2009 NHL Free Agency Frenzy & Offseason Deals discussion

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getzlaf15 wrote:I don't like Heatley. End of... If Cheechoo can refind his scoring touch he had a few years back, and if Michalek continues his strong play and improvement, then this is a good deal for Ottawa.

I hope Cheechoo will restart is career at OTT, maybe he was just the type of player who's got his superstar moment, like Kevin Hatcher but i think he can do better than 29 pts in 80 games. As for Michalek, he's a player i use to really like, he's getting better and better every year and it's a really good thing for the Sens.

Personally, i think Ottawa got the better part of the deal, Cheechoo isn't Heatley for sure, but if Cheechoo begins to score again like 30 goals and that Michalek continu to develop and become a key player, this worth more than Heatley, plus a second round pick isn't bad at all.
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philou21 wrote:
getzlaf15 wrote:I don't like Heatley. End of... If Cheechoo can refind his scoring touch he had a few years back, and if Michalek continues his strong play and improvement, then this is a good deal for Ottawa.

I hope Cheechoo will restart is career at OTT, maybe he was just the type of player who's got his superstar moment, like Kevin Hatcher but i think he can do better than 29 pts in 80 games. As for Michalek, he's a player i use to really like, he's getting better and better every year and it's a really good thing for the Sens.

Personally, i think Ottawa got the better part of the deal, Cheechoo isn't Heatley for sure, but if Cheechoo begins to score again like 30 goals and that Michalek continu to develop and become a key player, this worth more than Heatley, plus a second round pick isn't bad at all.
True, but that may be too many "if" aswell. Add the enigmatic Kovalev to the mix, and the Sens can end up either first or last with globaly the same probability.

I don't blame Murray for those moves though. He did what he could, and Heatley did his best (probably not intentionnally, but the result is the same) to prevent him from doing his job properly.

It will be interesting to see what Clouston can do with this group for his first full season with the team.

Heatley is relatively lucky that he won't have to play any single game at Scotiabank Place this season. The only meeting between the Sharks and the Sens will be on December 1st, but it will be at the HP Pavilion Center. Too bad, i would have loved to see Heatley booed at the Scotiabank Place :D
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Here's to hoping that Neil knocks Heatley the f**k out. I'm glad that little baby is gone. Michalek is a good aquisition and apparently Murray wanted him earlier, but the Sharks were unwilling to part with him. Hopefully Cheechoo will regain his form.

At least the distraction is now gone.
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philou21 wrote:
getzlaf15 wrote:I don't like Heatley. End of... If Cheechoo can refind his scoring touch he had a few years back, and if Michalek continues his strong play and improvement, then this is a good deal for Ottawa.

I hope Cheechoo will restart is career at OTT, maybe he was just the type of player who's got his superstar moment, like Kevin Hatcher but i think he can do better than 29 pts in 80 games. As for Michalek, he's a player i use to really like, he's getting better and better every year and it's a really good thing for the Sens.

Personally, i think Ottawa got the better part of the deal, Cheechoo isn't Heatley for sure, but if Cheechoo begins to score again like 30 goals and that Michalek continu to develop and become a key player, this worth more than Heatley, plus a second round pick isn't bad at all.
I don't think that Cheechoo will score over 30 goals, BUT he can still score about 25 goals per year, depends on who is center and who is left winger. If he can play PP with Spezza and Alfredsson/Michalek, THEN he can score over 30 goals, but i don't think so.

Heatley is now in SJ and he can play with Joe Thornton. Hope that Heatley plays well with Thornton, cause he can destroy Thornton's season if he doesn't score much or if he plays flegmatic.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_spo ... LvW8ClVkdN

The Post has learned that the agent for Nikolai Zherdev, who rejected the Rangers' $3.25 million qualifier and then became a free agent when the team walked away from his $3.9 million arbitration award, called the club this week offering to return for $3.25 million. The offer was refused.

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The Sabres finally agree to terms with Stafford, a two years deal. Don't have the financial details though. Good thing for Buffalo.
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Danny wrote:http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_spo ... LvW8ClVkdN

The Post has learned that the agent for Nikolai Zherdev, who rejected the Rangers' $3.25 million qualifier and then became a free agent when the team walked away from his $3.9 million arbitration award, called the club this week offering to return for $3.25 million. The offer was refused.

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Danny wrote:http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_spo ... LvW8ClVkdN

The Post has learned that the agent for Nikolai Zherdev, who rejected the Rangers' $3.25 million qualifier and then became a free agent when the team walked away from his $3.9 million arbitration award, called the club this week offering to return for $3.25 million. The offer was refused.

:brix:
Brilliant! :D

Anyway, the whole story is interesting. Dubinsky not in camp because of contract dispute... Gaborik not in camp because of injury (oh, what a surprise :roll: )... Tortorella saying that Dubinsky's behaviour is stupid and that his agent is stupid too...

Looks like there's some fun in Rangers Land! :D Not that much on the ice though...
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Danny wrote:http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_spo ... LvW8ClVkdN

The Post has learned that the agent for Nikolai Zherdev, who rejected the Rangers' $3.25 million qualifier and then became a free agent when the team walked away from his $3.9 million arbitration award, called the club this week offering to return for $3.25 million. The offer was refused.

