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Fantastic! :thup: You can buy me a pint of Canada's finest one day haha! :D

Yep any colour and affiliation changes will definitely have been lost. Any team/competition/arena changes will also be lost. When I was doing testing, I was comparing the club names in each DB - it looks like little had changed other than a couple of minor typing corrections and it looks like you added the real life AHL teams. I've got a list of the changes somewhere. I can post them for you if it is helpful.

I'm not sure if I moved across the transfer_rules.cfg file from June to the fixed DB - not sure if you've updated this but you can safely copy it from the June DB should you wish. I think I moved across the other cfg files, but cannot remember for sure.
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@ Nino, I tried to send you a PM but it doesn't seem to work ](*,) :rant:

I apologize for being non-kosher about this, but could you send me a link to the db. I'd be more than happy to give you feedback :-D
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capschmap wrote:I apologize for being non-kosher about this, but could you send me a link to the db
There is no link available, so all I can suggest is try PMing your email address again...



AND as noted on June 10th...
nino33 wrote:While the database has been saved/fixed! some of what I did in May was lost (like team colours it seems...and likely affiliations), and so I have a bit of editing to do before I'll have test version 0.2b available (and I think I'd like to do a bit more editing on player attributes before a wider release of test version 0.2b)
So currently there's nothing to send!

In the last few days team colours were again updated, plus I've done some significant attribute editing of all players contracted to an NHL team (including CA/PA. Reputation, Consistency, and Work Rate)...Archi the Updater is a big help!
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nino33 wrote:
capschmap wrote:In the last few days team colours were again updated, plus I've done some significant attribute editing of all players contracted to an NHL team (including CA/PA. Reputation, Consistency, and Work Rate)...Archi the Updater is a big help!
Glad to hear it! Player and non-player creation will be coming soon! :thup:
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Hey guys. Was just wondering if anyone had any plans for an online league using these historical rosters, once they are done, of course. I think that would be wicked. Discuss.....
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-BEHR- wrote:Hey guys. Was just wondering if anyone had any plans for an online league using these historical rosters, once they are done, of course. I think that would be wicked. Discuss.....
That's such a good idea! :thup: So long as we can overcome the difficulties/instabilities EHM 2007 has with regards to online play...
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FYI - I’ve sent out test version 0.2b of the 1974 database.

There should no longer be any crash when selecting Configure while doing a Player/Staff search! AND all NHL contracted players have had a bit of an Attribute review! In the last few days I reviewed/edited CA/PA, Reputation, Role (Offensive/Defensive), Consistency, Important Matches and Work Rate! I also looked briefly at Goalie Style….still lots to do, but for sure lots done!

Archi “fixed” the crash issue by combining the July 3rd crashing version with a May 1st functioning version, and in this way I lost very little of the work I did in May!… I think/it seems that the main things I did lose are Affiliations, a couple ECHL team changes and AHL/CHL/ECHL Division editing – I have NOT yet redone this editing

I work at a school and the rest of the month I’m extra busy with year-end activities, and I’m really looking forward to doing some editing in July when it’s easier to ”get on a roll” – so it seemed like now’s as good a time as any to send out version 2.0b!



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Hello!

I’m running a test myself, with all Leagues Enhanced and my GM unemployed and on vacation.
The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final; here’s some stats from season one…


Regular Season 2006-07

Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Don Marcotte[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Frank Hughes[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Marcel Dionne[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Danny Grant[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]121[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]116[/td][td]Frank Hughes[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Marcel Dionne[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Jacques Lemaire[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]113[/td][td]Don Marcotte[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]113[/td][td]Billy Harris[/td][td]NY Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]111[/td][td]Phil Esposito[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]106[/td][td]Ed Westfall[/td][td]NY Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]106[/td][td]Steve Shutt[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]106[/td][td]Ken Hodge[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr][/table]

Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]22[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]19[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]19[/td][td]Bob Dailey[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]J.C. Tremblay[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]69[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]65[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]J.C. Tremblay[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Ed Van Impe[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]51[/td][td]Bobby Orr[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr][/table]

Goaltenders
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1.99[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.05[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.08[/td][td]John Davidson[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.11[/td][td]Tony Esposito[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.23[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.28[/td][td]Glenn Resch[/td][td]NY Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.32[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Tony Esposito[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Frank Hughes[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Marcel Dionne[/td][td]Detroit Redwings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Jacques Lemaire[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]




Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]124[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]123[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]120[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]114[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]35[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]50[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]59[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]63[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]341[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]312[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]311[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]299[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]294[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]160[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]171[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]180[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]197[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]202[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]350[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]340[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]324[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]301[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]299[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]170[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]170[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]192[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]192[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]193[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]



October ISS Ranking
[table][tr][th]Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Dale McCourt[/td][td]Hamilton Fincups[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Barry Beck[/td][td]New Westminster Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Greg Millen[/td][td]Peterborough Petes[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Mike Bossy[/td][td]Laval National[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Kevin McCarthy[/td][td]Winnipeg Clubs[/td][/tr][/table]

2007 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]G[/td][td]Pete Peeters[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]G[/td][td]Glen Hanlon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Dale McCourt[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]LW[/td][td]John Tonelli[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]LW[/td][td]John Anderson[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Peter Stastny[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Doug Wilson[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]G[/td][td]Greg Millen[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Barry Beck[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Ron Duguay[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]11[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Robert Picard[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]12[/td][td]RW[/td][td]Mike Bossy[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]13[/td][td]RD[/td][td]Kevin McCarthy[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]14[/td][td]G[/td][td]Murray Bannerman[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]LW/LD[/td][td]Alain Cote[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr][/table]




