EHM The Blue Line

Realpity wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:57 pm Unfortunately, my game crashed in the off season so I couldn't reach the new seasons schedule to see if it happened again

I've had the same issues that Realpity reported. Made my way to the NHL after spending a few seasons in Austria and then the WHL.
In my 1st NHL season Vasilevsky and Saros were nominated for the Vezina while neither played a single game (albeit being the best goalie on their respective rosters).

Now my game keeps crashing on July 11th 2029. Is there anything I can try to keep this save alive?

Thanks for all your effort!

Tschark wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:28 pm Now my game keeps crashing on July 11th 2029. Is there anything I can try to keep this save alive?

We have actually identified the issue of that crash, I may be able to fix the save if you can reach out to me on Steam or Discord.

Goalie issue identified and fixed!

TBL (start of season) will be released in the next 24-48 hours.

Pivot (November update) will be released this weekend or next week.

Initial release of 90sish will be released in the next week or two

Updated version of 2000ish in November

Thank goodness! Looking forward to the release.

Registered to say thank you to you and anyone else who has contributed to developing these. Keeping this game playable has given me hours upon hours of entertainment over the years.

Thank you for everything!

I have some questions about the database. After copying the files and some testing the game showed Utah Yeti and not Utah Hockey Club ingame. I needed to edit the club name with the database editor. Is this suppost to be so? Or did i something wrong? The logos for Utah show up correctly now.

They named the club Yeti intentionally.

Pivot (mid-November update) finally live.

Big thank you to this community for your understanding, patience and support in what has been easily the must frustrating stretch working on this project.

​Massive change list (July -> November updates):


General Updates:

- Rosters refreshed for all playable and some non-playable leagues

-- I tried to keep European clubs as close to their start of season rosters as possible

- Added a lot more real junior players (through 2010 YOB) globally

- Updated Aggressiveness/Dirtiness/Agitation across the DB -- thanks Imactuallyanotter!

- Updated clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!

- Updated several leagues which was using the sort rule "Own Match" to determine points tie breakers. This sort rule has been found to be buggy in the game and has been lowered in priority, should result in some more accurate standings sorting. -- thanks Kywoo Rae!!

- Fixed many scheduling inconsistencies and incorrect priority values -- thanks Riz!!


International Updates:

- Removed World Cup and Euro Hockey Tour for now until it comes back for real to reduce the amount of international tournaments the game has to worry about and schedule

-- I tried re-using the World Cup by moving it to February to turn it into the "Four Nation Faceoff" but the game will not allow it to use NHLers.

- Loosened date placement to give more flexibility for the game to schedule tournaments, date placement may not align to real life but we need to reduce potential crashing and increase stability long-term.

- Updated Olympic Tournament dates -- thanks Weepy!!


NHL updates:

- Updated injuries, positions and jersey numbers from PuckPedia Depth Charts

- Updated dates of arena moves for Calgary and Ottawa (guess I was way too optimistic!)

- Relocated ASG to February 16th which should fix the issue where teams were getting rescheduled duplicate games -- thanks CJMattias!!

- Cleaned up RFAs

- Retired out LTIR players such as Ellis and Price

- Updated prospect pools based on rankings and season roundup scouting reports from EliteProspects (https://eprinkside.com/category/prospect-pool-rankings)


Canadian Updates:

- Updated OHL draft picks, will eventually get around to QMJHL and WHL, it's a lot of updates!


French Updates:

- Updated U20 and U18 clubs and competitions


North American Updates:

- Cleaned up junior rights for players with 2004 YOBs

- Updated Alberta AA leagues and clubs


Russian Updates:

- Fixed issues with KHL structure by reverting to older version.

- Cleaned up some conflicting transfer rules causing issues -- may not align to real life, but we have to work within the limits of the game.

- Updated KHL Transfer Rules -- thanks Wolski!!

- Updated KHL salaries and award history -- thanks Angry Duck!!


Slovak Updates:

- Updated schedule and league structure for Extraliga - slight date changes needed to accommodate max length of playoffs

- Updated clubs and league structure for 1.liga -- thanks Džuradž for the report and testing!!


Swedish Updates:

- Updated affiliations, captains and rivals in SHL, HA and HE -- thanks Aahlstroem!!

