Official™ NHL Trades/Deadline Deals Thread

flea · Post by **flea** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:01 am

Systemfel wrote:It's not a 1st, it's a 4th rounder. So big shocker, HockeyBuzz.com was wrong.

http://www.bostonbruins.com/blog/

Uffff, I feel better now

No way Kobasew and Ference are worth a first round draft pick IMO.

...and its only if the CANT resign him.

Post by **CatchUp** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:33 am

yep, trusty Eklund is off base again.

He has corrected his blog.

In all honesty, if I were someone in the know and I got a call from Eklund, I would feed him

rumours just to make him look dumb.

Cheers.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:46 am

flea wrote:
Systemfel wrote:It's not a 1st, it's a 4th rounder. So big shocker, HockeyBuzz.com was wrong.

http://www.bostonbruins.com/blog/
Uffff, I feel better now No way Kobasew and Ference are worth a first round draft pick IMO.

...and its only if the CANT resign him.

Yeah, that's not bad. I can see doing that. We got a 4th for Jurcina, right? No way those guys are worth a 1st, even if we hadn't sent them anything in return.

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:09 pm

Coyotes fire sale begins. Get em while they are hot! 'Cause we all loves hot dogs!

And this time there is a first round pick. From Dallas to Phoenix.

Systemfel · Post by **Systemfel** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:18 pm

Dallas trades 1st rounder and Mathias Tjärnqvist to Phoenix in exchange for Ladislav Nagy.

A bit less than I expected.

Edit: OK, already posted.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:41 pm

That's a pretty good deal for the Coyotes. It didn't look like they were going to be able to afford to re-sign Nagy, if he was even interested in re-signing with them. Tjarnqvist is just a throw in. That 1st round pick is a pretty nice return on a guy you were going to get nothing for when he left over the summer.

Post by **Minstrel** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:16 pm

Agreed; nice deal for the Yotes.

Nagy has fallen off the face of the planet so they're lucky to find someone willing to bank on the mythical "what was" instead of offering in the value range of a third liner who can score. It's a pretty spectacular slide Nagy has been on but then that's happened with a lot of player in Phoenix who should be doing better than they are.

Makes you wonder who their coach is and why he can't get more out of these guys...

Post by **batdad** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:24 pm

It sure does. Phoenix should have been way ahead of where they are. But then again it is Phoenix. Lots to do there for the boyz. Can anyone see Bert as a Yote next season? I sure do. Wayne was widdled they did not get him from the Nucks when Van made the Florida trade. It will be one hell of a golf party down there if Bert does go there.

Post by **Minstrel** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:38 pm

Given the players they brought in this year including Nolan and Roenick I can totally see Bertuzzi as a Yote next year. I'm really interested though in what happens with Doan... I think he'd be a major impact player on a team that he knows isn't a joke.

Speaking of players not playing up to potential will anyone be willing to sign on the dotted waiver claim line to inheret Sergei Samsonov and his $3.5 million dollar contract? I say he clears on Wednesday unclaimed and becomes the first official victim of the "no dead money" era. If Montreal were able to eat any of that contract to soften the blow I bet they could have found someone willing to take a chance on him. But since teams can no longer "eat" salary under the new CBA this is going to happen with more and more players I'd guess.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:58 pm

Minstrel wrote:Given the players they brought in this year including Nolan and Roenick I can totally see Bertuzzi as a Yote next year. I'm really interested though in what happens with Doan... I think he'd be a major impact player on a team that he knows isn't a joke.

Speaking of players not playing up to potential will anyone be willing to sign on the dotted waiver claim line to inheret Sergei Samsonov and his $3.5 million dollar contract? I say he clears on Wednesday unclaimed and becomes the first official victim of the "no dead money" era. If Montreal were able to eat any of that contract to soften the blow I bet they could have found someone willing to take a chance on him. But since teams can no longer "eat" salary under the new CBA this is going to happen with more and more players I'd guess.

I'd love to see the Bruins pick up Doan in the off-season. He's the type of player we could really use!

