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squadz
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My unsigned prospects:

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Of the prospects I tried to sign (note: not all of them), only Donne Astrom is able to be sent to the AHL when I sign him. (I've tested signing the best prospects, then found out I could only send one to the AHL, so I reverted my save.)

Donne Astrom is not 20, and has CHL rights, why would he be allowed to play in the AHL?

Does anyone have any insight as to why?
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Most of those guys have not turned 20. They can only be sent back to juniors.
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squadz wrote:My unsigned prospects:

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Of the prospects I tried to sign (note: not all of them), only Donne Astrom is able to be sent to the AHL when I sign him. (I've tested signing the best prospects, then found out I could only send one to the AHL, so I reverted my save.)

Donne Astrom is not 20, and has CHL rights, why would he be allowed to play in the AHL?
Does anyone have any insight as to why?
Is he European? Im guessing that he is. Players drafted out of Europe, even if they have CHL rights, are allowed to play in the AHL before they turn 20
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Yeah. What he said... :**
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Tasku wrote:Yeah. What he said... :**
His nationality is European, but the team he's on is Moose Jaw, which I'm pretty sure isn't European.

Is it nationality that matters then?
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Firebird350 wrote:
squadz wrote:My unsigned prospects:

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Of the prospects I tried to sign (note: not all of them), only Donne Astrom is able to be sent to the AHL when I sign him. (I've tested signing the best prospects, then found out I could only send one to the AHL, so I reverted my save.)

Donne Astrom is not 20, and has CHL rights, why would he be allowed to play in the AHL?
Does anyone have any insight as to why?
Is he European? Im guessing that he is. Players drafted out of Europe, even if they have CHL rights, are allowed to play in the AHL before they turn 20
He wasn't in Europe when I drafted him. I have to double check, but he's eligible for AHL, ECHL and Juniors.
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What roster set are you using? Are you using the CSD Patch?
There are known issues with the most recent Manimal rosters/CSD Patch due to "Date Joined Club" and Player History not being updated that might affect eligibility (many in the community are working with Archi to fix these issues ASAP)
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nino33 wrote:What roster set are you using? Are you using the CSD Patch?
There are known issues with the most recent Manimal rosters/CSD Patch due to "Date Joined Club" and Player History not being updated that might affect eligibility (many in the community are working with Archi to fix these issues ASAP)
Maybe that's it. I'm using the Manimal rosters, and it's past Feb 1st of the first season, but I was using the CSD patch.

Is there another way to find out if it's a roster issue or another issue?
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Four prospects. They all seem to be the same, yet the first one is the only guy that's AHL eligible.
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squadz wrote:it's past Feb 1st of the first season
Hmmmm.....the screenshots (of the 4 players) all show the contract start date as 2014 - if you used the CSD Patch, wouldn't you start in 2011? So past Feb 1st of the first season would be 2012? But you're in 2014?
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nino33 wrote:
squadz wrote:it's past Feb 1st of the first season
Hmmmm.....the screenshots (of the 4 players) all show the contract start date as 2014 - if you used the CSD Patch, wouldn't you start in 2011? And therefore in the first season shouldn't the contract start date be 2011? Maybe you accidently selected 2014 as your starting year? If so, that would explain the junior eligibility issues...
Nono. I started with 2011, now I'm in 2014 (aka played the game for 3 years)
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squadz/nino33 wrote: squadz:
it's past Feb 1st of the first season
nino33:
Hmmmm.....the screenshots (of the 4 players) all show the contract start date as 2014 - if you used the CSD Patch, wouldn't you start in 2011? And therefore in the first season shouldn't the contract start date be 2011? Maybe you accidently selected 2014 as your starting year? If so, that would explain the junior eligibility issues...
squadz:
Nono. I started with 2011, now I'm in 2014 (aka played the game for 3 years)
Ah....I see; if you've been playing 3 years then I wouldn't think it's a roster issue......I'm afraid I have no idea
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squadz wrote:Donne Astrom is not 20, and has CHL rights, why would he be allowed to play in the AHL?
Does anyone have any insight as to why?
Firebird350 wrote:Is he European? Im guessing that he is. Players drafted out of Europe, even if they have CHL rights, are allowed to play in the AHL before they turn 20
Has Donne Astrom played in the CHL?
If he was playing in Europe, then I think Firebird's answered your question :-)
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IIRC, I've heard about this before. It seems lika a bug in the game that players sometimes become ahl-eligible. I have not looked into it very much so I can't say for certainty
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He played for a team called IK Pantern J20, which seems to be a Swedish league? So I'm assuming that's why he's AHL eligible?
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squadz wrote:He played for a team called IK Pantern J20, which seems to be a Swedish league? So I'm assuming that's why he's AHL eligible?
Yes, that is why
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Manimal wrote:
squadz wrote:He played for a team called IK Pantern J20, which seems to be a Swedish league? So I'm assuming that's why he's AHL eligible?
Yes, that is why
Geez, what a headache. Well, thanks everyone.
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hi guys, i'm using manimal 4.2 rosters , i was just wondering how come morgan rielly cant be sent to juniors , after i recall him from loan for my training camp, is this a roster issue... for date joined club
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goleafsgo wrote:hi guys, i'm using manimal 4.2 rosters , i was just wondering how come morgan rielly cant be sent to juniors , after i recall him from loan for my training camp, is this a roster issue... for date joined club
Date joined club would not matter for that if you are in the first season.
Does he still have rights with a WHL team?
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thanks i think that is the problem, i'll do a test sim
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