- Updated starting injuries in SHL and HA -- thanks Aahlstroem!!

- Updated J20 Nationell clubs and playoff format -- thanks Aahlstroem!!

- Updated U16 and J18 clubs -- thanks Aahlstroem!!

- Updated HockeyEttan clubs, and league structure, some teams promoted to Ettan to make league an even 40 teams to allow for consistent promotion/relegation -- thanks Vik3tbotselektor and Aahlstroem!!

- Updated HockeyTvåan clubs in preparation for it becoming playable in a future update -- thanks Aahlstroem!!

- Updated clubs in lower level junior leagues and added affiliations -- thanks Aahlstroem!!

Has anyone else noticed this issue, there are like 20 German players drafted first for the 2029-2030 NHL Draft

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ypI1h7 ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AhO2V6 ... drive_link

kev26 wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:44 pm Has anyone else noticed this issue, there are like 20 German players drafted first for the 2029-2030 NHL Draft

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ypI1h7 ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AhO2V6 ... drive_link

I'd due to the IRL German players pre-seeded into the DB, looks like I rolled a bunch way too high, fixed! Thanks for reporting!

Pivot 9.3 posted, Happy Holidays!

General Updates:
- Latest notable transactions for human-playable leagues
- Updated heights/weights for players in playable leagues
- Starting further database cleanup of UFA players/staff, this will take several releases to complete -- thanks ArchibauldUK!

- Prospect Generator Updates: -- all credit to ImActuallyAnOtter and osososos to their research work and dedication to this!
- Near-complete overhaul of the Prospect Generator
GENERAL:
Across the PG, the level of potential ability has been increased to match recent drafts but the quality of players has been much more heavily randomized.
It will be significantly more difficult to find good goaltending due to the added randomization
It will be significantly more difficult to find players that correlate to existing Pivot attributes due to the added randomization
The long-term distribution of current ability will much closer match Pivot 2-4 years into a given save rather than what you see on Pivot day 1.

MENTAL/HIDDEN ATTRIBUTES:
The PG now generates ~50% of its players with random attributes, so they will look like "game regens" as opposed to prospect generated players designed to look like Pivot Day 1 players. The other 50% remain the same as the last issue, but with some minor changes only.
Determination has been lowered by an average of 5-7 points on a 20-point scale across the board.
Consistency and Important Matches have been lowered by 2-4 points on a 20-point scale across the board.
Loyalty, Fighting, Pass Tendency and Versatility are now fully randomized for all players, in addition to injury proneness and natural fitness which have been for some time.
Significant Updates to defensive role and offensive role based on recent research. Expect to see offensive role remain similar and defensive role to drop compared to priors.
Despite increased ability distribution, reduced goalie hiddens/mentals means you should expect average save percentages to drop to the 0.890-0.900 range to match IRL.

VISIBLE ATTRIBUTES:
Goalie Glove and Blocker attributes should be increased at generation
With the ~50% randomization, expect to find far less goalies with balanced attributes

ROLE DISTRIBUTION:
More balanced distribution of player roles
Expect to see some "archetypes" such as "High Physicals", "High Mentals", "PK Specialist", "PP Specialist" and "PIM Gatherer", which are introduced in this version

International Updates:
- Added Euro Hockey Tour and World Cup back in with some fixes. World Cup will go in 2024 with Olympics in 2026, should get a best on best with NHLers international tournament every 2 years.
- Updated WJC-U20 players/staff

NHL Updates:
- NHL Re-rates starting in January, nothing completed yet in this release, looking for help via fan feedback!
- Updates to several 2025/2026 notables

Canadian Updates:
- Updated several clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!
- Changed Junior Preference of CHL league contracted, NHL unsigned players to None from Major Junior. This should allow these players to also have the option of not extending with their junior team and potentially transferring to the NCAA or other College leagues. I have also set all CHL league contracts to 1.2.1900 which should default most to one year to allow these transfers.
-- While there is no guarantee this will work, its a good enough workaround until there is proper game code added to support the CHL -> NCAA transfer rules.
-- Any IRL player that has submitted for a transfer will have their preference set to College as I find them.

