[2025-26] xECK29x's Premier Pivot Database (v10.0.3 - 7/29/25)
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Sounds like possibly an invalid Preferred Job setting (which shouldn't be an issue if you're using the latest version of the Editor) or possibly a mismatch between the Job For Club and Classification. I'll take a look at the publicly available v2.3.2 DB tomorrow.
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
It looks like the following two players have an invalid Job For Club. Try changing these to "Player":
Michael Francess 16.3.1986
Jack Burton 25.9.1992
I can't test whether this will fix it right this moment as I'm simming in order to diagnose the Swedish crash with the TBL Rosters, so I thought I'd post this just in the meantime. I'll modify the Editor so that such a mismatch cannot happen (i.e. it'll automatically fix it).
Edit: I have improved the validation in the Editor such that the above players' Jobs will be auto-fixed.
Michael Francess 16.3.1986
Jack Burton 25.9.1992
I can't test whether this will fix it right this moment as I'm simming in order to diagnose the Swedish crash with the TBL Rosters, so I thought I'd post this just in the meantime. I'll modify the Editor so that such a mismatch cannot happen (i.e. it'll automatically fix it).
Edit: I have improved the validation in the Editor such that the above players' Jobs will be auto-fixed.
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Thanks archi, let me try that!
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
When the new update comes, will player attributes be increased/decreased?
I want to do a rangers sim next so I’m wondering if guys like Chytil and Andersson have been increased and all that
I want to do a rangers sim next so I’m wondering if guys like Chytil and Andersson have been increased and all that
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Maybe, honestly a release is more looking like 'if' instead of 'when' at the momentaidanmac22 wrote:When the new update comes, will player attributes be increased/decreased?
I want to do a rangers sim next so I’m wondering if guys like Chytil and Andersson have been increased and all that

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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Wait, so can I play 2.3.2 without crashing?
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
At the moment no. I have the issue isolated to a problem with one or many staff it's just going to take me a while to comb through the 53k+ staff in the database with Archi to determine the bug. I also don't have as much free time recently so I can't dedicate as much time as I'd like to at the moment to this.aidanmac22 wrote:Wait, so can I play 2.3.2 without crashing?
2.2 is the latest "stable" release, that can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ij0kh82etd0ba ... 2.zip?dl=0
I am working on bringing over all the updates I had done in 2.3.x over to the 2.2 roster, which will be released as 2.4.
Appreciate everyone's patience with this, truly.
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
We appreciate you! Tons of respect for all the hard work you've done. Patience is the least we could give you.
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)

It appears the bug may well be squashed. I am continuing my data migration but doing it carefully as if I run into this condition again I know how to handle it.
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Thank you very much (and Archibalduk) for putting the time in to figure out the bug! Hope everything goes smoothly for you.xECK29x wrote:
It appears the bug may well be squashed. I am continuing my data migration but doing it carefully as if I run into this condition again I know how to handle it.
Excited to be able to use your updated rosters! Thank you for all the time you've put into these.
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Confirmed, issue is 100% tied to having staff contracted to National Teams, this became a problem post my Olympic team update. It looks like I can just undo these assignments and re-release a fixed roster, however, I want to make sure I do some more long term testing with multiple leagues selected first. Also, being I haven't really "worked" on the roster for most of the month of March I am pretty behind on some of the latest transactions. I'd also like to update 1-2 more NHL/AHL/ECHL teams so I'm going to shoot for having a 2.4 release by mid-next week at the latest.
Thanks again for the support, hope to have you guys simming away soon!
Thanks again for the support, hope to have you guys simming away soon!
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Let's Gooooo! Amazing work fellas!
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Fantastic! I am glad you got to the bottom of this. I have been scratching my head over this one for the past two or three weekends. It didn't occur to me that contracting staff to nations would be the cause. We need to do some more testing with the national team contracts as it something pretty new to us (the Pre-Game Editor for 2007 didn't have the capability to edit national team contracts in EHM 2007).
