Player & Staff likes/dislikes/favourites/family

[dave1927p]

It would be great if every player had favourite teams, players, and staff like in EHM and dislikes.

Hated players on the team would screw with team chemistry and ruin cup contenders. A hated coach and one that isn't respected by the team would be a massacre in most cases...

I've also always wished that in EHM they would say "Brother of teammate Player " or "Son of Hall of Famer PlayersY" or "Son of current Maple Leaf Coach Ron Wilson" etc etc. This is where you might get a brother wanting to play with the other brother (scott and rob niedermayerer for example)

[dabo]

It would be great if every player had favourite teams, players, and staff like in EHM and dislikes.

Hated players on the team would screw with team chemistry and ruin cup contenders. A hated coach and one that isn't respected by the team would be a massacre in most cases...

This is already planned.

I've also always wished that in EHM they would say "Brother of teammate Player " or "Son of Hall of Famer PlayersY" or "Son of current Maple Leaf Coach Ron Wilson" etc etc. This is where you might get a brother wanting to play with the other brother (scott and rob niedermayerer for example)

This is not planned but could eventually be added.

[laskey 16]

Would be cool if there could be some way that the Sedins would always always play together, if possible!

[archibalduk]

Would be cool if there could be some way that the Sedins would always always play together, if possible!

I agree with the idea of the fact that a favourite player/staff may encourage somebody to join a team, but I'm not sure I'd like t see the Sedin twins always on the same roster. They're different players and I don't think they should necessarily play on the same team. If one twin playes for one team and that team makes an offer for the other then of course that fact my sway that twin but it shouldn't guarantee the transaction.

[laskey 16]

I'm just a stickler for realism and the Sedins will probably (well they've said they want to) stay together. But yeah I see your point. Maybe some kind of mental attribute (loyalty?) could influence how strongly a player desires to remain with his current team/play with friends and family.

[Ogilthorpe]

It would be great if every player had favourite teams, players, and staff like in EHM and dislikes.

Hated players on the team would screw with team chemistry and ruin cup contenders. A hated coach and one that isn't respected by the team would be a massacre in most cases...

I've also always wished that in EHM they would say "Brother of teammate Player " or "Son of Hall of Famer PlayersY" or "Son of current Maple Leaf Coach Ron Wilson" etc etc. This is where you might get a brother wanting to play with the other brother (scott and rob niedermayerer for example)

That would be good.



How about if the game could generate brothers, occasional twins/ triplets. Hockey history is full of these and why not have it happen in the game at some point.

[laskey 16]

How about if the game could generate brothers, occasional twins/ triplets. Hockey history is full of these and why not have it happen in the game at some point.

Agreed... but only for generated players/regens and only amongst each other. Don't want to see regens develop with "brother: Patrick Kane" or "father: Roberto Luongo" to be honest, wouldn't be too realistic.

[empach]

How about if the game could generate brothers, occasional twins/ triplets. Hockey history is full of these and why not have it happen in the game at some point.

Oh yeah I've always wanted that.

[dabo]

Since I have never been lucky enough to get my own son in FM I will be looking to add that in this game too. Generating brothers, cousins etc. shouldn't be too hard.

[Ogilthorpe]

How about if the game could generate brothers, occasional twins/ triplets. Hockey history is full of these and why not have it happen in the game at some point.

Agreed... but only for generated players/regens and only amongst each other. Don't want to see regens develop with "brother: Patrick Kane" or "father: Roberto Luongo" to be honest, wouldn't be too realistic.

Yeah, I should have said it that way, thanks for saying what I should have.

[Ogilthorpe]

Since I have never been lucky enough to get my own son in FM I will be looking to add that in this game too. Generating brothers, cousins etc. shouldn't be too hard.

It's good to read that Dabo....I mentioned this idea years ago in the SI EHM forum and it wasn't well-received at all.

[laskey 16]

No problem, I thought it might be what you meant but clarification is always good. This should be a good and popular feature, don't know why it wasn't well received when you suggested it for EHM!

[dave1927p]

No problem, I thought it might be what you meant but clarification is always good. This should be a good and popular feature, don't know why it wasn't well received when you suggested it for EHM!

lol in the older versions of ootp the user (GM) could have kids and a wife and you could watch your son go through college and get drafted etc etc. I thought that sound kinda cool but that was taken out of ootp...i can see why.


It might add something to the draft as well in the game, say you have the one brother and he turned out to be a good player and great leader, chances are his brother is a good kid as well so you take the chance on him and draft him higher then say someone else.

[Ogilthorpe]

It might add something to the draft as well in the game, say you have the one brother and he turned out to be a good player and great leader, chances are his brother is a good kid as well so you take the chance on him and draft him higher then say someone else.

Maybe DHM will be the first game to have a player's Genetics/DNA attribute.
With all of these great ideas pouring in maybe Dabo should consider having himself cloned so he can speed up the game development.

