Official 2006 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs Talk *SPOILERS!*

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noctambulist wrote:Isn't it funny though how a team from a market where they can barely get half capacity in the stadium during the regular season is now in the finals? When will these NC people learn? Hockey RULES!!!
Haven't seen many games at Carolina this year, eh? ;) Believe me, they have a fantastic and devoted fan base that have definitely caught on to hockey; actually that could safely be said as of several years ago when they last made their playoff run.

As for this year... RBC Center holds 18,730; Carolina averaged 15,596 per game. So that's "barely half full" eh?? Is this that New Math again? :tiptap: They we also within a few hundred of being the top drawing team on the road...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2006
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C'mon Oilers!
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:-k Are you sure thats... accurate?
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It's pretty accurate.

It would be probably 17,000 average if it wasn't for the NCAA tournament :P
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Minstrel wrote:Haven't seen many games at Carolina this year, eh? ;)
I'm sure they have a devoted fan base, I'm not going to argue that, but I can only attest to what I've seen when the Bruins play them in Carolina. I watch every Bruins game so I've seen them in Carolina a few times, and the stadium looks pretty empty most of the time and I always think it's bad when you hear the players on the ice more than the crowd. Maybe it's just when they play the Bruins :dunno: Or maybe they just need a smaller stadium? 3000 empty seats a night is still a lot of empty seats or at least it looks like a lot on the TV.

Darn you Minty and your facts ruining my completely subjective and exagerated point. :-p
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Eh, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story 8-)

Carolina makes a HUGE comeback and wins after being down by 3!

Also, Rolosson is OUT for the rest of the series as he got taken out by his own player squashed against his own goal; if it wasn't for the breakaway nets he'd have been taken off on a stretcher.

Big blow to Edmonton as it's a real one-two punch losing this game they were dominating and losing The Man that has been a huge part of their unlikely run.

Ward was absolutely rediculous in net tonight playing at least as well as Roli has played in the games he dominated. I think Edmonton is in some serious trouble in this one.
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McDavid-ing Southeast gets the cup agian. :rant:
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What a game, what a game. I really don't have a dog in this fight so I'm just hoping to watch great hockey, and I did just that.

That stinks for Roli and Edmonton. I hope it's still a good series that goes 7 games. I wouldn't count out Edmonton just yet, but Roloson certainly was a major factor for them getting this far.
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E5150_ca wrote:f*** Southeast gets the cup agian. :rant:
Rough year for Canada ;) Well at least you can always think back fondly about the Olympics... oh, wait... nevermind :-p
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Minstrel wrote:
E5150_ca wrote:f*** Southeast gets the cup agian. :rant:
Rough year for Canada ;) Well at least you can always think back fondly about the Olympics... oh, wait... nevermind :-p
Oh, no he didn't! :-p
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Minstrel wrote:
E5150_ca wrote:f*** Southeast gets the cup agian. :rant:
Rough year for Canada ;) Well at least you can always think back fondly about the Olympics... oh, wait... nevermind :-p

Because American hockey is really at its prime right? :roll:
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I've voiced my opinion of how terribly put together the US team was; but in any case they did basically as expected. Canada? Not so much...

Another huge game tonight by the Canes!! :joy: wOOt!
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Hooray for the Hurricanes!
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I hate this being held to the NBC network broadcast schedule for the rest of the Final btw... :roll:
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Minstrel wrote:I've voiced my opinion of how terribly put together the US team was; but in any case they did basically as expected. Canada? Not so much...
So the States can be forgiven for putting together a horrible team but Canada can't?
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I had a bit of a hockey fest last night. I watched the taped game 1 in fast-forward, slowing to see the major plays. Then I stopped it at after Carolina levelled it up at 3-3 and watched it as live right through to the end. Phew! What a game!
1) GREAT Hemsky goal-i didn't know the result so was amazed at this finish coming when it did. very impressive
2) GREAT Cam Ward-wow-I didn't realise this kid was so good-amazing reflex saves-looked cool and calm under all sorts of pressure, and how about that save with 4 seconds to go??
3) What network is this being shown on? we have a non-descript one-I thought the commentators were ok, but I wondered which corporation it was.

Then I got up at 1.20am (yes, that's commitment folks ;)) and watched Game 2 live 'till the end of the second period, about 2.40am here. It was equally interesting, but not-surprsingly couldn't live up to the excitement of the first. I can't wait for the series to head north on Saturday night now. I'll be watching at some ungodly hour :)
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E5150_ca wrote:So the States can be forgiven for putting together a horrible team but Canada can't?
I think that's part of the problem, Canada didn't put together a horrible team but they did put together a horrible performance. And while putting together the team Canadians and other hockey media declared they could put together another team just with people left off the team due to squad size restrictions and presumably just show up to get their medals at the ceremony.

Considering all the 'Our Game' talk/belief and bluster it's far far more embarassing for Canada to not have even gotten a medal of any sort and been tossed around like ragdolls in the majority of their games. Like eskimos losing an igloo building competition or something. Yeah, the US should have done better no matter how naff and heavily flawed their team composition was with zero leadership and prehistoric defense but nobody expected/predicted they'd do very well while most talk of Torino Hockey started with "So Canada wins the Gold, but who's your pick for the Silver?"
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BlackCats101 wrote:3) What network is this being shown on? we have a non-descript one-I thought the commentators were ok, but I wondered which corporation it was.
These games were on OLN, the network owned by Comcast cable. It was a deal put together in late August since ESPN officially gambled on there being no 2004 season and cut off their responsibilities completely before the stoppage.

