EHM 1 Database & Saved Game Editor v1: BUG REPORTS & FEATURE REQUESTS

[Walkinson70]

Hello!

I just finished editing/adding players to the most recent version the Blueline real world roster update.

I added Hyvinkää/Riihimäki region junior teams (A-Juniors, B-Juniors, B2-Juniors and C-juniors)

I also added a bunch of players to my local Finnish second division team Peltosaaren Nikkarit (created new players etc)

When i tried to load the database when starting a new game, i get "error: national team counts do not match up" and it is followed by: "fatal error: v1.4.1 select_leagues_screen.cpp 114" and the game crashes.

I used the editor which is downloaded from the link provided at the blue line boards. I have a feeling that this must have something to do with the fact that when i added these new teams, the editor kinda messed up with the alphabetical order of some teams (zambia, zaire etc.)

Can some help me with this, i have edited NHL:EHM2007 database with the old editor and it never has messed up this way so i am kind of clueless at the moment


EDIT: No need for help anymore, I managed to fix the problem myself

[archibalduk]

What was the solution?

I suspect it relates to a team's classification. If you could tell me how you resolved it then I can see if I can add some sort of validation to prevent the issue in the future.

[Named]

Walkinson70: Have You got Skype? How many players You created? Are You interested of share with our db Your changes?

[archibalduk]

Can you tell me exactly what steps you take please? This will allow me to recreate your issue/help you.

Sure, within the editor (v1.9):
1) Added a new player/staff by clicking 'Add item' under People -> Players & Staff.
2) Filled out the Basic Data page:
3) Filled out Non-Player page:
4) Saved the roster and attempted to load the game.
5) Received this error when trying to start a new game:

Thanks! That was exactly what I needed.

I have a feeling this may have related to a bug I recently found with the Editor and which I fixed today. I followed your steps using the version of the Editor I will be releasing shortly and it worked fine.

[archibalduk]

The new version of the Editor is now available: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 48&t=16014

Alessandro - I *hope* this is now suitable for use with the TBL Rosters project. However, I highly recommend taking a lot of regular backups and regularly check that your changes are appearing in the game as they ought to (and that there are no crashes). As our use of the Editor increases then we can feel a little more comfortable; but for now I think we need to be ultra cautious.

I am going to start putting together a reference guide for the various importer spreadsheets and some of the other functions (such as the career history mass editor). Hopefully this will help the researchers and perhaps show how easy it is for people to help with roster updates.

For the next release I'll look to add some basic filtering along with some additional importer spreadsheets and improved league rules/structure importing.

CHANGELIST: VERSION 0.2.0 (03-Jun-2017)

New Features:

• Added arena spreadsheet editing/importing;
• Added club competition spreadsheet editing/importing; and
• Added player career history mass editing: Club competition edits.

Fixes and Improvements:

• Added import template file format option to Importer screen;
• Added _retire option to the Staff importer spreadsheet;
• Adjusted runtime data calculation so that statistics from amateur and semi-professional clubs will never be taken into account for professional game statistics;
• Changed the Division Level setting on the Club Competitions editing screen from a drop-down menu to a text entry field;
• Fixed column alignment in the Players & Non-players Research Spreadsheet export;
• Fixed default club competition classification when creating a new club competition;
• Fixed issue with staff classification validation causing players to become player/non-players;
• Free agents and retired/invalid players/non-players now have their salaries reset; and
• Further fix to the Drafted Players table where setting name indexes resulted in a crash.

Known Limitations and Bugs:
If you encounter an issue which is not listed below then please do report it here: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 10&t=14290

