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Absence of non-playing profile?
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:51 am
by Francois Tremblay
I am thinking about getting Wade Flaherty for my UHL team. When I go to make an offer, it says I can also hire him as a coach, but he does not have a non-playing profile. So how can I figure out if he would make a good coach too?
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:43 pm
by V4ND3RP00L
You should be able to view his profile as a non-player if they are offering that kind of contract in front of you to choose.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:19 pm
by Francois Tremblay
And yet that's not on the menu on the left side of his profile. So how can I see it?
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:05 pm
by batdad
Not necessarily going to be there. With guys of certain vintage, they can have the player coach tag as well, and you can hire as "player-coach". Some who want to be coaches will have the info for non-playing profile. Others will not, as they are not yet interested in ending their career as a player. This happens when guys are getting close to retirement age in many cases.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:11 pm
by Francois Tremblay
So what you are saying is that I cannot know his stats unless I hire him as player-coach?
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:14 pm
by batdad
And even then when you do (tried this once) his stats for non-player may or may not show up. Since I only did it once, and they did show, I cannot say 100% if they will show up for all guys. Sorry.
Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:33 pm
by Francois Tremblay
Fair enough.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:47 am
by laskey 16
I may be wrong but I believe that this only occurs with players who are about to do their 1st non-playing job. I think the point of it is so that you can't tell how good of a coach an ex-player will be, like in real life, until you sign them. Once he's signed his stats should appear.
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:44 am
by Shadd666
Although it was a good theory, i think you're wrong on this one, laskey16
Often, you'll see retired players available to become coach (or whatever other staff position) and you can clearly see their staff attributes right away, even if it would be their first staff job.
I tend to think batdad get it here. The guy don't want to end his playing career, but might be interested in a player/coach role. Not a full staff duty yet.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:21 am
by Francois Tremblay
So what does a player/coach do other than being a player? I see him on the personnel list, but not on the practice list.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:59 am
by B. Stinson
Francois Tremblay wrote:So what does a player/coach do other than being a player? I see him on the personnel list, but not on the practice list.
I always viewed a player/coach as a glorified team captain.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:05 am
by holydogg
Francois Tremblay wrote:So what does a player/coach do other than being a player? I see him on the personnel list, but not on the practice list.
I've seen bugs concerning this.
If you offer player/coach contract to player without non-players stats. When the players leave the teams, he stays on the personnel list. I've seen this in my games like 2-3 times... So I won't offer that kind of contracts anymore
Even having a goon as a "coach" is funny IMO.
Also, I've hired a un-retired player with staff skills as assistant GM and he counted on my players maximum contracts limits... I was forced to sack him later in the season after a trade altered my players count and offered the job to good ole Andy Moog instead
Some obscure glitches heh?:p
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:13 am
by batdad
Yeah I had that happen to me. And I tried to fire the guy, but could not. IT was really annoying and left me a coach short.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:35 pm
by Francois Tremblay
Maybe they just hang around and become PR representatives and such, like Guy Lafleur.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:59 am
by holydogg
Francois Tremblay wrote:Maybe they just hang around and become PR representatives and such, like Guy Lafleur.
whilst playing with the competition!
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:05 am
by Francois Tremblay
holydogg wrote:Francois Tremblay wrote:Maybe they just hang around and become PR representatives and such, like Guy Lafleur.
whilst playing with the competition!
Well, maybe they love Frequent Flier Air Miles?
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:46 pm
by Andrew R
holydogg wrote:Francois Tremblay wrote:So what does a player/coach do other than being a player? I see him on the personnel list, but not on the practice list.
I've seen bugs concerning this.
If you offer player/coach contract to player without non-players stats. When the players leave the teams, he stays on the personnel list.
I had that recently with a Spanish player I signed for my "gooning-it-up" save with Romford in the EPL. I signed him in April as a player-coach, he retired as a player in July. He never had any coaching stats and is now on my personnel list as a Retired player.