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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:06 pm
by zeppelin89
Malone_is_AmericanFinesse wrote:Lidas, excellent work on the roster updates. Thank you for all you have done. I was recommended to post this here for your and, potentially, our benefit...
It comes from this thread:
http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... php?t=5123 - a thread about losing group II restricted free agents to "unsigned prospect" free agency...
My thoughts:
Yeah, this happens to me too. With a lot of the same players that you guys mention. Interestingly, it doesn't seem to happen later on in the game with regen prospects. I don't really know a ton about database entering, but this could have something to do with the history of the player. Let me try to maybe make a suggestion:
In the NHL, you lose a North American player two years after being drafted if he's unsigned (this includes a player like Voracek as he was drafted out of Halifax of the QMJHL). If he's on your farm club for a couple seasons, he's registering little or no NHL time and is lost as an unsigned prospect - not an unrestricted group III free agent (like an UNqualified group II restricted free agent). Leaving as an unsigned prospect in this game does not require the player to re-enter the draft.
My suggestion would be to give these players a proper history or proper experience or something to trick the game into thinking he's played a couple seasons in the NHL.
Or, and additionally, these players would be much easier to re-sign in the first place if they weren't given their whole bonus structure (I've seen some of these bonuses in these contracts, they are nearly impossible to hit, those level 'A' bonuses). There's no reason for Andrew Cogliano to be making $2.25 million or whatever he makes.
Let's come up with a system for future edits:
Tier I prospects get their salary + half of their performance bonus value (Doughty, Bogosian, Stamkos, Voracek etc.)
Tier II prospects get their salary + one-quarter of their performance bonus value (Mikael Backlund, James Neal, Oscar Moller, Max Pacioretty)
Tier III prospects get their salary only (ya know, the rest of them...Evgeni Dadonov, Andrew Cogliano I guess, etc.)
Just something to consider, if you need any help on draft eligible prospects in 2010-2012 or any and all NHL players scouting reports, please don't hesitate to ask!
This may be the problem I have just posted, but nevertheless, has there been a fix for this?
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:30 pm
by empach
zeppelin89 wrote:Hi, I have a quick question. I play this game obsessively (and have been since the days of Smetana's rosters), and I did a quick search of the forums but couldn't find an answer.
Did anyone else notice that so far for the first two years during Free Agency several extremely good young players are available and NOT resigned by their team? I have seem the following:
Kyle Turris
Brandon Sutter
Cody Hodgson
Jonathon Blum
Mikael Backlund
I was wondering if this has been fixed in the newest update.
Thanks!
This has been a problem since EHM2007 came I'm pretty sure. For some reason certain young RFAs will become UFA regardless of whether you gave them their qualifying offer. I've always suspected it was an error in how the game handles group II (I think it's group II) free agents - but I don't really know what it the real cause is.
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 11:28 am
by M Ace
Lidas My Man
Some quick questions;
1. I see in you're database that you don't have set dates when # should be retired, how do you expect them to be
retired in the game?
2. I see that ex. Cam Fowler don't have a WHL Bantam Draft set on him, maybe you don't do the junior drafts?
3. Almost every player don't have rights, is this something you do by propose?
4. Last question; when setting retirements on players at the same date. Is everyone gonna get retired? My experience
is that you have to set diffrent dates so the computer can retire everyone.
Also Ryan Whitney have #6 i Oils and Aaron Johnson #2 in Oils.....
..and when you just edit an excisting player in the database; do you know that he may not be classed as a rookie; ex. Fowler and Galiev as they could get signed in one version of your update? Personally I make a new one when creating rookies and other young players...
Awsome work by the way
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 2:52 pm
by Lidas
M Ace wrote:Lidas My Man
Some quick questions;
1. I see in you're database that you don't have set dates when # should be retired, how do you expect them to be
retired in the game?
It works without setting the dates. They will be retired when the game starts.
M Ace wrote:
2. I see that ex. Cam Fowler don't have a WHL Bantam Draft set on him, maybe you don't do the junior drafts?
No, I dont do the CHL drafts since they dont have any real effect on the game - it's just cosmetics.
M Ace wrote:
3. Almost every player don't have rights, is this something you do by propose?
Yep, I dont need to set them in the DB, the games give rights automatically when the game starts.
M Ace wrote:
4. Last question; when setting retirements on players at the same date. Is everyone gonna get retired? My experience
is that you have to set diffrent dates so the computer can retire everyone.
Yes, they all retire after you sim one day.
M Ace wrote:
Also Ryan Whitney have #6 i Oils and Aaron Johnson #2 in Oils.....