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Glad to have been of help! So far things have been pretty stable, still get a random crash here or there but it appears to be just either my hardware or the game itself but I've had a few pretty stable quick sims with NHL/AHL/ECHL all selected well into 2021.archibalduk wrote:Fantastic! I am glad you got to the bottom of this. I have been scratching my head over this one for the past two or three weekends. It didn't occur to me that contracting staff to nations would be the cause. We need to do some more testing with the national team contracts as it something pretty new to us (the Pre-Game Editor for 2007 didn't have the capability to edit national team contracts in EHM 2007).
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Performing some further testing, but pretty close to what I will be calling a 2.3.8 release (likely one or two more small releases until 2.4 for Steam).
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Nice! Looking forward to it.
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.2 - 3/5)
Download: http://bit.ly/2GRoIQD
Ok everyone, thank you first and foremost for your patience, although the crashing SUCKED it helped identify some interesting things about National Teams in the game. This release has been tested using automated quick sims with the NHL, AHL and ECHL selected and I have had minimal crashing (sometimes in mid-Feburary or late December). Please ensure you have ROLLING SAVES enabled in your game, sometimes you are able to sim through crash events by choosing an older game (upwards of a month back from the event) and just keep trying to sim past it.
Here is 2.3.8, it's a fixed release with the following:
- Fixed crashing in mid-July 2018 caused by staff assignments to National Teams
- Updated transactions for multiple leagues - a lot of ELCs from college UFAs/prospects turning pro - This means a few teams are over 50 contracts to start, the AI will cut some low-quality AHL players
- Fixed some rookie status (McDavid/Mantha/Schwartz etc.), i hope, this is actually an EHM bug but I was sure to go back in the DB and ensure the season accrual counts were proper, if you see others please report them!
- Added Colorado Thunderbirds Bantam (Tier 1 Elite Bantam Major)
- Added Omaha Lancers AAA Bantam and created HPHL Bantam Major (will be adding more teams)
- A bunch of other little fixes/updates here and there
- Updated Calgary Flames (incl. Stockton/Adirondack) and Philadelphia Flyers (incl. Lehigh Valley/Reading)
To-Do:
-- To do in NA:
-- Finish remaining NHL teams (w/ AHL/ECHL affiliates) that need history updates and refreshes (only a few remaining)
--- Create MassSelect league (Retire Empire Junior B)
--- Fix USNDP
--- Fix OMAHA
--- Add Upper Midwest HS Elite League Hockey (UMHSEHL)
--- Add MidWEST Prep league (might not be do-able)
--- Update AYHL (U16/U18/bantam)
--- Add California High School Hockey
--- Create teams for Tier 1 and HPHL Bantam tiers
--- Add missing Tier 1 and HPHL Teams
--- Prep for 2018 start date
-- To-Do for Europe:
--- Start updating leagues (will post a poll)
Ok everyone, thank you first and foremost for your patience, although the crashing SUCKED it helped identify some interesting things about National Teams in the game. This release has been tested using automated quick sims with the NHL, AHL and ECHL selected and I have had minimal crashing (sometimes in mid-Feburary or late December). Please ensure you have ROLLING SAVES enabled in your game, sometimes you are able to sim through crash events by choosing an older game (upwards of a month back from the event) and just keep trying to sim past it.
Here is 2.3.8, it's a fixed release with the following:
- Fixed crashing in mid-July 2018 caused by staff assignments to National Teams
- Updated transactions for multiple leagues - a lot of ELCs from college UFAs/prospects turning pro - This means a few teams are over 50 contracts to start, the AI will cut some low-quality AHL players
- Fixed some rookie status (McDavid/Mantha/Schwartz etc.), i hope, this is actually an EHM bug but I was sure to go back in the DB and ensure the season accrual counts were proper, if you see others please report them!