• Certain screens are rather messy and need to be tidied up;
• Exporting large spreadsheets using XLSX spreadsheet format can result in a crash;
• There is no option to select non-CSV spreadsheet import templates at present;
• The Import Spreadsheet and Export Spreadsheet icons are very similar (I will change these);
• There is a slight pause halfway through the loading the database where no dialog window is displayed;
• Certain of the club records in the Editor do not match what is displayed in game and there is one unknown record type;
• Club Division Level flags should be displayed as a text input rather than a drop-down menu;
• EHM 2005 to 2007 conversion results in two error messages when importing in EHM 1 relating to the number of AHL and ECHL teams;
• EHM 2004 support not fully operational;
• EHM 2005-2007 support is experimental;
• Exporting Model Data as XLSX format sometimes results in an invalid spreadsheet file;
• Not all data can be deleted yet (an error message will be displayed where this is not possible);
• The mouse cursor does not change when hovering over certain editing fields which makes certain tasks, such as editing Club Contracted/Playing For, not immediately obvious (the field should be clicked on in order to display the selection dialog window);
• The improved table display has not yet been rolled out to all tables/screens;
• Table column widths have not yet been set (and will frequently appear too narrow/small);
• Certain icons could be improved/replaced;
• Drop-down menus are all sorted alphabetically which is not always appropriate;
• Set a non-player's Nation Contract is completely untested and may cause a crash;
• Altering club competition names do not carry across the various editing screens; and
• The editor text settings do not currently work.

[Bleedblue3027]

Hi!

Love the program! Spent more time on it the past few days than I'd like to admit. I have noticed one "bug", and I'm not sure what to do to fix it, since I think it may be with my machine. I have a laptop with a 1920x1080 screen resolution. When I try parts of the program (noticeably the "Clubs" screen), the text boxes to type in are squished and it's nearly impossible to type in them. However, when I hook it up to a separate monitor with HDMI and run the program on that screen, all is fine.

Is there an easy fix to this, that you can think of, or do I just need to run it on the separate monitor? An example of what I'm taking about can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/Ens76.

Thanks so much for providing this program, it's fantastic. And thanks for any help you may be able to provide!

[archibalduk]

Welcome to The Blue Line!

The issue is with screen scaling - the bigger the screen, the more zoomed in the Editor has to appear so that it appears generally the same size regardless of resolution. The Editor relies on the Windows scaling settings and so I suspect the reason for things looking particularly large in your screenshot is that you have a very high scaling setting set. I have a 4K screen with my scaling set at 250% (and the Editor looks fine on mine) - that's the equivalent of setting it to 125% on your screen because your resolution is half the size of mine. Anything larger than 125% at your resolution is likely to cause the Editor to appear squashed like in your screenshot. To check your scaling setting, right click on your desktop and click on Display Settings. You'll see on the Display Settings screen there is a section that says "Change the size of text, apps and other items". If it is set above 125% then that is likely to be the cause. You could try reducing the percentage but I'm guessing you do want to do that because it'll make everything in Windows appear smaller.

As an alternative, you could try overriding scaling for the Editor by doing the following:

1. Right-click on the EHM Editor.exe file -> click on Properties -> Compatibility.
2. On the Compatibility tab, tick the box entitled Override high DPI scaling behaviour. Scaling performed by: and then select Application from the corresponding drop-down menu.
3. Click on OK to close the Properties window and then try loading the Editor.

This will leave the Editor, rather than Windows, to set the scaling. I don't know if this will make any difference as the Editor is DPI-aware, but it is worth a try.

Let me know if the above still doesn't work. If it does not, I can see if I can add some sort of override setting to the next version of the Editor.

[Mgomrjsurf]

Like it.

[Alessandro]

For future updates keep Open Database,Saved Game on so don't have leave and then return to open a different one. Expansion/Wavier Draft if turn off checked box have then happen in Game so like in 98-99 League can have an Expansion Draft.

This doesn't concern the editor

[xECK29x]

Can you tell me exactly what steps you take please? This will allow me to recreate your issue/help you.

Sure, within the editor (v1.9):
1) Added a new player/staff by clicking 'Add item' under People -> Players & Staff.
2) Filled out the Basic Data page:
3) Filled out Non-Player page:
4) Saved the roster and attempted to load the game.
5) Received this error when trying to start a new game:

Thanks! That was exactly what I needed.

I have a feeling this may have related to a bug I recently found with the Editor and which I fixed today. I followed your steps using the version of the Editor I will be releasing shortly and it worked fine.

Unfortunately I am still having the same issue with the new roster.

Tried the following:
1) Un-retiring the original "Scott Gomez" I created and assigned him as a Coach of the Islanders.
2) Creating a new "Scott Gomez" with the same attributes and assigning him as a Coach of the Islanders.

Same error for both, I can share my DB. I am also not able to delete either of them, have to keep them in 'retired' status.

Thanks!

[Bleedblue3027]

Welcome to The Blue Line!

