Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic

cm_spitfire · Post by **cm_spitfire** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:04 pm

Taylor Hall. Nope, not developing. Stagnant. That's probably got a lot to do with the fact that I get the Head Coach to do practice though. Had Kabanov too but recently traded him.

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:00 pm

Haven't played in a while. So, wondering if anyone new has tested my tactic with or without tweaks.

mrt3991 · Post by **mrt3991** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:45 pm

Wroom wrote:Haven't played in a while. So, wondering if anyone new has tested my tactic with or without tweaks.

It really helped my first line breakout even more. I had Heatley, Thornton and a created version of me on my top line. through 26 games they had 29, 25 and 28 points respectively. When i changed to this tactic after that time their production skyrocketed and all ended up with 148, 133 and 150 points respectively.

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:41 pm

mrt3991 wrote:
Wroom wrote:Haven't played in a while. So, wondering if anyone new has tested my tactic with or without tweaks.
It really helped my first line breakout even more. I had Heatley, Thornton and a created version of me on my top line. through 26 games they had 29, 25 and 28 points respectively. When i changed to this tactic after that time their production skyrocketed and all ended up with 148, 133 and 150 points respectively.

Nice. Yes, it's a "score more than them" mentality. And, kind of frontloaded for the first two lines. Meaning they need to perform for this to work.

It's mostly the defensive areas who needs improvement.

Lith · Post by **Lith** » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:34 pm

I've been using this tactic for a dozen games or so and I have to say it's not any better than what I was using. In fact the games seem to be closer now. Although I have to say I nuked my 3rd and 4rth line in the offseason for more defensive guys.

I'm line matching. 4v1, 3v2, 3v1, 4v2

My roster.

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Backes
Lucic - M.Koivu - Ladd
Clark - Madden - R.Niedermayer (metality Normal, not the best attacking bunch)
Campbell - Halpern - Ortmeyer (Mentality def, because these guys couldn't score in an empty net lol)

Markov - Streit
Hamerlik - Subban
Morrison - Sbisa

Price
Halak

My PP hovers at around 17% and my PK around 81.5%
Using Lidas 2.3
Any ideas on what to tweak?

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:15 pm

Lith wrote:I've been using this tactic for a dozen games or so and I have to say it's not any better than what I was using. In fact the games seem to be closer now. Although I have to say I nuked my 3rd and 4rth line in the offseason for more defensive guys.

I'm line matching. 4v1, 3v2, 3v1, 4v2

My roster.

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Backes
Lucic - M.Koivu - Ladd
Clark - Madden - R.Niedermayer (metality Normal, not the best attacking bunch)
Campbell - Halpern - Ortmeyer (Mentality def, because these guys couldn't score in an empty net lol)

Markov - Streit
Hamerlik - Subban
Morrison - Sbisa

Price
Halak

My PP hovers at around 17% and my PK around 81.5%
Using Lidas 2.3
Any ideas on what to tweak?

I think you should switch the line-matching. Constantly sending out your worst vs. their best will give you a lot of goals against. I would try your 1st.line vs. their 2nd or 3rd. Try some experiments both with line matching and without. And for me, Ladd has always been horrible, even though he got some good stats.

Lith · Post by **Lith** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:08 pm

I've played over a season since then and I think my problem was the lack of offensive punch of my 3rd line.

Ladd in my game is almost even with Lucic, only with more of a scoring touch rather than fighting. He's a point a game player for me.

Right now my roster is

Cammalleri - Koivu - Ladd
Lucic - Plekanec - Neiderrieter
Colborne - Eberle - Backes
G.Campbell - Pahlsson - Ortmeyer

Markov - Subban
Hamerlik - Larsson (a top prospect)
Jackman - Sbisa

Price
Varlamov

I'm standing second in the East (1st place team has played 4 more games but is only 1pt ahead) with a record of 11 - 2 - 1 with 58GF and only 33GA (2nd best in the league). My PP is 21.3% (4th best) and my PK 88% (6th best).

I'm still matching 1v2, 2v3, 3v4, 4v1 and it was probably the lack of speed and agility from both Halpern and Madden that was nerfing my defensive line. but I've dropped the time of my 2nd line to 40 second shifts and upped the 3rd to 40 secs too.

I'm Averaging nearly 42 SOG a game, top in the league and 7 more than the closest rival. To 25.79 SOG against (2nd best)

Oh and Pahlsson is killing on the 4th line with a 8.14 rating.

Great tactic you got here, you just need the right personel.

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:39 pm

Aha. Nice!

