New York Islanders - Challenge 12 - Discussion Thread

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:19 pm

thunderbug wrote: I'm only 3 games in, but so far no injuries other than the others already. The guys are really clicking too. We are 3-0. My AHL team is playing well too. Come the 15th I'm going to try for Mike Smith. Tampa sent him down and he has been AWOL since. Tampa signed Thibault and that is why he was sent down. My scouts indicate him to be better than my current duo. If he comes cheap I'll be all over that.

I'm in the time where I'm allowed to make some trades but I'm still kind of feeling things out. I'm doing okay and I'm not sure I want to disrupt that yet. Maybe wait until we flounder again. You know what I mean? Plus, I'm wondering what kind of deals I can make at this point. We can trade draft picks or unsigned prospects and we need to maintain our farm team (2G/6D/12F). That doesn't leave us too many spare parts to deal until we get some guys back from injury.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:20 pm

batdad wrote:Note to self:

Ryan Garlock is the Patrick Marleau of challenges in the AHL. Ban him next time.

Gerard Coleman is the Antero Nittywhatevermaki of the AHL for challenges. BAn him next time!!!

Oh and BTW I won't take those guys...

Honestly... they're not helping my farm team a whole lot right now! My AHL guys are terrible!

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:27 pm

gibson41 wrote:Two questions:

-Where do we declare and keep track of our homegrowns? I see there's this tab in the Stats Tracker, but according to this:
Season 2 : 1 HG
Season 3 : 2 HG
Season 4 : 1 HG
Season 5 : 2 HG
Season 6 : 1 HG
Season 7 : 2 HG
, I don't think there's enough place to fill them in. Or am I just missing something? In each season there's yellow space for one HG only, where do I put the second one?

That sheet in the tracker was meant for when we were doing the core. I didn't make a new stat recording sheet this time around. You can just keep track of those guys on your own in a spreadsheet or notepad. As long you declare your homegrowns for the season when you log your first 20 games worth of stats (starting in season 2), you should be fine.

gibson41 wrote: -
A player signed as a Young UFA may not play for your NHL club in the season that you signed him. If you sign a player as a UFA in season 1, he cannot play with your NHL team until season 2. This also means that this player would not be eligible to be declared as a homegrown player until season 3.
According to rules, HG has to spend one full season in my system, so why he can't be declared as HG until season 3, which makes 2 full seasons in my system?

It has to do with the date he is signed. The player must be on your roster by September 1st 2006 for that season to be counted. We start the game on August 30th 2006. There is no way you can get an offer out to a player and have him join your team by September 1st 2006. So even though that player is on your team for the 06-07 season, he cannot be used as a homegrown for the 07-08 season. He will be on your roster by September 1st 2007, so he can used as a homegrown for the 08-09 season.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:30 pm

We can trade draft picks or unsigned prospects

Really?? ARe you sure? Or are you already kicked out of the challenge??

Bettah read those rules again, mr TYPO....just to be sure.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:34 pm

bruins72 wrote: I'm in the time where I'm allowed to make some trades but I'm still kind of feeling things out. I'm doing okay and I'm not sure I want to disrupt that yet. Maybe wait until we flounder again. You know what I mean? Plus, I'm wondering what kind of deals I can make at this point. We can't trade draft picks or unsigned prospects and we need to maintain our farm team (2G/6D/12F). That doesn't leave us too many spare parts to deal until we get some guys back from injury.

Adjusted so that batdad doesn't cry.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:36 pm

Me cry? NEver....just kick yer butt even if ya cheat, as you well know from past experience with cheaters...who cannot beat me anyway!!

thunderbug · Post by **thunderbug** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:36 pm

batdad wrote:Note to self:

Ryan Garlock is the Patrick Marleau of challenges in the AHL. Ban him next time.

Gerard Coleman is the Antero Nittywhatevermaki of the AHL for challenges. BAn him next time!!!

Oh and BTW I won't take those guys...

I'm not using either of them and we are still rolling.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:43 pm

Whaddya want for that tbug, a pat on the back? A brownie badge?

Nah, I'd rather kick ya in the.....Pfft,,,,guy thinks he can beat me!!! HAHAAHAHA

I love playing around

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:44 pm

Do we need a separate trash talk thread for challenges too?

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:46 pm

Bite me, loser boy. What place are you going to manage to underachieve yourself into this time? 4th, 5th??? At some point, underachievers just become sucky!!

B72 the Alexandre Daigle of TBL challenges.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:58 pm

What kind of drivel are you spouting? I came in 1st in the second season of the last challenge. I placed 3rd in the 1st season. Doesn't sound like underachieving to me...

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:17 pm

Bah...2nd season. Try doing something right off the hop, instead of sucking so bad you win from the baby beginner "improvement" points. Those should be like you know...sportsmanship points to a grizzled old vet like yerself....

