I got some 3rd liners 100+ and 4th liners 50+ with blackhawks on original db, but that's another thingy.Wroom wrote:Well. I'm playing with a couple contender teams, one of them beeing hugely favorites. So, kind of hard to compare.pebsykid wrote:Just downloaded your tactic. I am slowly rebuilding the Wild (aka tanking the first few years) Anyways I am looking to run a three very very offensive young lines and a shutdown/goon line as my 4th. Anyways I was wondering if you could tell me about how many goals on average you score a season and what does the points look like for your 1-2-3 lines, also what % your PP is hitting at. You can take screenies if you wish. Thanks for any help. Just looking for the best tactic for my plan with this squad.
The best team have:
Some 74 wins a season
Goal difference of around 460-155 (+/-)
PP last 8 seasons : 22.01%, 18.34%, 26.07%, 27.19%, 27.80%, 21.57%, 21.71%, 22.97%, 26.32%(15games)
PK last 8 seasons : 80.10%, 87.79%, 88.61%, 91.81%, 88.64%, 88.22%, 91.22%, 89.69%, 91.53%(15games)
First line: about 170-200-145 in points. Often more on two of them.
Second line: 70-115-60
Third line: Around 40 points all over.
The second team:
65 wins a season(+/-)
375-180
PP : 17.79, 20.96, 21.21, 19.76, 25.00, 18.10, 17.00, 17.76, 21.33(15 games)
PK : 72.15, 85.59, 87.20, 87.33, 89.64, 89.77, 87.86, 89.63, 80.90(15 games)
First line: 125-160-145
Second line: 60-75-55
Third line: 25-30-25
I think you will be around 280-320 in goals, 17,5%-73,5% PP-PK
Perhaps worse.
Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
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Given this tactic a try for the last two seasons in the QMJHL with the Saint John Sea Dogs. Managed to win the President's Trophy and reached the final of the Memorial Cup on two occasions only to lose both times.
My record stands as follows:
2009-10 70GP-46W-14L-5OTL-5SOL .729PCT 260GF 206GA
2010-11 70GP-48W-19L-0OTL-3SOL .707PCT 259GF 189GA
2011-12 29GP-23W-6L-0OTL-0SOL .793PCT 121GF 75GA
My record stands as follows:
2009-10 70GP-46W-14L-5OTL-5SOL .729PCT 260GF 206GA
2010-11 70GP-48W-19L-0OTL-3SOL .707PCT 259GF 189GA
2011-12 29GP-23W-6L-0OTL-0SOL .793PCT 121GF 75GA
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I won the stanley with 78-2-2 record.richardfburton wrote:Given this tactic a try for the last two seasons in the QMJHL with the Saint John Sea Dogs. Managed to win the President's Trophy and reached the final of the Memorial Cup on two occasions only to lose both times.
My record stands as follows:
2009-10 70GP-46W-14L-5OTL-5SOL .729PCT 260GF 206GA
2010-11 70GP-48W-19L-0OTL-3SOL .707PCT 259GF 189GA
2011-12 29GP-23W-6L-0OTL-0SOL .793PCT 121GF 75GA
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Tactic here!watts555 wrote:could you re-upload please?
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That's pretty good. You just tied my second bestaxwel3221 wrote:I won the stanley with 78-2-2 record.richardfburton wrote:Given this tactic a try for the last two seasons in the QMJHL with the Saint John Sea Dogs. Managed to win the President's Trophy and reached the final of the Memorial Cup on two occasions only to lose both times.
My record stands as follows:
2009-10 70GP-46W-14L-5OTL-5SOL .729PCT 260GF 206GA
2010-11 70GP-48W-19L-0OTL-3SOL .707PCT 259GF 189GA
2011-12 29GP-23W-6L-0OTL-0SOL .793PCT 121GF 75GA
What points totals on the players did you get? Team?
And how did it go with the Wild-team?
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Wroom wrote:That's pretty good. You just tied my second bestaxwel3221 wrote:I won the stanley with 78-2-2 record.richardfburton wrote:Given this tactic a try for the last two seasons in the QMJHL with the Saint John Sea Dogs. Managed to win the President's Trophy and reached the final of the Memorial Cup on two occasions only to lose both times.
My record stands as follows:
2009-10 70GP-46W-14L-5OTL-5SOL .729PCT 260GF 206GA
2010-11 70GP-48W-19L-0OTL-3SOL .707PCT 259GF 189GA
2011-12 29GP-23W-6L-0OTL-0SOL .793PCT 121GF 75GA
What points totals on the players did you get? Team?
And how did it go with the Wild-team?
Devils. Brodeur GAA 0.74 and 1st line center Gomez 244 points. Don't have that save anymore, I think I'm starting a new one.
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yea true, could you re-upload? Link isnt working anymore:
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Jenkki wrote:Could you please re-upload the tactic. Cant see the screenies =/
Ronc wrote:yea true, could you re-upload? Link isnt working anymore:
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See post over
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Ok, re-uploaded the pictures. I think most of it should be set-up in the tactic. Look it over if you downloaded it and gave it a go. Just quoting the first post under this:
Okey, made a tactic during my playing time. Pretty extreme someone would say. But again, easy and not big adjustments all the time
The point of this tactic is to have a high pressure and heavy load of shots at the net. Win the puck and set up the play and shoot, or just find fast passing options and shoot.
What kind of players do you need in this one:
- Three good centers atleast (To get TOP performance)
- Pacy wingers
- Top pair d-men(atleast one Norris-candidate)
- Very good core second pair d-men
- Good goaltender
I play with 4 offensive lines and 3 d-men pairs.
All lines have their center as playmaker and mostly he takes the faceoffs.
All offensive players have:

Only if an offensive guy is young and not so good, you remove carry puck.
In a d-men pair. Usually I have one of them to join the rush and one to stay back. And one or both to shoot. Very often both(because of offensive faceoff to point shot).
- Be aware, Most of the time when you change lineup because of injuries or just changing lines. These go away, and you have to do them again.
The tactics for 1-4 lines is all the same:

Only difference is that 1st. line have 60sec shifts, 2rd and 3rd have 40sec shifts and 4th have 30sec shifts.
Power Play(5v4 and 5v3):
- 1st line 60sec
- 2rd line 40sec

Penalty Kill:
- No playmaker on PK

Penalty Kill 3v5:
- No playmaking on PK

Even Strength:
- No playmaking(questionable, you could try it if you want)
- 1st line 60sec shift
- 2rd line 40sec shift

Give it a go if you want, if you don't care...read the next topic.
I have had success with this tactic in NHL, SEL, AHL and Norwegian Get-league.
Other people have had success in DEL, English league and other lower american/canadian leagues.
Okey, made a tactic during my playing time. Pretty extreme someone would say. But again, easy and not big adjustments all the time
The point of this tactic is to have a high pressure and heavy load of shots at the net. Win the puck and set up the play and shoot, or just find fast passing options and shoot.
What kind of players do you need in this one:
- Three good centers atleast (To get TOP performance)
- Pacy wingers
- Top pair d-men(atleast one Norris-candidate)
- Very good core second pair d-men
- Good goaltender
I play with 4 offensive lines and 3 d-men pairs.
All lines have their center as playmaker and mostly he takes the faceoffs.
All offensive players have:
Only if an offensive guy is young and not so good, you remove carry puck.
In a d-men pair. Usually I have one of them to join the rush and one to stay back. And one or both to shoot. Very often both(because of offensive faceoff to point shot).
- Be aware, Most of the time when you change lineup because of injuries or just changing lines. These go away, and you have to do them again.
The tactics for 1-4 lines is all the same:
Only difference is that 1st. line have 60sec shifts, 2rd and 3rd have 40sec shifts and 4th have 30sec shifts.
Power Play(5v4 and 5v3):
- 1st line 60sec
- 2rd line 40sec
Penalty Kill:
- No playmaker on PK
Penalty Kill 3v5:
- No playmaking on PK
Even Strength:
- No playmaking(questionable, you could try it if you want)
- 1st line 60sec shift
- 2rd line 40sec shift
Give it a go if you want, if you don't care...read the next topic.
I have had success with this tactic in NHL, SEL, AHL and Norwegian Get-league.
Other people have had success in DEL, English league and other lower american/canadian leagues.
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Thaks for the pics. Before you reposted I have finished my second season with Medvescak (second poorest team in EBEL) and won it with such an ease. Eaven reached finals of continental cup. But... I have added my touch to your tactic. Downloaded it and set all forwards to carry puck and join rush. I didn't set up defenders at all. Other big difference is that I forgot to set any of my forwards or defenders to shoot. They were all set to pass.
Started third season and it is even better. 20 wins and 5 losses. Took over Austria u20 and have scored 7 wins and 1 draw and won division 1 qualufication.
Also I turn around many games. If i am loseing I shuffle my lines a bit. Those with low marks go to lower line. 2 or 3 max. This usually does the work. My player stats are fantastic. PK is great but PP aint. I will probably set someone to shoot there
Anyway, thanks for this great tactic. I will try to get a job in Ahl and will let you know how it went there.
Started third season and it is even better. 20 wins and 5 losses. Took over Austria u20 and have scored 7 wins and 1 draw and won division 1 qualufication.