Czechia Updates:
- Added/Updates clubs and updated Czech Maxa liga and Czech 2. Liga structures -- thanks Matee!!

Germany:
- Adjusted PA ranges of IRL 13-15 y/o German players -- thanks kev26!

Russian Updates:
- Updated KHL staff

United States Updates:
- Updated several clubs/competition names and colors -- thanks Dani9!!

I'm interested in helping re-rates for the Blues (positive and negative). How can I go about assisting you in this?

Send me a friend request/DM on Steam or Discord.

Hello.

The Finnish Liiga playoffs sometimes carry out over April 30th, meaning relegation playoffs haven't been played yet, causing them to stretch out until May and teams playing them with half a team. Will try to do some start date / schedule modifications myself but I'm wondering, is this something that is overlooked by the creators of the roster, or is something that is not fixable (ie. limited by the game engine)?

Thanks.

Thomaxius wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:18 am Hello.

The Finnish Liiga playoffs sometimes carry out over April 30th, meaning relegation playoffs haven't been played yet, causing them to stretch out until May and teams playing them with half a team. Will try to do some start date / schedule modifications myself but I'm wondering, is this something that is overlooked by the creators of the roster, or is something that is not fixable (ie. limited by the game engine)?

Thanks.

Thanks for the report! That May 1st roll over date is a game limitation, I'll take a look at the playoffs and see if we can move them up a day or two. Can you send me a save you have where it rolled over that date?

xECK29x wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:28 pm
Thanks for the report! That May 1st roll over date is a game limitation, I'll take a look at the playoffs and see if we can move them up a day or two. Can you send me a save you have where it rolled over that date?

Thanks for the reply. I'm aware of the hardcoded May 1st date, but was wondering if setting the season to start earlier would cause issues. If not, I think this can be worked around by moving playoffs start ~2 weeks earlier to be safe. I think the playoffs went to game 7 which was on the 30rd - a bit on the edge. Also, the relegation was after the playoffs, don't think it needs to wait for them to finish.

I don't have a save anymore sadly, but I think this can be replicated pretty easily. I'll be doing some more testing myself too, I'll see if I can make it happen again.

Thomaxius wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:09 pm Thanks for the reply. I'm aware of the hardcoded May 1st date, but was wondering if setting the season to start earlier would cause issues. If not, I think this can be worked around by moving playoffs start ~2 weeks earlier to be safe. I think the playoffs went to game 7 which was on the 30rd - a bit on the edge. Also, the relegation was after the playoffs, don't think it needs to wait for them to finish.

I don't have a save anymore sadly, but I think this can be replicated pretty easily. I'll be doing some more testing myself too, I'll see if I can make it happen again.

I was able to choke up the month of March a bit, moves the entire playoffs up 3 days. I'll run a few sims and see how it goes. I don't have anymore room to work with so I'd have to move the entire schedule back a week or so, similar to what i have to do for the KHL.

xECK29x wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:55 pm I was able to choke up the month of March a bit, moves the entire playoffs up 3 days. I'll run a few sims and see how it goes. I don't have anymore room to work with so I'd have to move the entire schedule back a week or so, similar to what i have to do for the KHL.

Yeah, I used the Olympic break dates to make the schedule a bit tighter. Now should be moved by two weeks. Best option is probably to move the season start a bit earlier all together. I'll try running some simulations as well.

By the way, I'm always getting a crash in July of the second season. This doesn't require investigation from you as I've created a few players and probably messed something up, but how critical is it to disable extra players and staff and wage adjustments? Can they cause such crashes? I would like to have smaller nation's national teams for example to have extra players and staff, so wondering if this is something that has to be done manually instead. Oh and I have chosen 20 leagues.

Thomaxius wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:38 pm Yeah, I used the Olympic break dates to make the schedule a bit tighter. Now should be moved by two weeks. Best option is probably to move the season start a bit earlier all together. I'll try running some simulations as well.

By the way, I'm always getting a crash in July of the second season. This doesn't require investigation from you as I've created a few players and probably messed something up, but how critical is it to disable extra players and staff and wage adjustments? Can they cause such crashes? I would like to have smaller nation's national teams for example to have extra players and staff, so wondering if this is something that has to be done manually instead. Oh and I have chosen 20 leagues.