I only update squad number at the beginning of the game - I dont track every transfer and wait until they get assigned new numbers.
M Ace wrote:
..and when you just edit an excisting player in the database; do you know that he may not be classed as a rookie; ex. Fowler and Galiev as they could get signed in one version of your update? Personally I make a new one when creating rookies and other young players...
This has already been fixed.
M Ace wrote:
Awsome work by the way
Glad you like it
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:36 pm
by M Ace
Lidas wrote:M Ace wrote:Lidas My Man
Some quick questions;
1. I see in you're database that you don't have set dates when # should be retired, how do you expect them to be
retired in the game?
It works without setting the dates. They will be retired when the game starts.
Sorry man but just checked, Jörgen Jönsson#21 isn't retired when I started and Kieth Magnuson isn't retired either. This was the two I checked...
I started i Russia August 2nd..
I know I hade the same problem before I put dates on the # retirements.....
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:44 pm
by visualdarkness
M Ace wrote:Lidas wrote:M Ace wrote:Lidas My Man
Some quick questions;
1. I see in you're database that you don't have set dates when # should be retired, how do you expect them to be
retired in the game?
It works without setting the dates. They will be retired when the game starts.
Sorry man but just checked, Jörgen Jönsson#21 isn't retired when I started and Kieth Magnuson isn't retired either. This was the two I checked...
I started i Russia August 2nd..
I know I hade the same problem before I put dates on the # retirements.....
Have you simulated a couple of days forward? I never had problems with Lidas solution with this.
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:47 pm
by M Ace
visualdarkness wrote:M Ace wrote:Lidas wrote:
It works without setting the dates. They will be retired when the game starts.
Sorry man but just checked, Jörgen Jönsson#21 isn't retired when I started and Kieth Magnuson isn't retired either. This was the two I checked...
I started i Russia August 2nd..
I know I hade the same problem before I put dates on the # retirements.....
Have you simulated a couple of days forward? I never had problems with Lidas solution with this.
No, really I didn't maybe that's what the problem is.....
But I know I had problems in my db years ago when starting editing, so I put dates when the jerseys should be retired.
Anyway it's a cool thing when it comes a news message announcing the jersey retirement. But maybe I make to much effort in it
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 3:50 pm
by visualdarkness
Did you tone down Horcoff a couple of more steps? My computer is acting really strange at the moment so I haven't tried the new db yet.
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:45 pm
by djskek
The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:48 pm
by M Ace
djskek wrote:The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Easy boy!
Lidas can't make everybody happy
It's therefor we have more updates on this site, maybe you can be more satisfied with my database, compadre!
If so, PM me
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:58 pm
by djskek
M Ace wrote:djskek wrote:The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Just for info!
Current list:
NHL (Lidas)
NHL Drafts (Lidas)
Swedish Elitserien (Lidas)
Swedish Allsvenskan (Lidas)
Swedish Juniors (Lidas)
Swedish First Division (Reave)
Kontinental Hockey League (Lidas)
Czech O2 Extraliga (McQwak)
Finnish SM-Liiga (Lidas)
Finnish Mestis (Korppu)
Finnish Suomi Division (Korppu)
Deutsche Eishockey Liga (djskek)
Slovakian Slovnaft Estraliga (Mortex)
Swiss National League A (Andyjayp)
Danish AL-Bank Ligaen (Lyager)
Norwegian GET-Ligaen (Andyjayp)
Austrian Erste Bank Eishockey Liga (Andyjayp)
British Leagues (Calv)
Italian Serie A (bestrafer7)
French Magnus League
Slovenian Elite League (bestrafer7)
Dutch Eredivisie
Belarus Hockey League
Estonian Hockey League
Latvian Championship
Kazakhstan Championship
MOL Liga
Panonian League
Asia Hockey League
AHL (Manimal)
ECHL (Manimal)
OHL (Manimal)
WHL (Manimal)
QMJHL (Manimal)
CHL (Manimal)
IHL (Manimal)
NCAA
CIS
USHL (archibalduk)
LNAH
SPHL
I think it's all said!
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 6:59 pm
by M Ace
djskek wrote:M Ace wrote:djskek wrote:The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Just for info!