Also I turn around many games. If i am loseing I shuffle my lines a bit. Those with low marks go to lower line. 2 or 3 max. This usually does the work. My player stats are fantastic. PK is great but PP aint. I will probably set someone to shoot there
Anyway, thanks for this great tactic. I will try to get a job in Ahl and will let you know how it went there.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Three good centers MUST.Wroom wrote: What kind of players do you need in this one:
- Three good centers atleast (To get TOP performance)
- Pacy wingers
- Top pair d-men(atleast one Norris-candidate)
- Very good core second pair d-men
- Good goaltender
4 scoring and quick wingers, but in 3rd line they can be utility, they'll still score 50 points a season.
First two/three years you can go with like some guy as bad as Jan Hejda in your first pair, but you need a heck of a goalie.
Like original DB Nitty, unfaked/lidas Luongo or Brodeur, you need always a franchise goalie with this tactic, two first years try to draft some good D's, and yeah.
My lines looks lemme think...
Original DB, except made some finnish prospects, PA's like new db's suggest:
Blackhawks 30th March 2017
Heatley - Tavares - Pulkkinen
Hakala (selänne regen) - Voutilainen/Svitov - Kesler
McLaughlin (some 2-way regen) - Svitov/Voutilainen - Bilodeau (Blunden fake name)
Jensen (rookie regen) - Uusitalo (OJ regen) - Ivashkin (some Russian worker regen, I like him
Petrecki - O'Connor (Leetch regen)
Sigalet - McCarthy
Kulda - Katic
6 straight Presidents' and 2 straight Cups and 3 in last 5 years.
All this with PLAYM0VER! FTW HAWKS
EDIT: Original DB, Nitty and Markkanen regen in goal.
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Small update. With this modified tactic I have won 1 Continental Cup and 2 EBEL titles with Medvešcak, 4 Euro challange Groups with Ukraine as well as 1 second and 1 first place in World Chapionship Division 1. Also, won AHL with Manitoba Mosse where I got in mid season.
With this tactic even a rookie like me can look good.
P.S. I write a blog spo you can check stories there.
With this tactic even a rookie like me can look good.
P.S. I write a blog spo you can check stories there.
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Re: Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic
Nice catch to thataxwel3221 wrote:
All this with PLAYM0VER! FTW HAWKS
It was really a shortened word for Playmaking overall.
But, Play-M-Over(Play'emOver) is a nice. Got some sting
Going to read some marecone
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Hey Wroom, thanks for the tactic. It certainly looks like it has the potential to do something for my Blackhawks team.
However, it isn't there yet unfortunately. I'm wildly inconsistent. A big part of this is the amount of penalties that I'm taking (80% PK) and a horrible PP (14%).
Do you have any tips for altering the PP/PK lines and getting them to work? It may just come down to having the wrong players in the wrong spots?
However, it isn't there yet unfortunately. I'm wildly inconsistent. A big part of this is the amount of penalties that I'm taking (80% PK) and a horrible PP (14%).
Do you have any tips for altering the PP/PK lines and getting them to work? It may just come down to having the wrong players in the wrong spots?
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cm_spitfire wrote:Hey Wroom, thanks for the tactic. It certainly looks like it has the potential to do something for my Blackhawks team.
However, it isn't there yet unfortunately. I'm wildly inconsistent. A big part of this is the amount of penalties that I'm taking (80% PK) and a horrible PP (14%).
Do you have any tips for altering the PP/PK lines and getting them to work? It may just come down to having the wrong players in the wrong spots?
First of all, great choice of a team. Second of all, post your roster with lines and db, I could help in some points.
As third, when you get the right players, with this tactic you should let the coach do lines, you do not really need shutdown lines after all it's 4 rolling offensive lines.