I'd really have to see the save for the crash, if its an older version of the DB it might be a specific staff issue we found, which is fixable using the editor on a save.

^Yeah, I was using a version that was branched from a November version of this. Now with my simulations it went until 2027 when I quit. I also got the relegation to end before 30th by moving the Liiga schedule to start 2 weeks earlier and by making the Mestis schedule a bit tighter towards the end, so playoffs finish before relegation is supposed to start.

I can upload for reference if is needed, but don't think this is a solution that should be put to production.

Thomaxius wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:33 am ^Yeah, I was using a version that was branched from a November version of this. Now with my simulations it went until 2027 when I quit. I also got the relegation to end before 30th by moving the Liiga schedule to start 2 weeks earlier and by making the Mestis schedule a bit tighter towards the end, so playoffs finish before relegation is supposed to start.

I can upload for reference if is needed, but don't think this is a solution that should be put to production.

Thanks, I pulled back the Liiga and Mestis schedules and playoffs, if you wouldn't mind testing for me please DM me on Steam/Discord/here.

xECK29x wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:28 pm Thanks, I pulled back the Liiga and Mestis schedules and playoffs, if you wouldn't mind testing for me please DM me on Steam/Discord/here.

Ah snap, I just properly started my save for the 5th time
I guess I can reset once more. I'll add you after the weekend the latest.

Pivot 9.4 - January update posted!

Some pretty substantial changes here, please give feedback on them!

General Updates:
- Latest notable transactions and contract extensions for playable leagues
- Implemented new attribute standards based on researcher consensus and applied them database wide except for players over 100 CA and NHL floor PA players. I removed a majority of pre-set attributes, allowing the game to randomize them on start to allow more variation to players based on role. Expect a lot more randomness new game to new game.
-- I am looking for feedback here, good or bad, especially for lower-level league or European focused players!
- Any players with no player-type set have had all attributes set to 0.
- Cleaned up free agent players

Prospect Generator Updates -- thanks ImActuallyAnOtter!!
- In the last release, about 30% players had no physical attributes set. Physical attributes have now been set for all players
- Updated model for anticipation, creativity and decisions implemented as a beta for this issue
- Expect significant changes to be coming to the PG based on Community Poll feedback, these will be included in the next issue

International Updates:
- Updated World Championship top level team count to 16 and Divsion 3 team count to 6 -- thanks filip85!!
- Updated game counts for all stages of WC

Canadian Updates:
- Updated CHL league captains and attendance and processed all trade deadline moves for all three leagues.

Finnish Updates:
- Tightened up Liiga and Mestis schedules in February/March to move playoffs forward three days to prevent Relegation Playoffs from rolling over past the May 1st cutoff date. This may need further adjusting after more testing. -- Thanks Thomaxius for the report!!

NHL Updates:
- Updated the entire 2025 draft class (396+ players) based on CSS mid-term rankings and World Junior performances
- Updated notable players for 2026 and 2027 draft classes
- Updated starting injuries and future retirements
- Updated attendance averages
- Will be reducing/re-tiering NHL level staff, feels like rep/CA are too high end for positions like scouts. Will be adjusted as I update organizations during re-rates.
- Re-rated starting goalies based slightly on The Athletic's Tier List
- Started NHL re-rates which cover staff, players and prospects/RFAs. Teams completed in this update:
-- BOS
-- DAL
-- FLA
-- NAS
-- NYI
-- NYR
-- STL

How do you use the prospect generator, is it built in to the roster or do I need to run it before I start my game? Also what's the difference between database- no added prospects and database, does this have anything to do with the PG?

joecool922 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:46 am How do you use the prospect generator, is it built in to the roster or do I need to run it before I start my game? Also what's the difference between database- no added prospects and database, does this have anything to do with the PG?

It's basically a giant spreadsheet that algorithmically generates players which I add into the DB before i post it, those players do not stay in the master DB. Yes that "no added prospects" DB is basically the pure master DB without the PG sheet, online leagues like having that available for use.

I'm noticing a ton of suspensions for players receiving match penalties since starting a new save. Almost every day there's a player or two around the league that's getting suspended for a game or two because of a match penalty. Anyone else experiencing this?