3rd is underachieving for a dude like you...

Post by **batdad** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:24 pm

Oh boy...heading to camp and I have not got my assistant coach for NYI yet. Oh oh....

aadz · Post by **aadz** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:23 pm

I will be in for my first ever challenge now! This should be exciting as I have always let the Head Coach do the in-game coaching, and just stuck to a more "traditional" GM role.. So I'll be in just for fun and learning new stuff

gibson41 · Post by **gibson41** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:26 pm

Okay, I've also kicked things off as we have day off from school tomorrow.

Staff - AC Lacroix out, scouts Bowen and Chesla are out, brought in third trainer M. Andersson, scouts Harris, Racicot, Bennett and AC Charron (I found this guy, when I was looking for scouts, he has amazing skills in coaching area - 17 17 19. For my AHL team I fired the only AC there, and hired Wolf as HC, Richard, Richardson and Svoboda as AC, plus three trainers.

Players - It's gonna take a while 'til I discover strengths, weaknesses and abilites of players in my system. Meanwhile, I signed 3 Young UFAs. After I set the requring attributes for goalie, the only possible player was several times mentioned Coleman. But to raise in batdad's eyes, I found a good alternative in 21 years old Ben Scrivens. Also signed D Tyrell Manson and RW Mike Ramsay. After few days I recieved news that Sillinger ends with proffesional career, and thus I recieved 2 000 000$ from insurance company. First guy called off my farm team was Mitch Fritz, he's gonna be my main benchwarmer. I also got reserve list notification, so I released Alexei Stonkus, 24 years old, sucky stats... Got several minor injuries before the exhibitions.

I will update later.

Post by **Lidas** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:04 am

Did my first trade. Bergenheim out, first line left winger in. Will write about it in the blog later. He had one goal and one assist in his first game

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:02 pm

gibson41 wrote:After few days I recieved news that Sillinger ends with proffesional career, and thus I recieved 2 000 000$ from insurance company.

Seriously? He retired in your game? He hasn't done that in mine. I was kind of surprised he didn't though. He's in his late 30's and it's a long injury. I wonder if he had a setback in his recovery in your game? Something must've made him change his mind and retire. I just love how things can be different from game to game.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:03 pm

Lidas wrote:Did my first trade. Bergenheim out, first line left winger in. Will write about it in the blog later. He had one goal and one assist in his first game

Oh sure! Make us all curious so we'll check out your blog!

Post by **Lidas** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:11 pm

bruins72 wrote:
Lidas wrote:Did my first trade. Bergenheim out, first line left winger in. Will write about it in the blog later. He had one goal and one assist in his first game
Oh sure! Make us all curious so we'll check out your blog!

It's in there already. A true veteran. Scored 5 goals in his 4 first games.
Now - dont you all now go and do the same trade...

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:25 pm

I liked you blog, Lidas. Hope you're able to keep it up through the challenge.

While I never trade for the older veterans (especially giving up youth), I think you made a smart move. That veteran will help you get better results for at least your first 2 seasons. Good job!

Post by **batdad** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:05 pm

Silly retired in my game too. Just as preseason ends.

gibson41 · Post by **gibson41** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:08 pm

Lidas: Hm, I checked up your blog and was kinda pleased that I am not the only one struggling. Well actually, your acquistion helped you a lot to turn things around... I am off to an abysmal start 1-7-0 and feel like giving up. I don't want to do any trades, as the problem is that the best players are on IR...DiP, Witt, Martinek...I guess I will join the chase for Tavares, although I hate the idea of struggling all season long...

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:19 pm

Gibson... don't give up. It's a long season. Things can turn around. Even if you do poorly for the entire first season, you can build from there in your second season. Anyhow, the Islanders are supposed to be bad and it's your job to rebuild them. Do what you can with that. Honestly, only batdad is really concerned with where he finishes. For the most part we're doing this for fun.

gibson41 · Post by **gibson41** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:30 pm

bruins72 wrote:Gibson... don't give up. It's a long season. Things can turn around. Even if you do poorly for the entire first season, you can build from there in your second season. Anyhow, the Islanders are supposed to be bad and it's your job to rebuild them. Do what you can with that. Honestly, only batdad is really concerned with where he finishes. For the most part we're doing this for fun.

Yeah I know, it's just always demoralizing when your team struggles, and especially big time. It's beginning of a big rebuilding process. But there have been certain improvements in the game, I gotta admit. First loss was 7-1, last two were 3-4, 2-3so, so you can tell the difference.

Post by **joehelmer** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:17 pm

Just had my training camp "up to speed" and it said that RDP was in good shape, can you really be in a good shape if you have a broken leg?

My young UFAs is the same as B72's, for one reason they were the best when I searched, before I signed Martine I tried to sign O'Brien, but he didn't want to sign as a fringe player.