The issue is with screen scaling - the bigger the screen, the more zoomed in the Editor has to appear so that it appears generally the same size regardless of resolution. The Editor relies on the Windows scaling settings and so I suspect the reason for things looking particularly large in your screenshot is that you have a very high scaling setting set. I have a 4K screen with my scaling set at 250% (and the Editor looks fine on mine) - that's the equivalent of setting it to 125% on your screen because your resolution is half the size of mine. Anything larger than 125% at your resolution is likely to cause the Editor to appear squashed like in your screenshot. To check your scaling setting, right click on your desktop and click on Display Settings. You'll see on the Display Settings screen there is a section that says "Change the size of text, apps and other items". If it is set above 125% then that is likely to be the cause. You could try reducing the percentage but I'm guessing you do want to do that because it'll make everything in Windows appear smaller.

As an alternative, you could try overriding scaling for the Editor by doing the following:

1. Right-click on the EHM Editor.exe file -> click on Properties -> Compatibility.
2. On the Compatibility tab, tick the box entitled Override high DPI scaling behaviour. Scaling performed by: and then select Application from the corresponding drop-down menu.
3. Click on OK to close the Properties window and then try loading the Editor.

This will leave the Editor, rather than Windows, to set the scaling. I don't know if this will make any difference as the Editor is DPI-aware, but it is worth a try.

Let me know if the above still doesn't work. If it does not, I can see if I can add some sort of override setting to the next version of the Editor.

Thanks for the response! I acutally forgot about the size of the text and everything. I had it set at 150%. I bumped it down to 125% and everything looks fine! I'll probably leave it like that, but I tried leaving it 150% and overrode high DPI scaling, and unfortunately that did not fix it. No worries, I should be fine (for now) with 125%. Thank you for the help!

[Walkinson70]

I have a question:

How do i add coaching staff with the editor? I did add staff but when I started a new game, everyone except General Manager had his job as "Unemployed" but he was listed as staff.

What was the solution?

I suspect it relates to a team's classification. If you could tell me how you resolved it then I can see if I can add some sort of validation to prevent the issue in the future.

I loaded the database on the editor and i noticed that for some reasons national teams of Zambia, Zimbabwe and Zaire (if i remember correctly) status went from "National" to "junior". I just changed them back to "national" and now there is no problem at all. I think i just misclicked or something and the database got mixed up. So it was about the team classifications so no big deal here then

Walkinson70: Have You got Skype? How many players You created? Are You interested of share with our db Your changes?

Yeah i can help you, send me a message here. I have Skype

[Buho]

to archibalduk

i don't know whether it is a bug or not but in TDL9.5 db Pro Experience calculations looks a bit weird.

for example Nicklas Jensen (Hartford): statistics screen says he has 3 NHL seasons and 5 Professional seasons. History screen says he only has two seasons with 50+ games in AHL and never reached even 20 games in a season in NHL.

so it looked like ProEXp in 9.5 sums NHL and AHL seasons but only if player had at least couple of NHL games.

is it how it's supposed to be?

PS sorry if I picked wrong topic. I'm not really sure whether it's 9.5DB or Editor 0.2.0 issue.

[archibalduk]

Named mentioned a few weeks ago about being able to insert new stages in between existing stages on the Stages sub-screen. Rather than an insert button, I have added Up/Down buttons so that you can move a stage up or down the list. I think this adds a bit more flexibility because you can move existing stages as well as essentially insert a new stage.

Unfortunately I am still having the same issue with the new roster.

Tried the following:
1) Un-retiring the original "Scott Gomez" I created and assigned him as a Coach of the Islanders.
2) Creating a new "Scott Gomez" with the same attributes and assigning him as a Coach of the Islanders.

Same error for both, I can share my DB. I am also not able to delete either of them, have to keep them in 'retired' status.

Thanks!

Could you upload both your "before" and your "after" DB? So the copy of the DB before you added Scott Gomez and after you made your changes.

I have a question:

How do i add coaching staff with the editor? I did add staff but when I started a new game, everyone except General Manager had his job as "Unemployed" but he was listed as staff.

