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finestuff wrote:But if i dare to ask, i wonder to know how more long u suggest it will take to finish research? I'm so eager to start playing once again.

P.S.If i have had little bit more of free time and skill set to help you guys, i'll certainly do so, but don't have neither of it. And ofc sorry for my poor language, i have never studied it, just learned it on my own and keep doing it.
Welcome to The Blue Line! :-) Thank you for your kind comments. I appreciate you taking the time to write that - particularly as it is not your first language (your English is perfect, by the way). It is always nice to see new faces on the site who share our passion for hockey and EHM.

I'm not really sure about how long it will take to finish the research. We've got a several users who are doing a fantastic job in researching the histories and we're certainly making very fast progress. You can see in this list which teams we have completed (they are highlighted in blue) and which teams remain (they are in black, red or green). I think we will get the teams completed soon (hopefully before March) but then it will depend on when Manimal has his part of the updating complete. We're all working as quickly as we can, and when we do have an estimated release date, we'll let everybody know.
Syvis wrote:I'll take Edmonton and Islanders.
Thanks Syvis. I'll update the list. :thup:
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Updated list:
Just to clarify: When researching player career histories for a team, you should go by the team's roster in Manimal v4.0 and not the current real life rosters. We are looking at all contracted players and not just those currently on the NHL 23 man active roster, etc.

To find all contracted players in the Editor, you will see them in the far right hand column in the Staff History Menu. If you're using the spreadsheet method, you will find the team's roster in the Player_list.xls file.

The reason for this is to avoid two users researching career history for the same player because this would result in duplicate entries in the game. :-)


In order to ensure that we get each league complete, I think we should concentrate on teams based in the following leagues to start with: NHL, AHL, ECHL, OHL, QMJHL, German DEL, Russian KHL, Slovak Extraliga and Finnish SM-Liiga. Once we have covered all of those teams, we can decide whether we want to end the project or perhaps research a couple more leagues.


RED = This team is available for research.
GREEN = Data researched and/or entered into the Editor.
BLUE = Archi has received the data and imported into the Manimal Rosters.


NHL
Anaheim - Archi
Boston - Archi
Buffalo - kabbott50 mike_B
Calgary - Archi
Carolina - AaronRStanley & Archibalduk
Chicago - bobmcgoo
Colorado - kabbott50 mike_B
Columbus - stone169
(Anton Blomqvist missing - Archi will complete)
Dallas - Syvis
Detroit - DoubleB mike_B
(Henrik Zetterberg missing - Archi will complete)
Edmonton - WallyWallcakes Syvis
Florida - Syvis
Los Angeles - MacPhal Archi
Minnesota Wild - Asbeen
Montreal - jobiol mike_B

Nashville - Myhthrell
NY Islanders - Isles22 Syvis
NY Rangers - bobmcgoo
New Jersey - stone169
(Kurtis Foster & Timo Pielmeier missing - Archibalduk will complete)
Ottawa - Asbeen
Philadelphia - kabbott50 Airiskohvi
Phoenix - Syvis
Pittsburgh - AaronRStanley Archi
San Jose - bobmcgoo
St. Louis - Duff88
Tampa Bay - Syvis
Toronto - AaronRStanley
Vancouver - stone169

Washington - AaronRStanley
Winnipeg - Archi (Archibalduk needs to complete a couple of missing stats for the goaltenders)

AHL
Abbotsford - Jh06
Binghamton - Asbeen
Charlotte - Jh06
Chicago - stone169
Connecticut - bobmcgoo
Grand Rapids - DoubleB mike_B
Hamilton - Jh06
Hershey - Jh06
Houston - Jh06
Lake Erie - kabbott50 mike_B
Manchester - Jh06

Milwaukee - Myhthrell
Norfolk - Syvis
Oklahoma City - WallyWallcakes mike_B
Peoria - Jh06
Portland - Syvis
Providence - Archi
Rochester - kabbott50 mike_B
Rockford - bobmcgoo
San Antonio - Syvis
Springfield - stone169
(Darcy Campbell is missing - Archi will add this player)
St. John's - kabbott50 mike_B
Syracuse - Jh06
Texas - Syvis
Toronto - AaronRStanley
Wilkes Barre/Scranton - AaronRStanley Syvis
Worcester - bobmcgoo