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Sather.......making a smart decision??? I think the Apocalypse is right around the corner folks. Been nice knowing ya :-D
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Does this make Zherdev a FA...?
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Zherdev has been a UFA for a while now. Ever since the Rangers walked away from his arbitration award a month or so ago. Every team in the league has had their chance to offer him a deal. I'm guessing he didn't get any to his liking because he's going back to the Rangers with his tail between his legs.
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I'm surprised he hasn't ended up in Russia yet...
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On a side note Mark Parrish is in Vancouver on a tryout and Petr Sykora in in Minnesota on a tryout.
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eric1985 wrote:On a side note Mark Parrish is in Vancouver on a tryout and Petr Sykora in in Minnesota on a tryout.
Petr Sykora signed with Minnesota normal full-year contract, not a tryout.
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McQwak wrote:
eric1985 wrote:On a side note Mark Parrish is in Vancouver on a tryout and Petr Sykora in in Minnesota on a tryout.
Petr Sykora signed with Minnesota normal full-year contract, not a tryout.
no, it's a try-out
http://wild.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=49 ... in-home-dl
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Manimal wrote:
McQwak wrote:
eric1985 wrote:On a side note Mark Parrish is in Vancouver on a tryout and Petr Sykora in in Minnesota on a tryout.
Petr Sykora signed with Minnesota normal full-year contract, not a tryout.
no, it's a try-out
http://wild.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=49 ... in-home-dl
I read this, but it's wrong. He signed for the whole year.
http://hokej.idnes.cz/sykora-kyvnul-min ... 59_nhl_lge or http://hokej.idnes.cz/malem-jsem-nastou ... 41_nhl_cig (I know you might not understand, sorry :-p)
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Seems like Zherdev finally goes to Russia, he sign a contract with the Atlant Mytishchi. The GM of the team, Gennady Nabatov, says that Zherdev will be : ''The player with the biggest salary in the team.'' Finally another little baby out of the NHL, goodbye we will not miss you! Great talent, no brain......
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If he wants to play in his home country, it doesn't mean that he is stupid. He just want to be near his family. I think it's good decision, if he earns more in KHL than in NHL, especially cause Americans don't like him, they call him baby and flegmatic stupid like other Russian, cause he is from Russia. He scored more points in Rangers than anyone else last year and nobody called Drury, Gomez, Näslund, Mara but nobody called them baby or said that they were flegmatic last year and didn't score much points. It's not easy to be Russian player in America. You remember cold war etc. (quite off topic).
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Jypfan92 wrote:If he wants to play in his home country, it doesn't mean that he is stupid. He just want to be near his family. I think it's good decision, if he earns more in KHL than in NHL, especially cause Americans don't like him, they call him baby and flegmatic stupid like other Russian, cause he is from Russia. He scored more points in Rangers than anyone else last year and nobody called Drury, Gomez, Näslund, Mara but nobody called them baby or said that they were flegmatic last year and didn't score much points. It's not easy to be Russian player in America. You remember cold war etc. (quite off topic).

I don't know where you see i generalize all Russian player. Plus, i use to like Zherdev when he was at CLB because of is great talent. My fav players are Kovalchuk and Ovechkin. :-D In fact Zherdev in the past got some problem in Russia because he sign a contract with CLB without complete is military training or something like this, i think it's prove that he wants to play in North America, but now after refusing the offer the Rangers gave him ( like only 800 000 less ) i think i could say he just want the cash, that's when i called them baby's, just like i call Kessel ( go read the page before ) So i'm not defending any North American player, you start to invented a couple of things my friend....
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I think Zherdev is just a bit difficult. Teams have recently started to think about what they really need instead of just looking for talent on the market. And many players still don't get it. They look for the big money, but in the salary cap era you should either have super skills or be able to fill a role on the team.. like checking forward.

Zherdev is talented but he lacks the determination that you need to play on the first line and you can't place him on the checking line either. And to spend more than 3 millions for a second line player who had just one positive +/- season in his career is just too risky.

There is so much great talent coming up in recent draft years, teams rather would spend their bucks on those young cheap guys instead of players like Zherdev, Tanguay.
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Vermette signed a 5 year extension with the Blue Jackets. 5 years, $3.75M per year.

Also, the voice of the Bruins, Fred Cusick, passed away yesterday at the age of 90. He was the voice of the Boston Bruins for almost 50 years. He started doing them on radio after returning from WWII and eventually did the play by play for them on TV. He retired from doing Bruins games back in the 90's but did AHL (Lowell Lock Monsters) after that for a while. He was the first American broadcaster inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame. I grew up listening to this guy call the Bruins games and to this day, he is the standard I compare all other play-by-play guys to. None compare. RIP, Fred.
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Bret Hedican retires. He was unrated defensive defenceman, i think.
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bruins72 wrote:Vermette signed a 5 year extension with the Blue Jackets. 5 years, $3.75M per year.
Speaking of paying a 2nd/3rd liner $3+ million a year! Don't like this deal.
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As McQwak was saying last week but this was an error, Petr Sykora finally sign a contract qith the Wild, 1.6 millions for 1 year. They add a great veteran there.

Afinogenov will have a try with the Thrashers, he will play tomorrow or tonight i think and if he impress the organisation maybe he could get a contract.
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The local Boston media folks are saying that Kessel will be traded sometime in the next week. Good riddance to him! I hope they get a proper return though. The teams they mentioned as being in the mix were Toronto, NY Rangers, Nashville, and Minnesota. I had heard talk about the first three but this is the first time I've heard Minnesota mentioned as a suitor.
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