Can you upload your DB and tell me which staff member you tried to create?

to archibalduk

i don't know whether it is a bug or not but in TDL9.5 db Pro Experience calculations looks a bit weird.

for example Nicklas Jensen (Hartford): statistics screen says he has 3 NHL seasons and 5 Professional seasons. History screen says he only has two seasons with 50+ games in AHL and never reached even 20 games in a season in NHL.

so it looked like ProEXp in 9.5 sums NHL and AHL seasons but only if player had at least couple of NHL games.

is it how it's supposed to be?

PS sorry if I picked wrong topic. I'm not really sure whether it's 9.5DB or Editor 0.2.0 issue.

It's not a bug as such because it is calculating them as I intended. However, I need to check with Riz as to whether there is a minimum number of games before a professional season or an NHL season is considered to be a season.

The number of professional seasons is the number of professional seasons he has played (i.e. anywhere in the world). Jensen has played 5 professional seasons (i.e. 2011/12, 2012/13, 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16).

[Alessandro]

I think this can make the trick:
"The player has completed 3 or more professional seasons - qualified by 11 or more professional games (for an 18/19 year old player), or 1 or more professional games (for a player aged 20 or older). This can include NHL, minor league, and European professional league seasons played while under an SPC."

[xECK29x]

Unfortunately I am still having the same issue with the new roster.

Tried the following:
1) Un-retiring the original "Scott Gomez" I created and assigned him as a Coach of the Islanders.
2) Creating a new "Scott Gomez" with the same attributes and assigning him as a Coach of the Islanders.

Same error for both, I can share my DB. I am also not able to delete either of them, have to keep them in 'retired' status.

Thanks!

Could you upload both your "before" and your "after" DB? So the copy of the DB before you added Scott Gomez and after you made your changes.

Uploaded here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

The 'before' roster is a back up from a few days before, the after will have substantial changes, FYI.

[Mgomrjsurf]

What other changes will it have in it?
Maybe should go in League Structure Topic also an Error I get is about Detailed Divisions North and South NHL Custom League but I have all Teams in right Detailed Division even with 3O teams and if want can post Database.DB.

[Buho]

It's not a bug as such because it is calculating them as I intended.

that is what my question was about. thanks for answer.

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The number of professional seasons is the number of professional seasons he has played (i.e. anywhere in the world). Jensen has played 5 professional seasons (i.e. 2011/12, 2012/13, 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16).

I think this can make the trick:
"The player has completed 3 or more professional seasons - qualified by 11 or more professional games (for an 18/19 year old player), or 1 or more professional games (for a player aged 20 or older). This can include NHL, minor league, and European professional league seasons played while under an SPC."

I have no issues with how the number of pro seasons calculated, you can see those only in the editor

number of NHL seasons is what you see in the game and I just got a bit confused with new calculations (guys like Gudlevskis who got 2 seasons on his resume playing just 2 games for Tampa).

all that math used to be a bit different, so I'm just wondering if it's a temporary thing or a new system.

anyway thank both of you for response.

[Named]

archi: I can't find moving stage buttons I'm curious can we edit/add round names which are in Schedule Dates? I see now only we can edit Stage Names.

[archibalduk]

I think this can make the trick:
"The player has completed 3 or more professional seasons - qualified by 11 or more professional games (for an 18/19 year old player), or 1 or more professional games (for a player aged 20 or older). This can include NHL, minor league, and European professional league seasons played while under an SPC."

Yes that sounds sensible. I'm going to be emailing Riz about this so that I can ensure the Editor mirrors the game when it comes to calculating Runtime Data.

What other changes will it have in it?
Maybe should go in League Structure Topic also an Error I get is about Detailed Divisions North and South NHL Custom League but I have all Teams in right Detailed Division even with 3O teams and if want can post Database.DB.

Off the top of my head: Club competition history importing, improved league structure/etc importing, some simple filtering and various minor fixes.

Uploaded here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

The 'before' roster is a back up from a few days before, the after will have substantial changes, FYI.

Thank you. I have downloaded and will take a look this week.

archi: I can't find moving stage buttons I'm curious can we edit/add round names which are in Schedule Dates? I see now only we can edit Stage Names.

It's not in the version released previously. It is in the one I'm working on at the moment.

[Walkinson70]

I have a question:

How do i add coaching staff with the editor? I did add staff but when I started a new game, everyone except General Manager had his job as "Unemployed" but he was listed as staff.