As for Samsonov... he's fallen a long way since the Bruins traded him to Edmonton at the deadlie. The Habs paid him way too much. I kind of wonder if he'd be better someplace else. He just might not be a good fit there. I've heard a lot of talk about Detroit being a good place for him. Montreal can "eat" some of his salary by bring him back up through waivers again, right? They pay a certain percentage and the team that claims him pays the rest, right? I'm sure the owners would love to have their cap work like the NFL's. If you don't want a player anymore, you can cut him at no cost against the cap and no more money paid to the player. There's no way the Players' Union would've agreed to that though.

Post by **CatchUp** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:22 pm

Minstrel wrote:Speaking of players not playing up to potential will anyone be willing to sign on the dotted waiver claim line to inheret Sergei Samsonov and his $3.5 million dollar contract? I say he clears on Wednesday unclaimed and becomes the first official victim of the "no dead money" era. If Montreal were able to eat any of that contract to soften the blow I bet they could have found someone willing to take a chance on him. But since teams can no longer "eat" salary under the new CBA this is going to happen with more and more players I'd guess.

I'm confused....didn't he already clear waivers? Have they put him on again and I'm just missing something?

Cheers.

Post by **Minstrel** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:52 pm

I had my weeks confused, I remember reading on Roto that he was set to clear wed

so the question is already answered, no takers. They could send him down to clear him off their Cap totals but if he were to be placed on re-entry waivers anyone could claim him and they'd each have to pay half. I don't think that's likely as they'd have little to no controlover who he went to so they'd be better off getting something instead of paying half his salary to be rid of him.

Post by **Shadd666** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:11 pm

I'm really surprised at how bad Samsonov turned since he left Boston. And surprised that he never fit well at Montréal along with Koivu and Kovalev.

And he's under contract for the next season with the Habs

Back on Wings-Yotes deal, it's a good one for the Yotes for sure! But i don't really see the interset of the Red Wings in this trade

Sounds like a gamble of seeing Nagy back to his highest level with the Wings... Some gambled on Samsonov, and we see the result...

Post by **CatchUp** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:20 pm

Shadd666 wrote:Back on Wings-Yotes deal, it's a good one for the Yotes for sure! But i don't really see the interset of the Red Wings in this trade Sounds like a gamble of seeing Nagy back to his highest level with the Wings... Some gambled on Samsonov, and we see the result...

Nagy went to the Stars.

Cheers.

Post by **Minstrel** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:22 pm

Shadd666 wrote:Back on Wings-Yotes deal, it's a good one for the Yotes for sure! But i don't really see the interset of the Red Wings in this trade Sounds like a gamble of seeing Nagy back to his highest level with the Wings... Some gambled on Samsonov, and we see the result...

You're right the Wings get absolutely nothing in this deal; but mainly that's because the deal was with Dallas

But thanks for covering for my misjudging the weeks now I don't feel so bad.

Post by **Shadd666** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:28 pm

Oops

I was watching Systemfel avatar near of the trade annoucement, which confused me

Wings or Stars, doesn't matter!

I don't think Nagy deserves a 1st rounder...

Post by **CatchUp** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:31 pm

Shadd666 wrote:Oops I was watching Systemfel avatar near of the trade annoucement, which confused me

Wings or Stars, doesn't matter! I don't think Nagy deserves a 1st rounder...

Not this year maybe...

But if he can regain his scoring touch and he re-signs with the Stars, I think they'll be pretty happy with losing their 1st rounder.

Personally, I wish Montreal would have traded for him. I would have happily given our 1st rounder. Nagy-Koivu-Kovalev is tasty. Much tastier then Samsonov.

Cheers.

Post by **Minstrel** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:53 am

CatchUp wrote:Nagy-Koivu-Kovalev is tasty. Much tastier then Samsonov.