ECHL
Adirondack - Archibalduk
Alaska - Gige Archibalduk
Albany Devils - stone169
Bakersfield - Archibalduk
Bridgeport - Archibalduk
Chicago - Archibalduk
Cincinnati - Myhthrell Archibalduk
Colorado - Archibalduk

Elmira - Gige Archibalduk
Florida - Jh06
Greenville - Gige Archibalduk
Gwinnett - Gige Archibalduk
Idaho - Gige Archibalduk
Kalamazoo - Gige Archibalduk
Las Vegas - Jh06
Ontario - Gige Archibalduk
Orlando
Reading - Gige Archibalduk
San Francisco
South Carolina - Gige Archibalduk
Stockton - Gige Archibalduk
Toledo - Jh06
Trenton - Gige Archibalduk
Utah - Jh06
Wheeling - Jh06


Central Hockey League
Jh06 is researching the entire league (thank you Josh!!)

United Hockey League / Southern Professional Hockey League
Augusta - Loosie
Columbus - Loosie
Fayetteville - Loosie
Huntsville - Loosie
Knoxville - Loosie
Louisiana - Loosie
Mississippi RiverKings - Loosie
Mississippi Surge - Loosie
Pensacola - Loosie
Richmond - Loosie

QMJHL
Blainville-Boisbriand Armada - Duff88
Drummondville Voltigeurs - Duff88
Rouyn-Noranda Huskies - Duff88
Val-d'Or Foreurs - Duff88

Gatineau Olympiques - Asbeen duff88
Halifax - kabbott50 duff88
Baie-Comeau Drakkar - Duff88
Chicoutimi Saguenéens - Duff88
Quebec Remparts - Duff88
Rimouski Océanic - Duff88
Shawinigan Cataractes - Duff88
Victoriaville Tigres - Duff88
Acadie-Bathurst - Jh06
Cape Breton - Jh06
Moncton - Jh06
PEI - Jh06
Saint John - Jh06
Sherbrooke



OHL
Barrie Colts - Loosie
Bellevile Bulls - Loosie
Brampton Battalion - Loosie
Erie Otters - Loosie
Guelph Storm - Loosie
Kingston Frontenacs - Loosie
Kitchener Rangers - Loosie
London Knights - Loosie
Mississauga St. Michael's Majors - Loosie
Niagara Ice Dogs - Loosie
Oshawa Generals - Loosie
Ottawa 67s - Loosie
Owen Sound Attack - Loosie
Peterborough Petes - Loosie
Plymouth Whalers - Loosie
Saginaw Spirit - Loosie
Sarnia Sting - Loosie
Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds - Loosie
Sudbury Wolves - Loosie
Windsor Spitfires - Loosie


WHL
*** DO NOT RESEARCH THIS LEAGUE. WE WILL RESEARCH AT A LATER DATE ***

DEL
Augsburg - kabbott50 mike_B
Berlin -kabbott50 mike_B
DEG Metro Stars - kabbott50 mike_B
Krefeld Pinguine - BP20
Adler Mannheim - BP20
ERC Ingolstadt - BP20
Hamburg Freezers - BP20
Grizzly Adams Wolfsburg - BP20
Straubing Tigers - BP20
Kölner Haie - BP20
EHC München - BP20
Iserlohn Roosters - BP20
Hannover Scorpions - BP20
Thomas Sabo Ice Tigers - BP20



Russian KHL
Ak Bars Kazan - Stastny26
Atlant - Stastny26
Avangard Omsk - Stastny26