Can you upload your DB and tell me which staff member you tried to create?

darn i had a typo, i was trying to say that i tried to add coaching staff to the national teams and i was wondering that is it even possible to add staff to national teams at the moment

[Buho]

I think this can make the trick:
"The player has completed 3 or more professional seasons - qualified by 11 or more professional games (for an 18/19 year old player), or 1 or more professional games (for a player aged 20 or older). This can include NHL, minor league, and European professional league seasons played while under an SPC."

Yes that sounds sensible. I'm going to be emailing Riz about this so that I can ensure the Editor mirrors the game when it comes to calculating Runtime Data.

the thing is that with this kind of math you'll just take away rookie status from a huge amount of players who are rookie according to NHL.com.
guys like Fredrik Claesson, Shea Theodore, Scott Wilson (who all had around 20 games in 15/16 season yet still rookies this year) and basically every "late bloomer" will get a couple "NHL seasons acquired" so the "no rookies" db will be pretty much as messy as old "all rookies" db was, just in a bit different way. that's not to mention that now AHL will look like a mess loaded with "NHL veterans".

EHM already has a fair amount of imperfections. getting rid of NHL 40 games mark will make it a little bit less realistic.

[nino33]

I think this can make the trick:
"The player has completed 3 or more professional seasons - qualified by 11 or more professional games (for an 18/19 year old player), or 1 or more professional games (for a player aged 20 or older). This can include NHL, minor league, and European professional league seasons played while under an SPC."

Yes that sounds sensible. I'm going to be emailing Riz about this so that I can ensure the Editor mirrors the game when it comes to calculating Runtime Data.

the thing is that with this kind of math you'll just take away rookie status from a huge amount of players who are rookie according to NHL.com.
guys like Fredrik Claesson, Shea Theodore, Scott Wilson (who all had around 20 games in 15/16 season yet still rookies this year) and basically every "late bloomer" will get a couple "NHL seasons acquired" so the "no rookies" db will be pretty much as messy as old "all rookies" db was, just in a bit different way. that's not to mention that now AHL will look like a mess loaded with "NHL veterans".

EHM already has a fair amount of imperfections. getting rid of NHL 40 games mark will make it a little bit less realistic.

I got curious about what exactly is the NHL standard for being a rookie, and so looked online..


I found an explanation of what a rookie is on a hockey wikia site that says a rookie is a player who "has played less than 25 games in any single preceding season nor in six or more games in each of any two preceding seasons in any major professional league. The player must not be older than 26 years before September 15 of the season in which he is eligible" http://icehockey.wikia.com/wiki/Rookie While the site seems to be quoting from the NHL site, their link to where they got it doesn't work


On the actual NHL site is the same explanation, with one signbifixcant difference: "To be considered a rookie, a player must not have played in more than 25 NHL games in any preceding seasons, nor in six or more NHL games in each of any two preceding seasons. Any player at least 26 years of age (by September 15th of that season) is not considered a rookie" http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26377




It seems to me there's a difference between an NHL rookie (standards noted above from the NHL site; only NHL games and age are relevant) & AHL non-veteran/veteran status (determined by playing in a major professional league, so not just the NHL)

As is visible with an Editor, players in the database have both NHL games and professional games kept track of (separately).....seems to me things should work fine as the game has a separation between NHL GP and professional GP

[Alessandro]

Of course the second definition is the correct one otherwise Panarin wouldn't have eligible for the Calder

[Buho]

to nino33
that's really interesting. I tried to find "rookie rules" yesterday but just went to NHL.com stat center to flip through this year rookies and compare their stats.

as far as I remember "40 games" not just a random number, it is the necessary amount of regular season games played for a player to get his name engraved on the cup if his team won(either this or one game final series).

anyway i do know that number of games acquired during the game it's not a number of games played, but number of games played by a team with player in question on main roster.
I didn't know that rookie status in EHM defined by the rule nino33 found and has nothing to do with "Pro Experience" in the "Information" tab of player's profile (that actually explains certain players' absence from rookies charts)
and the questions left are:
what actual purpose of "Pro Experience" line (apart from being quite useful piece of information)?
what kind of impact amount of pro seasons and NHL seasons has on players? is there any difference between a guy with 2seasons in 9.2DB and same guy with 6seasons in 9.5?