- Added Colorado Thunderbirds Bantam (Tier 1 Elite Bantam Major)
- Added Omaha Lancers AAA Bantam and created HPHL Bantam Major (will be adding more teams)
- A bunch of other little fixes/updates here and there
- Updated Calgary Flames (incl. Stockton/Adirondack) and Philadelphia Flyers (incl. Lehigh Valley/Reading)
To-Do:
-- To do in NA:
-- Finish remaining NHL teams (w/ AHL/ECHL affiliates) that need history updates and refreshes (only a few remaining)
--- Create MassSelect league (Retire Empire Junior B)
--- Fix USNDP
--- Fix OMAHA
--- Add Upper Midwest HS Elite League Hockey (UMHSEHL)
--- Add MidWEST Prep league (might not be do-able)
--- Update AYHL (U16/U18/bantam)
--- Add California High School Hockey
--- Create teams for Tier 1 and HPHL Bantam tiers
--- Add missing Tier 1 and HPHL Teams
--- Prep for 2018 start date
-- To-Do for Europe:
--- Start updating leagues (will post a poll)
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8 - 4/1)
Just as a heads up on the extra.config file there's no year after the cap hit for Cogliano so he'll be a UFA after the first season as is
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8 - 4/1)
Thanks! Noted and fixed, please keep pointing stuff out like this, lot of bases for me to cover as just one guy.Moses Doughty wrote:Just as a heads up on the extra.config file there's no year after the cap hit for Cogliano so he'll be a UFA after the first season as is
To fix this yourself open extra_config and look for this line: "CONTRACT_EXTENSION" "Andrew" "Cogliano" "Anaheim Ducks" 3250000 and add " 3" to the end of it
"CONTRACT_EXTENSION" "Andrew" "Cogliano" "Anaheim Ducks" 3250000 3
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8 - 4/1)
xECK29x wrote:Thanks! Noted and fixed, please keep pointing stuff out like this, lot of bases for me to cover as just one guy.Moses Doughty wrote:Just as a heads up on the extra.config file there's no year after the cap hit for Cogliano so he'll be a UFA after the first season as is
To fix this yourself open extra_config and look for this line: "CONTRACT_EXTENSION" "Andrew" "Cogliano" "Anaheim Ducks" 3250000 and add " 3" to the end of it
"CONTRACT_EXTENSION" "Andrew" "Cogliano" "Anaheim Ducks" 3250000 3
No worries! Assumed you'd notice it at some point but just in case, and wasn't sure if it would mess with the ability to sign him if it wasn't added in. And just a quick question, what are Mackinnon's CA/PA? I'm on a Mac so I can't find the DB in my files but it seems weird since his start-game CA/PA has been in the 110s/120s. Not sure if it's bad luck of the draw for him or he has a more variable negative number
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8 - 4/1)
Well....that's....hmmmm, give me a few to figure out what is going on, the editor isn't saving changes to him for some reason might be something wrong with his record in the DB. His PA/CA is set to 112/122 for some reason with mostly blank stats, this is NOT how he was previously.
I'll pull the links for now and get a fixed version posted.
SORRY!
I'll pull the links for now and get a fixed version posted.
SORRY!
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8 - 4/1)
I changed it in the saved game editor and it seemed to stick, but I haven't had time to sim so I can see if that reverts back as well. His reputation numbers and roles seem to be more in line with a high CA/PA player than the 112/122xECK29x wrote:Well....that's....hmmmm, give me a few to figure out what is going on, the editor isn't saving changes to him for some reason might be something wrong with his record in the DB. His PA/CA is set to 112/122 for some reason with mostly blank stats, this is NOT how he was previously.
I'll pull the links for now and get a fixed version posted.
SORRY!
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8 - 4/1)
Ok fixed, 2.3.8.1 here: http://bit.ly/2GRoIQD
Thanks for pointing those issues out, sorry again!
He should have been 172/-10
Thanks for pointing those issues out, sorry again!
He should have been 172/-10
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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8-1 - 4/2)
Have downloaded your roster and checked it out. Looks good! Will start a save with it and will be posting here if something is/feels wrong.
Much appreciated. Impressed!
Much appreciated. Impressed!

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Re: [2017-18] xECK29x Premier Pivot Rosters (2.3.8-1 - 4/2)
Enjoy!88_06_12 wrote:Have downloaded your roster and checked it out. Looks good! Will start a save with it and will be posting here if something is/feels wrong.
Much appreciated. Impressed!