Yes, everybody who tries it has to find their own little tweaks to what abilities their team have. Somehow I always get the fourth line right winger to play awesome.

Prowl · Post by **Prowl** » Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:14 pm

Hi Wroom Can you repost the screenshots for your tactic on the 1st page? The old links seem to be broken

Thanks again

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:16 pm

Prowl wrote:Hi Wroom Can you repost the screenshots for your tactic on the 1st page? The old links seem to be broken

Thanks again

I'll try to come around for it. But, the tactic is located under downloads(in the menu at the top) ---> EHM2007 ---> Tactics

Prowl · Post by **Prowl** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:38 am

Found and downloaded the tactic

Thanks bud

gambia_boy · Post by **gambia_boy** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:38 pm

Any good advices for goalies in that tactic?My goalies always suck with that tactic...

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:10 pm

gambia_boy wrote:Any good advices for goalies in that tactic?My goalies always suck with that tactic...

Find a great goalie and good players. Or, try and fix a little on the tactics to match your team. But, it is mainly a highscoring-tactic. To be great defensively, you got to find the right combos.

alanschu · Post by **alanschu** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:37 pm

Is there any need to make sure that all lines do this, and not just lines with elite talent?

I suspect it has something to do with wearing down the opposition, but I have some speedy guys, and some not so speedy guys, on my WHL team and I don't want to put that grinding 4th line in over their heads!

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:17 pm

alanschu wrote:Is there any need to make sure that all lines do this, and not just lines with elite talent?

I suspect it has something to do with wearing down the opposition, but I have some speedy guys, and some not so speedy guys, on my WHL team and I don't want to put that grinding 4th line in over their heads!

Try something different with the lower lines, and see what happens. You might find something that works better. And, might also depend if you match lines at times or not.

I'm 14 games into the first season with Detroit, and it looks like this: 10-2-2, 70-47

Zetterberg(18+16 , +16) - Datsyuk(10+16, +14) - Holmström(6+15, +9)

Bertuzzi(5+8, +4) - Filppula(2+8, +7) - Franzén(10+10, +12)

Maltby(2+3, +0) - Draper(4+2, -2) - Cleary(2+1, -1)

May(0+3, -4) - Williams(0+2, -6) - Eaves(1+0, -3)

Helm currently injured, but 4th line center with 5 gs, 0+1, +0.

Williams is my cancer, both when playing on 3rd and 4th line.

alanschu · Post by **alanschu** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:29 pm

It's a bit hard to conclusively state.

I think I am drawing more penalties, and my PP has slowly improved. Lines 3 and 4 have similar tactics, except I switch to more puck dumps and a more defensive nature. My entire team is stacked with speed so I think the up tempo play has helped.

My #1 center appreciates our style of play too haha. He has been scoring at a better clip. I did have a 7-1 game against the Red Deer Rebels (the best team in our league by far), though I lost to them 8-1 a few games later haha. My Second line is being eaten alive, so I ended up culling their minutes a little bit. My best lines are definitely my 1st and 3rd lines.

It's hard to say if the tactics specifically have helped, but my team has played a bit better the last 20 games or so. I need my #1 winger to return from Latvia U20 team though

Tomas Tatar · Post by **Tomas Tatar** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:48 pm

I'd just like to say that this tactic is AWESOME!

My team is just ripping it up haha

danzoeee · Post by **danzoeee** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:19 pm

hey, how do I load this tactic? shouldn't it just be to put it at "formations" and then load it?

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:04 pm

danzoeee wrote:hey, how do I load this tactic? shouldn't it just be to put it at "formations" and then load it?

Save it at wherever you want. But mainly it usually goes here:

my documents ---> sports interactive ---> ehm 2007 ---> tactics ---> HERE

Then, go on tactics --- > tactics(right side, top corner) ---> Load Tactics

Then find the spot where you saved the file.

danzoeee · Post by **danzoeee** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:49 pm

thanks man!

love the tactic, really does the trick

danzoeee · Post by **danzoeee** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:06 pm

Hey, so i switched team- i played Chicago for a couple of years and it all went great with this tac, all tough i had quite a bad goalie.. wellwell, i started with the Pengs now and it doesnt work aswell as with the blackhawks, what the hell is wrong.. the players i have now is more or less better then those i had in blackhawks..

Offensive;

J.Staal S.Crosby Malkin
Ladd Umberger Torres
Harju Stepan Asham
Betts Krüger Holland

D-men;

Pitkänen Suter
Rundblad Michalek
Syveret Letang

Golies;

M.A Fleury - first
Auld - second

The thing is that they score ALOT of goals on me, and its pretty wierd since i've a great golie, top 3 in the NHL atm.