Dinamo Riga - ThunderWolf
Spartak Moscow - Stastny26
Automobilist Yekaterinburg - Stastny26
Barys Astana - Stastny26
Dinamo Minsk - Stastny26
CSKA Moscow - Stastny26
Metallurg Magnitogorsk - Stastny26
Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk - Stastny26
Salavat Yulaev Ufa - Stastny26
Sibir Novosibirsk - Stastny26
SKA Saint-Petersburg - Stastny26


Various other Russian minor league and VHL teams - Stastny26

Slovakian Extraliga - Matos87
HC Dukla Trenčín - Matos87
HK mesta Zvolen - Matos87
HK Nitra - Matos87
HK Orange 20 - Matos87
HK Poprad - Matos87
MHC Mountfield Martin - Matos87
MsHK DOXXbet Žilina - Matos87


Swedish Elitserien
Entire league - Reave (all real-life contracted players complete - fantastic work!)

Finnish SM-League
Espoo Blues - ArtZi mike_B
Lahden Pelicans - ArtZi mike_B
Porin Ässät - ArtZi mike_B
Tampereen Tappara - ArtZi Syvis
Rauman Lukko - ArtZi mike_B
Oulun Kärpät - ArtZi Syvis
Helsingin Jokerit - Syvis
HIFK Helsinki - Syvis
Hämeenlinnan Pallokerho (HPK) - ozky22
JYP Jyväskylä - ozky22
KalPa-Hockey - ozky22
Saimaan Pallo Lappeenranta (SaiPa) - ozky22
Tampereen Ilves - ozky22
Turun Palloseura (TPS) - ozky22


Czech Republic Extraliga
All teams - Lukas

British EIHL
All teams - Archibalduk

Free agents
A list of UFAs to research can be found here: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 85#p134085
Screenshot #1 - duff88
Screenshot #2 - duff88
Screenshot #3 - duff88
Screenshot #4 - duff88
Screenshot #5 - duff88

All league/competition histories
League Competitions - Archi (thanks to some help from Lazion)
International Competitions - Archi (thanks to some help from Lazion)


Miscellaneous
Winnipeg Jets Team Records - Archi

Pre 2006/07 Histories To Be Removed By Archi
Matt Auffrey
Alex Foster (ID 7685)
Miroslav Hanuljak (ID 23848)
Also - inform Manimal re Dan/Daniel Růžička
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Colorado Avalanche Done. I'll take the Montreal Canadiens too.
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Archi, I've e-mailed you the accde. file.

And completely off-topic but whether there's any plans on updating the Mestis up to date, just hit me with a PM and I'd be willing to offer a helping hand.
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Mike_B and ozky22 - thank you both for the eight SM-Liiga teams. I have imported these into the database. :thup:

Ozky22 - If you would like to update the Mestis then that would be great. I'll send you a PM like you ask. :thup:
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Unrestricted Free Agents are done and sent to Archibalduk. I'll get started with the two remaining QMJHL teams.
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Halifax and Gatineau are done. Archibalduk, I'm waiting on your confirmation that you got my two PMs. I'm about to send the second one, not sure if the first went through.
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Hi Duff. Yes I got your two PMs with the UFAs and two QM teams. I sent you a PM earlier today in reply - did you receive this?
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Avalanche, Red Wings and Canadiens finished, and file sent to Archibalduk. I'll take Augsburg from DEL next.
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Wow, nice job!

I have spoken with Manimal and we have agreed that the project will come to an end once all of the leagues we've listed are complete. So we're just looking to finish off those teams that users have already claimed and those that are listed in red.

I will then put all of our histories into the main database and this will allow Manimal to finish off his roster update. At this stage we don't yet have an estimated release date but we'll let you know when we do.
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Good to know. I have the UHL 'done' in a spreadsheet, just importing them into the Database when I get the chance to, maybe by the wned of the weekend, if not for sure by the end of next week.
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I'm having difficulties with finding the Germany junior leagues and teams from the database. Should we only add the history concerning clubs found in the database, or what?
Or maybe someone with more knowledge about German hockey scene should take over those DEL teams instead...?
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If the team doesn't exist in the game then set it to _BLANK.