[bruins72]

It might add something to the draft as well in the game, say you have the one brother and he turned out to be a good player and great leader, chances are his brother is a good kid as well so you take the chance on him and draft him higher then say someone else.

Maybe DHM will be the first game to have a player's Genetics/DNA attribute.
With all of these great ideas pouring in maybe Dabo should consider having himself cloned so he can speed up the game development.

I really like the whole idea of having family separate than liked and disliked players. I'm also a big fan of the "bloodlines" idea. I'd like to see a son of a hall of famer get drafted. Sometimes they're good and sometimes they're not. You genetic/DNA idea is interesting but I wouldn't take it too far. Maybe have 1 or 2 attributes from their family carry over? Or maybe when they generate they could have a higher likelihood of becoming the same type of player (player template) as their father.

[Lazion]

Nice idea and I like it.
It would be fun if well known player brother or son is getting drafted in NHL at high number and the player is total fail.
So maybe if also well known player family members have higher reputation than other players with same potential level.

[dave1927p]

I'm actually shocked it hasn't been done yet.

If the one brother was a star (Jonathan Toews) then it may add alot of pressure to the other brother too (david toews who dropped to the third round.)

I think it would be awesome to draft see a brother of a first rounder go in the top five within the next two years and be a bust because of all the pressure on him

Brian Burke tried so hard to get Brayden Schenn, he probably wouldn't of if Luke wasn't on the team.

...there are alot of great scenerios that could come out of this feature

[bruins72]

Maybe players with family ties to well known players should get a boost to reputation? For example, David Toews might have gotten a "Good" reputation in his draft year because of his brother? Or maybe Jared Tinordi would have gotten a better reputation because his father was a good NHL player in his day?

[batdad]

What I actually find is many younger siblings of star brothers are not as good. Often, they do not work as hard, and are handed so many gifts on the way up...they do not feel they have to work as hard as the older sibling. They just coast on reputation. David Toews is good proof of this. So are many many others. It is actually more common place that the younger brother of a guy who has to work hard to get even on a 4th line is the one who becomes the player. It is rare that a star player's sibling becomes anywhere near the older sibling.

Similar to this is the parent thing. Guys who succeed are often kids of non-star players. Mark Tinordi was good, but not that good. Jared is okay. But how many star players kids actually make it? Few.

[bruins72]

The Staal's are the exception to the rule, eh? I do see your point though. And I've seen plenty of examples of this. Look at Ray Bourque's kids. One was barely cracking the NHL lineup (and I believe is now signed with a Russian team) and the other one while still a prospect, isn't expected to be a star. Still, like I said in an earlier post, I'd like to see them have the chance at having something similar to a family member in the game.

I do feel that a reputation boost for players with pro hockey family is in order though. People are more aware of them solely because of their name. If someone drafts them based on their reputation rather than their abilities/potential then that's their problem.

[batdad]

mark is not as good as Jared, Jared is not as good as Eric. And the youngest one is not as good as any of them. Kind of proves my point in a way.

And to be honest...the names make no difference, the scouts just look to see who can play. From what I have heard scouts often do not even look at rosters until after a game to see who is who. They track based on the # only.

[dave1927p]

What I actually find is many younger siblings of star brothers are not as good.

hmm, i don't know about that...According to Brian Burke the younger brothers are normally better (he said this after drafting Bobby Ryans brother ) I guess there are stats to prove both points. Just ask Alain Lemieux. lol

Only one way to find out....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fa ... in_the_NHL get out a notepad

[empach]

And to be honest...the names make no difference, the scouts just look to see who can play. From what I have heard scouts often do not even look at rosters until after a game to see who is who. They track based on the # only.

Scouting wise, maybe not. But media and in general it does. And we're talking about raising their reputation which is essentially how well known they are, not raising their attributes or potential.

Think about this: there's two prospects slated to go in the late first round and one is the son of let's say Mario Lemieux. This son of Lemieux is more likely to be known by people in the hockey world because of his family connection.

[CeeBee]

mark is not as good as Jared, Jared is not as good as Eric. And the youngest one is not as good as any of them. Kind of proves my point in a way.

And to be honest...the names make no difference, the scouts just look to see who can play. From what I have heard scouts often do not even look at rosters until after a game to see who is who. They track based on the # only.

Sorta like the Sutters...... or maybe not

[wildiowafan]

mark is not as good as Jared, Jared is not as good as Eric. And the youngest one is not as good as any of them. Kind of proves my point in a way.

And to be honest...the names make no difference, the scouts just look to see who can play. From what I have heard scouts often do not even look at rosters until after a game to see who is who. They track based on the # only.

I think you meant Jordan instead of Jared. Jared is the youngest. While I agree in some cases younger brothers may coast you could also look at someone like Darcy Zajac. He knows he's not as talented as his brother so works twice as hard to get to where he's at.