Current list:
NHL (Lidas)
NHL Drafts (Lidas)
Swedish Elitserien (Lidas)
Swedish Allsvenskan (Lidas)
Swedish Juniors (Lidas)
Swedish First Division (Reave)
Kontinental Hockey League (Lidas)
Czech O2 Extraliga (McQwak)
Finnish SM-Liiga (Lidas)
Finnish Mestis (Korppu)
Finnish Suomi Division (Korppu)
Deutsche Eishockey Liga (djskek)
Slovakian Slovnaft Estraliga (Mortex)
Swiss National League A (Andyjayp)
Danish AL-Bank Ligaen (Lyager)
Norwegian GET-Ligaen (Andyjayp)
Austrian Erste Bank Eishockey Liga (Andyjayp)
British Leagues (Calv)
Italian Serie A (bestrafer7)
French Magnus League
Slovenian Elite League (bestrafer7)
Dutch Eredivisie
Belarus Hockey League
Estonian Hockey League
Latvian Championship
Kazakhstan Championship
MOL Liga
Panonian League
Asia Hockey League
AHL (Manimal)
ECHL (Manimal)
OHL (Manimal)
WHL (Manimal)
QMJHL (Manimal)
CHL (Manimal)
IHL (Manimal)
NCAA
CIS
USHL (archibalduk)
LNAH
SPHL
I think it's all said!
Hahahaha
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:08 pm
by djskek
djskek wrote:The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Not all players, but a few. Especially the german goalkeepers.
I will monitor the situation. Maybe some players do not play regularly.
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:17 pm
by Manimal
djskek wrote:
Not all players, but a few. Especially the german goalkeepers.
I will monitor the situation. Maybe some players do not play regularly.
Sometimes in the game there is a bug that does this(reduce attributes) It has nothing to do with the database. It happens with different ones.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:24 am
by Lidas
visualdarkness wrote:Did you tone down Horcoff a couple of more steps? My computer is acting really strange at the moment so I haven't tried the new db yet.
I actually don't remember... he will be re-evaluated for next version though.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 2:25 am
by Lidas
djskek wrote:The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Interesting since I havent toughed the German players attributes... its all your work then.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 4:44 pm
by djskek
Lidas wrote:djskek wrote:The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Interesting since I havent toughed the German players attributes... its all your work then.
The problem is there but only since 2.3 update. Before that there was no such problems and it was from 2.2 to 2.3 no change in Germany.
Lidas did you generally sometimes what changed in the attributes?
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:02 pm
by CatchUp
djskek wrote:Lidas wrote:djskek wrote:The new update is a disaster!
The attributes of the players in Germany decline rapidly within a year. Total unrealistic and takes any joy in playing.
Interesting since I havent toughed the German players attributes... its all your work then.
The problem is there but only since 2.3 update. Before that there was no such problems and it was from 2.2 to 2.3 no change in Germany.
Lidas did you generally sometimes what changed in the attributes?
Lidas says in the post directly above yours that he did not make any changes to the German League. YOU were responsible the German League.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:28 pm
by djskek
CatchUp wrote:djskek wrote:Lidas wrote:
Interesting since I havent toughed the German players attributes... its all your work then.
The problem is there but only since 2.3 update. Before that there was no such problems and it was from 2.2 to 2.3 no change in Germany.
Lidas did you generally sometimes what changed in the attributes?
Lidas says in the post directly above yours that he did not make any changes to the German League. YOU were responsible the German League.
Yes and I said, the problems are there only since Update 2.3. But I have Update 2.2 to 2.3. nothing changed. For Update 2.2. there were no problems. It could be possible that Lidas was general has changed. Maybe Manimal is right in his assumption.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:07 am
by macdman
if anyone can help please do. I installed the LidasDB2.3 and tryed to start a new game with the NHL, AHL, ECHL, and CHL teams in enhanced mode and no others selected. as well as a canadian start date. it was loading and then came up with a box saying. v3.0.4 usa_echl.cpp 72 can any one help.
It then crashed the game.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:06 pm
by sensguy
Why are the 2007 and 2008 drafts always so awful? Not even the guys in the top 5 turn into decent players.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:12 am
by batdad
Becuase they are awful in real life.
No..it is more because it is really hard to set every new guy the boys create in the db with accurate attributes, so they have to go off a common theme where potential and CA are somewhat randomized. Not totally, but somewhat.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:20 am
by visualdarkness
batdad wrote:Becuase they are awful in real life.
No..it is more because it is really hard to set every new guy the boys create in the db with accurate attributes, so they have to go off a common theme where potential and CA are somewhat randomized. Not totally, but somewhat.
Yeah, and they have lloked really naff for a while because of the regen drafts later. But I think Lidas fixed it somewhat with this update.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:32 am
by ehmfans
Hey Lidas, thanks for the great job!
I think you should review all montreal canadiens, because in the game, Subban sucks, halak sucks, Laraque is still in the team, etc...
thanks!
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:37 am
by empach
Halak has become a pretty solid goaltender within three seasons of my current franchise. He might need a bit of a boost maybe.