If the league doesn't exist then set it to the British Sekonda Ice Hockey Superleague Yugoslav Cup. Then when you email your research to me, let me know and I will make them blank for you (I accidentally missed a _BLANK option for the leagues).
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There's no British Sekonda Ice Hockey Superleague in the list. If I select it on the main page, the club field is empty when entering the modify history page. There might be some cases where the team actually exists in the database, but the name is different than what is used on stats sites. Since I'm not that familiar with German leagues, there might (and will) be some mistakes. If that is not going to be the end of the world, and no one else is going to research those, I will take the rest of the DEL.
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Sorry, I think I filtered out some of the defunct leagues. You could set it to the Yugoslav Cup instead.

With regards there being the odd mistake, it's not the end of the world. If anybody knows better then they can highlight the mistakes following the release of the v4.1 rosters. I'll be starting a mistakes/omissions thread following the release of v4.1 because there will inevitably be the odd mistake here and there.
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Ok, I'll take Augsburg, Berlin and DEG Metro Stars. They seem to have mostly older journeymen in their rosters, so it's quite easy to fill their histories.
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I sent the file with rest of the del teams researched. There are a couple of players with some seasons marked to Yugoslavian cup competition, and also a few players that I couldn't find stats prior to 2008-2009 season.

So, we are now out of available teams, but if someone is having a hard time with the research, or feels like giving up a team, I'm willing to do some more... :-?
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Thanks Mike - much appreciated as always. :)

I've got quite a few teams that users have sent to me recently. I will try and get them imported today or tomorrow. I've been busy finishing off the ECHL and also the British EIHL but I'll find some time asap to get other users' teams imported and the list updated.
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I can't find the W-L-T stats for Anders Nilsson when he played in the J20 and J18 leagues in Sweden. I've found everything else for him but those. Maybe someone with better knowledge of Swedish leagues can help me out? If not, I'll just leave them as 0.
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I had to leave quite a lot of the stats of especially goalies to zero. Some of them has only games played listed, as I really couldn't find any more detailed stats. :dunno:
I hope that those will be fixed once these rosters get released, and people get to point out the missing and erroneus stats - and hopefully provide a link to stats, or fill those in themselves...
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Syvis wrote:I can't find the W-L-T stats for Anders Nilsson when he played in the J20 and J18 leagues in Sweden. I've found everything else for him but those. Maybe someone with better knowledge of Swedish leagues can help me out? If not, I'll just leave them as 0.
The WLT records from the past are very hard to come by in Swedish Leagues. It seems that stat hasn't really been kept.
Leave it for now.
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I've received a great deal of emails over the past couple of days with much of the outstanding research. Thanks to everybody for completing and emailing it to me.

I'll try and find some time this week to add it all to the database. There's a bit of a delay in me doing this because I'm trying to complete my ECHL and EIHL research.

We're very nearly there! :cool:
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I've been through much of the research and have added to the database. You'll see from the list higher up this thread that we now have the Finnish SM-Liiga complete and are very close with many other leagues too. :joy:

I still need to add some research for some teams from the Czech league, QMJHL and UFAs. This involves a bit more work to import them (because they were done via the spreadsheet method) and so I'll do these tomorrow.
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I've just been finishing off my ECHL and EIHL research ready for the final phase before I import it (I have to add team and competition IDs to each entry - a very time consuming job). I thought the Y/N listed under the Playoffs column in Gige's research indicated that those entries related to the playoffs. However I've figured out I've misunderstood this - it actually means that the player played in the playoffs but the stats actually refer to the regular season. I should have noticed this earlier. ](*,) This means I'll have to go back through each of the ECHL players' stats, find the playoff stats for each season and add them to my spreadsheet. This is easily going to set me back at least half a week (so I won't be finished until maybe next week or the following weekend). So frustrating - I effectively have to go back over my ECHL research for each of the ten teams again...

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I haven't heard back from Myhthrell and so I'm freeing up his two teams (Nashville and Milwaukee). Dinamo Riga is also now available for researching.

Please let me know if you would like to research any of these teams.
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