So as it was they did a fairly good job pulling it all together though their first month or so of shows was basically just a bit above Local Access cable. By the end they've done fairly well with the tech side and their pre/post games have been fairly good. They'll be doing so again next year in the September renaming of the network to Versus (they've been just using the initials while before it used to stand for Outdoor Life Network) :dunno:

I've come to appreciate at least that it is their priority and Bull Riding, the Tour de France and fishing and hunting shows aren't going to bump the NHL from coverage any time soon as Basketball and Baseball were doing frequently when ESPN bumped all but a handful of games to ESPN2 while showing more and more of every other sport.

Mike Emerik has been the play-by-play guy and John Davidson has blundered along with Color duty as he has for the Rangers broadcasts for several years. Emerick is steady if unspectacular if you don't let his continually calling the net "the cage" get on your nerves. Davison is a bit too in love with his own voice and declaring himself the Ultimate Authority on everything and feeling it's his job to emphatically "fill" with color before actually thinking or understanding what he's supposed to be commenting on. He'll carry on about a play and have five replays with his insisting and further explaining that one thing happened before finally being proven that he'd talking out his ass and he'll then retract. I of course will be yelling at the TV telling him he's a dumbass :rant: He sometimes doesn't realize/admit his obvious mistakes until we get back to replays before the next period... one too many pucks to the head I guess as he was an NHL goaltender.

The latest example was his difinitively stating that Weight's goal would be waved off because he kicked it in; while not noticing that Weight was telling the ref he got it with his stick or seeing on any of six or seven replays that the puck deflected flat off his skate blade and then when getting near his stick somehow started flipping end over end. "See he clearly is nowhere near getting it with his stick so this one's going to be called back." Even after they called it good he kept on that it was the wrong call until "the booth" showed an angle at the next stoppage that showed the clear skate to stick to the back of the net progression "Oh that's why he was saying he got it with his stick to the ref he got it after it was off his skate which is of course total legal so that's a good goal." :roll:

Earlier on (and now I'm forgettign the player even) he had them show the replay of how clean the hit against the boards was by some player and how there certainly shouldn't have been a call on that and that the crowd shouldn't be booing; never once pointing out (until after the game) that maybe it wasn't so legit given that the hit was against the boards near the blue line and at the time the puck was behind the net... "See? Nothing wrong with that one, just a good clean hit!" After the game upon seeing the replay again "Well, actually the puck is back behind the net at the time so yeah it could have been interference but it was a clean hit."

In comparison with other hockey commentators they are on the whole pretty good though.
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Just to point something out, there are more Canadian players in Carolina than there are in Edmonton, for everyone who's cheering for the Oil just because they're based in Canada. Not to mention that Oil fans and supporters are just getting their hopes up for nothing. Does anyone honestly believe that Maarkanen can hold the Oilers in for three more wins? He was pretty good last game but he just doesn't have the poise that a guy like Ward has. Next time the Canes score first, especially if it's early, watch out for another routine looking beatdown.
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Thundercleese wrote:Just to point something out, there are more Canadian players in Carolina than there are in Edmonton, for everyone who's cheering for the Oil just because they're based in Canada. Not to mention that Oil fans and supporters are just getting their hopes up for nothing. Does anyone honestly believe that Maarkanen can hold the Oilers in for three more wins? He was pretty good last game but he just doesn't have the poise that a guy like Ward has. Next time the Canes score first, especially if it's early, watch out for another routine looking beatdown.

I'd rather cheer for a European that signed for a Canadian team then a Canadian who signed for a team in the south east.
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How does playing for a team in the southeast make a person any less Canadian? What about a guy like Martin St. Louis who, as much as I can't stand the guy, was an undrafted joker who wasn't good enough for the Flames when they were stuck in losing seasons? He got his chance in Tampa and made the best of it and that doesn't mean he's not Canadian. Guys can't help it if they're traded or drafted to a certain team and what would you think of them if they held out like whiny old Eric Lindros (or Eli Manning to cross sports)? I'm quicker to call a player a whiner or a self-entitled loser if they were to hold out waiting for a Canadian (or American) team to sign them. Sometimes players take less to be in a positive situation but can you blame a guy for wanting to abandon some of the Canucks or Oilers or Senators or Flames teams of yesteryear? These guys don't have long to make money (even if they get payed an obscene amount) and they don't have long to try to win a championship. If I were a pro hockey player and my best chance to win a Cup was in Carolina, I'd go FOR SURE.
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What the hell are you talking about?
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Oil prices are up, and the cup is comeing back home. :joy: :-D


Cue the whineing about unfairness from Instaaled and the giant rant about how the hurricanes will prevail in game 7 from Minty.



(PS. You could really see how 'hard' the canee's work shift after shift this game, that is, working hard at getting a penalty)

(PPS. It seems the Cane's aren't used to playing such good teams for 13 games in a row, they do play in the south east after all.)

(PPPS. Minty, if you want me to respond, keep it short this time. I won't read it otherwise.)
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Why is the Cup going to Sheffield, England? :-?
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1. A place where one lives; a residence.



As they say, Home is where the Heart is.
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