My PP is 21.2% and PK 88.6% so none of them is bad.

anyone have an idéa why they keep scoring so much on me? it truly Bryzgalovs me off

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:03 am

danzoeee wrote:Hey, so i switched team- i played Chicago for a couple of years and it all went great with this tac, all tough i had quite a bad goalie.. wellwell, i started with the Pengs now and it doesnt work aswell as with the blackhawks, what the hell is wrong.. the players i have now is more or less better then those i had in blackhawks..

Offensive;

J.Staal S.Crosby Malkin
Ladd Umberger Torres
Harju Stepan Asham
Betts Krüger Holland

D-men;

Pitkänen Suter
Rundblad Michalek
Syveret Letang

Golies;

M.A Fleury - first
Auld - second

The thing is that they score ALOT of goals on me, and its pretty wierd since i've a great golie, top 3 in the NHL atm.

My PP is 21.2% and PK 88.6% so none of them is bad.

anyone have an idéa why they keep scoring so much on me? it truly Bryzgalovs me off

Check the +/- on your lines. And, make som rotations on your lines. Isn't Betts a center? And Staal and Malkin?

Not sure how good J.Staal is in the game?

What I would do? Maybe trade for a winger? Ladd has never worked for me, is he good for you?

(Staal) - Crosby - Torres

Ladd - Malkin(Staal) - ? (Malkin)

Not sure how to set up the 3rd and 4th without knowing how it they look like stats-wise and how their abilities are.

Maybe you could upload your savegame somewhere?

danzoeee · Post by **danzoeee** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:29 am

Yeah, i've alot of centers right now.. but some of them is doing well on either left or right wing for example betts and J.Staal who's doing great, his stats went down a little when i let the coach do the training but now when I do it myself his stats has greatly improved.

But i've done some changes in the lineups, for example I traded asham for Ortmeyer(they are both alike but ortmeyer is better) and another dude for Cheechoo that I play in the 4th line.

Where do you check the +/- on your lineups?

Ladd is doing fine, in 15 games he got 17p.

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:54 am

danzoeee wrote:Yeah, i've alot of centers right now.. but some of them is doing well on either left or right wing for example betts and J.Staal who's doing great, his stats went down a little when i let the coach do the training but now when I do it myself his stats has greatly improved.

But i've done some changes in the lineups, for example I traded asham for Ortmeyer(they are both alike but ortmeyer is better) and another dude for Cheechoo that I play in the 4th line.

Where do you check the +/- on your lineups?

Ladd is doing fine, in 15 games he got 17p.

Go on your roster, and press "statistics" in the main menu on the left. Should be the second to the top.

TrippyHippy · Post by **TrippyHippy** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:38 pm

I have been using this tactic for 3 seasons with the Flyers now and this morning I finally won my first ever cup on EHM07. Before I started using this tactic, I let my coaches do everything except training and had some alright seasons with the Flyers but in this playthrough I really wanted to have full control so I loaded up this tactic since the Slapshot one has never worked out well for me and wow, this setup produced a very consistant team out of my lineup. This tactic also got me back to back President Trophy's, I missed out on the first one by one win otherwise it would have been three. On top of all that, I lead the league in goals for every season beating my opposition by 50+ goals every time.

My cup winning lineup consisted of:

S. Gange - P. Forsberg - M. St. Louis
J. O'Neil - J. Carter - B. Guerin
R. Craig - K. Beech - P. Dupuis
A. Foster/ - K. Draper - C. Kelly
T. Pihlman

J. Pitkanen - M. Rathje
A. Picard - S. Morrisonn
H. Gil - N. Wallin

Starter: A. Nittymaki Backup: R. Esche

H. Coach - Greg Poss

I used the un-faking database with the 06-07 rosters so my players attributes are based upon that and not more up to date rosters. For practice schedules, I used Malhorta's Good Practice guide posted in the downloads section. However at Playoff time, I rested my players prior to the first round and then put them all on a light general schedule except my goalies as I found I was getting injuries to key players after the first game. Switching to a light general setting seemed to keep everyone healthy and playing well. For my goalies I used the Crashmash setup since anything else seemed to fatigue my starter too much. By the end of the season, Carter, Gange, Forsberg and St. Louis's attributes were all green and Nittymaki won the Vezina.

I also coached Team USA to a bronze in the World Juniors Championship and second place in the World Championship, I lost only to Canada in both Tourneys and they had a far superior lineup both times.

All in all, a very good tactic for newcomers like myself who are not adept tacticians.