best solution given the limitations, unless the draft overload crashes the game of course.

[Lidas]

How about just adding them onto the 2006 draft? Say making Kane pick 301, round 10 and Stamkos pick 601, round 20.

I've just tested this by putting Schenn as pick 900 and it worked - so there's plenty of room.

A little bit messy but it's probably the best solution given the limitations, unless the draft overload crashes the game of course.

That is an excellent idea. I've gotta try it and see if it works.

[Lidas]

I have a project in mind where I could use some help - NHL Rookies
As it is now, there are WAY too many "rookies" who are not supposed to be rookies anymore. (Malkin, Kane, etc).
I was hoping that someone could help me research this so I can implement it into a future version.

What I need is a list of NHL players who count as rookies in the first playable season, and how many NHL games they had played BEFORE the current season, e.g.

Evgeni Malkin, 160
Patrick Kane, 82
Nicklas Backström, 82

... and so on.

Any takers?

[Lidas]

How about just adding them onto the 2006 draft? Say making Kane pick 301, round 10 and Stamkos pick 601, round 20.

I've just tested this by putting Schenn as pick 900 and it worked - so there's plenty of room.

A little bit messy but it's probably the best solution given the limitations, unless the draft overload crashes the game of course.

That is an excellent idea. I've gotta try it and see if it works.

Done some testing and I believe it works. The player rights will remain for one extra year if I add a draft date.
Some players will still have their rights valid for too long, but better with too long than too short.

[Thricecube]

Here's what I have for ECHL movements.

Alaska
------
Jordan Foreman
Erik Felde
Mike Curry
Robin Richards
Mike Gauthier (born March 26/85)
Ed Hill
Corbin Schmidt
Phillipe Lamoureux (should also be renamed Jean-Phillipe Lamoureux)


Augusta
-------
Chris Lawrence
Brian Ihnacak
Micheal Mullen
Dallas Steward
Matt Auffrey
B.J. Crum
Kevin Quick
Brock Wilson
Cody Blansham
Tim Branham
R.J. Linder
Mike Brodeur


Bakersfield
-----------
Matt Pope
Dale Reinhardt
Mark Derlago
Charlie Kronschnabel
Bobby Bolt
Chad Painchaud
Sean Hurley
Ryan Mahrle
Ryan Nie


Charlotte
---------
Ryan Murphy (born January 23/1981)
Joe Zappala
Jeff Miles
Mike Taylor
Ken Scuderi
Julien Brouillette
Chris Murray


Cincinnati
----------
Jimmy Kilpatrick
Barret Ehgoetz
Michael Cohen
Olivier Latendresse
Thomas Beauregard
Joey Ryan
Paul Lynch
Tom Sawatske
Conrad Martin
Martin Houle
Loic Lacasse
Kyle Gajewski


Dayton
------
Danny Lapointe
Tom Zanoski
Ben Geelan
Les Reaney
Justin Bowers
Jamie Dowhayko
Mike Looby


Elmira
------
Brandon Scero
Paul McIlveen
Tyler Donati
Chris Korchinksi
Moises Gutierrez
Bruce Watson
Joe Grimaldi
Travis Gawryletz
Wes Cunningham
Mitch O'Keefe


Florida
-------
Peter Metcalf
Michael Grenzy
David Leggio


Fresno
------
Oren Eizenman
Matt Stefanishion
Joshua Prudden
Mike Radja
Matt O'Dette
Jerramie Domish
Brennan Turner
Brad Brown
Joe Fallon
Michael Ouzas


Gwinnett
--------
Bryan Esner
Brandon Kaleniecki
Jeff Dunne
Jim Jorgensen
Josh Johnson


Idaho
-----
Matt McKnight
Justin Bourne
Steve Gainey
Bryan McGregor
Riley Weselowski
Kelly Sullivan
Adam Welch
Matt Stephenson


Johnstown
---------
Randy Rowe
Michael Bartlett
Andrew Sarauer
Sean Berkstresser
Jason Spence
Kyle Bushee


Las Vegas
---------
Mike Hamilton (born May 2, 1981)
Mick Lawrence
Tim Spencer
Chris Neiszner
Shawn Limpright
Sean Owens
Brent Krahn


Mississippi
-----------
Mike Nesdill
Bill LeClerc
Kyle Peto
Chris Brooks
Matthew Deschamps
Jérémy Duchesne


Ontario
-------
Todd Jackson (born April 10, 1979)
Geoff Walker
Dusty Collins
Maxime Boisclair
Tim Kraus
Brad Mehalko
Ryan Bowness
Mike Howe
Chad Starling
Shawn Germain
P.J. Atherton
John Murray


Phoenix
-------
Colin Sinclair
Merit Waldrop
Brett Thurston
Brett Peterson (born October 21, 1979)
Rory Rawlyk
Craig Kowalski
Kyle Jones (born August 22, 1981)


Reading
-------
Luciano Aquino
Tyler Doig
Dan Rudisuela
Jason Rayne
Gerard Miller
Matt Curley


South Carolina
--------------
Trent Campbell
Jeff Corey
Tommy Maxwell
Travis Morin
Viktor Dovgan
Sasha Pokulok


Stockton
--------
Justin Chwedoruk
David Rohlfs
Garet Hunt
Ryan Huddy
Jamie Bates
Toby LaFrance
Jeff Kryzakos
Mike Salekin
Ryan Constant
Jordan Bendfeld


Trenton
-------
Trevor Kell
Mark O'Leary
Thomas Harrison
Jeremy Akeson
Jeff Prough
Dan Eves
Ryan Gunderson
Dylan Quaile
Robert Page
Matt Cohen
Dan McGoff
Gord Burnett
Gerald Coleman
Charlie Effinger


Utah
----
Kazuma Takahashi
Tom May
Mike Walsh (born January 12, 1981)
Mark Pavli
Joel Rechlicz
Dennis Packard
Tim Verbeek
Justin Johnson (born May 5, 1979)
Greg McCauley
Jon Gleed
Jordan Hart
Mark Lutz
Evan Stoflet
Reagan Leslie
Will Bodine
A.J. Bucchino
Michael Mole


Victoria (might need some double-checking because I forgot to write them down)
--------
Scott Howes
Dan Gendur
Jonathan Boutin


Wheeling
--------
Tommy Goebel
Bryan Ewing
Jodran Morrison
Erik Johnson (born May 21, 1979)
Kelly Miller
Tobias Holm
Jon Grecu
Reid Cashman
Brock Sheahan
Mitch Ganzak

Thanks , but I went through ECHL yesterday, so this should already be done \ Lidas

[Thricecube]

Aww rats. So when is the next update. ie) When will they be in the download package?