[club_histories.dat] Club histories [EHM 2007]

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[club_histories.dat] Club histories [EHM 2007]

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I've been taking a look at updating the team histories for the Manimal Rosters but it's looking as though the data in the database doesn't have any effect in game. The club_histories.dat file stores the season histories for each team like so (click on the thumbnail):

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If you look at the Bruins in the screenshot above, there are stats going back to 1967 stored in the dat file. However none of this data appears in game. The screenshot below shows the relevant screen in EHM for the Bruins. As you will see, it just shows the stats for the season played in EHM (and not the preceding real life seasons):

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Looks like a bug... :dunno:
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I'm not sure it's a bug, I think it's just the way it's designed. When you start a fresh out of the box unedited game it does only show the league stats from 06-07 on for this screen. I must admit, it would have been nice to have this though.
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The data I referred to (i.e. NHL team stats from 1967 onwards) is in the unedited game as far as I know (because we haven't had the facilities to edit that file before) . That's why I think it's a bug - because all of the data is in the database but the game doesn't seem to load it (and also, what is the purpose of this part of the database if it's not showing in game?). I've tried with both the UUDB v5.5 and Manimal v3.2 - both without the CSD Patch (the screenshot in my previous post is what it looks like after simming one season with Manimal v3.2)
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archibalduk wrote: I've tried with both the UUDB v5.5 and Manimal v3.2 - both without the CSD Patch (the screenshot in my previous post is what it looks like after simming one season with Manimal v3.2)
Have you tried using the default database?.....I thought I'd seen pre 2006-07 team stats show in game with the 1974 db (can't recall where in-game I accessed it from)...IIRC it only went back a couple/few years, though maybe I'm remembering wrong
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I'd always thought it worked too. However, maybe what I've seen are the in-game seasons listed instead (i.e. the seasons played in-game and not any pre 2006/07 real life seasons).

I don't have a copy of the original v3.0.4 rosters but I do have a copy of the TBL:DB v1.1 Rosters (which are identical to the original rosters but are unfaked). I just started up a new game with these rosters (and obviously without the CSD Patch) and alas no seasons appear in the list.

I'd be really interested to hear if you can find them (maybe I'm looking in the wrong place). Here's where I've been looking Team Rosters Screen -> History -> Competitions -> Select 'NHL' from the top right 'View' drop down menu.
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archibalduk wrote:I'd be really interested to hear if you can find them
I just looked using the default database and alas did not find club history prior to 2006.

NHL Team Records include Most/Least Points, Wins, Losses, Goals For and Goals Against (showing the record/amount and the year it occured)...maybe this is where the team history you found is used in-game?
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nino33 wrote:
archibalduk wrote:I'd be really interested to hear if you can find them
I just looked using the default database and alas did not find club history prior to 2006.

NHL Team Records include Most/Least Points, Wins, Losses, Goals For and Goals Against (showing the record/amount and the year it occured)...maybe this is where the team history you found is used in-game?
Hmm now that's a good point. I'll try setting an entry really high to see if it appears as a record in game. :thup:

P.s. the team records tool is going well. I'm hoping to have it complete by the end of the week for you.
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It seems to be bug. Game doesn't load this file.
Game generates club_history.tmp file after first season (?) in C:/user/AppData/roaming/SportsInteractive/EHM 2007/temp (Vista) And there is no records for past 2006 seasons.
I took quick look for this file, but whatever changes I made to this it doesn't show up in the screen what Archi posted earlier. All changed values recorded in file correctly (unlike in ongoing season fixtures temp file where values changed to default after saving game)
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Lazion wrote:Game doesn't load this file.....I took quick look for this file, but whatever changes I made to this it doesn't show up in the screen what Archi posted earlier
Do your changes show up in Team Records? The game may load the file and use it for Team Records...
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archibalduk wrote:the team records tool is going well. I'm hoping to have it complete by the end of the week for you.
Awesome!
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archibalduk wrote:
nino33 wrote:
archibalduk wrote:I'd be really interested to hear if you can find them
I just looked using the default database and alas did not find club history prior to 2006.

NHL Team Records include Most/Least Points, Wins, Losses, Goals For and Goals Against (showing the record/amount and the year it occured)...maybe this is where the team history you found is used in-game?
Hmm now that's a good point. I'll try setting an entry really high to see if it appears as a record in game. :thup:.
Scratch that. Those records are stored in the club_records.dat file along with the other team records (most PIM, highest goal scorer, etc).
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archibalduk wrote:nino33 wrote:
maybe this is where the team history you found is used in-game?
archibalduk wrote:
I'll try setting an entry really high to see if it appears as a record in game. .
Scratch that. Those records are stored in the club_records.dat file along with the other team records (most PIM, highest goal scorer, etc).
Looks like Lazion's right, and the file is not used...
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