I can't argue with his being an imporvement over Samsonov, but that line would be a great EHM line but a horrific real life line. What exactly would be gained from putting two guys that should score 50 a year but can't/won't/don't care to on the same line with Nagy and Kovalev?? What Nagy needs is to be with for example Modano and Lindros (when healthy), a playmaker and a guy who can fight for pucks to feed said playmaker and allow Nagy to be a finisher. Put two guys that are great when playing with good playmakers together with a 5'8" center and you've got a nightmare IMHO.

Post by **CatchUp** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:52 am

Point Minty. 15-Love

I just mentioned in the Games Discussion thread that MTL needs to aquire a top-notch hardworking player to inspire the rest of the team......and now good ole' Eklund is saying they are about to trade for Horcoff from EDM. This is exactly what I'm talking about! Horcoff is the kind of hard worker the Habs NEED right now.

Unfortunetely, Eklund is also saying K-Lowe is asking for Markov coming back to EDM. That's a deal-breaker right there if I'm Gainey. The Habs can't move the puck out of their zone without Markov. He's one of the most under appreciated d-men in the league, IMO.

Here's what I would lay on the table:

Streit, Perezhogin, PICK/s for Horcoff

Word? word.

Cheers.

Post by **batdad** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:03 am

Sorry to belabour a point I made in the other thread. Horcoff will not help Montreal. Not just because of the other thread point, but he has not exactly been good in Edmonton. He has taken several nights off this season, as have many Oilers (Joffrey ... I am looking at you). A change of scenery to a screaming coach is not going to change the way Horc is playing. Plus if he does go to Montreal, I have to make a change in the hockey pool (may have to anyway). Plus...EKLUND???? Heh. Is he plus 20 or -5 to go to Montreal?

And if he does: Edmonton will have an injured Stoll, Reasoner and who to play centre? Not likely. If it does happen, I will gladly eat my post. And change my hockey pool.

Post by **CatchUp** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:26 am

man, I'm not doing well lately making any points that don't get shot to pieces 2 minutes after I post them.

batdad, I hate to say it, but the more I think about it, the more I think you're right on the money. What other reason could there be for the lack of effort? In my mind, Carbs would have had to tick off Koivu for this to have gotten as bad as it clearly has. For the last few seasons he HAS been the leader in the Habs room. The younger players (Ryder, Higgins, et al) seemed to follow his lead and the older vets gave him the respect he deserved. Koivu's play, to me, is the most distressing. In the last month : 1-2-3 -10

Those lonely three points all came on the powerplay. Koivu hasn't had an even strength point in a month. Maybe longer (I'm too lazy to look -

) Granted, the All-Star break factors into that month.

I think I'm going to be lose my lunch.

On a positive note for you, batdad, the VanCity boys pulled out another one. Looks like Luongo is one of those rare athletes that makes good on his guarentees.

Cheers.

Post by **batdad** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:53 am

Sorry catchup. I don't mean to be mean. Really.

. I hope I am wrong. Guy is a good guy...but I don't think he relates well to offensive minded players anymore, if he ever did.

But why do you hate to say I am right???? I know, I know...cause I have not asked for you to do an avatar for me? Will you,...... please?????

BRULE

Or is it cause I am obnoxious...sorry.

And it was an hour and a half...not 2 minutes this time.

Post by **batdad** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:14 am

Foppa a Pred?!

rubbish that was alot to pay! Foppa pulled from Flyer lineup tonite. Sounds done according to B. McKenzie

Post by **CatchUp** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:13 am

Preds dealt away a big chunk of the future today. Parent AND Upshall plus the 2 picks?!

They overpaid. And it will really stink if Foppa doesn't re-sign.

Cheers.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:33 am

The Flyers got themselves one heck of a good deal there! Sure, the 1st round pick they got is practically a 2nd rounder if you look at the Preds in the standings... but still! Nashville gave up an awful lot for a oft-injured rental. They must be confident that they can resign him and he'll be healthy. I know they're really pushing to make a strong Cup drive to garner support but that still seems like a lot.

I thought Philly was the team that was supposed to excessively overpay for rental players?