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nino33 wrote:I’m running a test myself, with all Leagues Enhanced and my GM unemployed and on vacation.
The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final
Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)

Here’s some stats from season two…


Regular Season 2007-08


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Phil Esposito[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Ken Hodge[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Andre Boudrias[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Ron Schock[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]Larry Lund[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]Rick MacLeish[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Peter McNab[/td][td]Buffalo Sabres[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]124[/td][td]Phil Esposito[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]122[/td][td]Jacques Lemaire[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]117[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]112[/td][td]Don Marcotte[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]112[/td][td]Pete Stemkowski[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]111[/td][td]Ron Schock[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Larry Lund[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr][/table]

Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Stefan Persson[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Serge Savard[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Bob Dailey[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]14[/td][td]Lars-Erik Sjoberg[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]61[/td][td]Ed Van Impe[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]60[/td][td]Bobby Orr[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Sheldon Kannegiesser[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Serge Savard[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr][/table]

Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1.96[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.1[/td][td]John Davidson[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.22[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.3[/td][td]Tony Esposito[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.39[/td][td]Dan Bouchard[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]50[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]50[/td][td]John Davidson[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Ed Giacomin[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]43[/td][td]John Garrett[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Peter Stastny[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Phil Esposito[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Ed Van Impe[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Larry Lund[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr][/table]




Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]129[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]119[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]116[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]114[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]107[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]107[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]62[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]335[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]329[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]318[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]308[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]302[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]295[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]293[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]289[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]200[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]201[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]206[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]213[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]214[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]214[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]367[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]326[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]320[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]313[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]311[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]308[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]191[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]192[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]205[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]220[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]220[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Bobby Smith[/td][td]Ottawa 67s[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Mario Marios[/td][td]Quebec Remparts[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Stan Smyl[/td][td]New Westminster Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Gordie Roberts[/td][td]Victoria Cougars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Ken Linseman[/td][td]Kingston Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]

2008 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Bobby Smith[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Ken Linseman[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Stan Smyl[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Mario Marois[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]C[/td][td]Ryan Walter[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]LW[/td][td]Don Maloney[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Curt Fraser[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Dave Hunter[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]RW/C[/td][td]Tom Roulston[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Bob Sullivan[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]11[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Randy Pierce[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]12[/td][td]LW[/td][td]Al Secord[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr][/table]
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nino33 wrote: I’m running a test myself, with all Leagues Enhanced and my GM unemployed and on vacation.
The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final
nino wrote:
Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)
Season three is now done...Montreal defeated Vancouver 4-0 in the 2009 Stanley Cup Final

Here’s some stats from season three…


Regular Season 2008-09


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]60[/td][td]Mike Bossy[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Rod Gilbert[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Bobby Smith[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Ken Hodge[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Yvan Cournoyer[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Danny Grant[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Charlie Simmer[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]George Morrison[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]126[/td][td]Pete Stemkowski[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]123[/td][td]Juha Widing[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]122[/td][td]Jacques Lemaire[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]121[/td][td]Billy Harris[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]116[/td][td]Frank Hughes[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]116[/td][td]Darryl Sittler[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]Yvan Cournoyer[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Rod Gilbert[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Bob Bourne[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr][/table]

Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]21[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]21[/td][td]Bob Dailey[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]20[/td][td]Brad Park[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Doug Wilson[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Barry Long[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Bobby Orr[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]66[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]66[/td][td]Bob Dailey[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]62[/td][td]Brad Park[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr][/table]

Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2.01[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.23[/td][td]John Davidson[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.25[/td][td]Tony Esposito[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.48[/td][td]Dave Dryden[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.50[/td][td]Wayne Stephenson[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.55[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Tony Esposito[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]John Davidson[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Dave Dryden[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Ed Giacomin[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]43[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Bobby Smith[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Pete Stemkowski[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Jacques Lemaire[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]




Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]137[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]122[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]119[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]117[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]112[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]1111[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]59[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]62[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]66[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]372[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]326[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]325[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]323[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]321[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]198[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]207[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]218[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]222[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]222[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]377[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]352[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]331[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]322[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]313[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]183[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]194[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]212[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]213[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]215[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Rob Ramage[/td][td]Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Flin Flon Bombers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Merlin Malinowski[/td][td]Lethbridge Hurricanes[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Kevin Lowe[/td][td]Shawinigan Dynamos[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Mike Gillis[/td][td]Hamilton Fincups[/td][/tr][/table]

2009 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]C[/td][td]Merlin Melinowski[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Rob Ramage[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Mike Gillis[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Kevin Lowe[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Craig Hartsburg[/td][td]Buffalo Sabres[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Dirk Graham[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]G[/td][td]Pat Riggin[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Paul Mulvey[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]John Ogrodnick[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]11[/td][td]RW/C[/td][td]Mike Foligno[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]12[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Behn Wilson[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]13[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Risto Siltanen[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]14[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Charlie Huddy[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]G[/td][td]Pelle Lindbergh[/td][td]Detroit Red wings[/td][/tr][/table]
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Greetings!

FYI - The reasons I’m posting the “season reviews” include
- to give testers something to compare their results to
- to allow a comparison to the “next version” [after further (Attribute) edits]


I checked the Hockey Hall of Fame inductees so far…
- G Jacques Plante (451 wins) and F Gordie Howe (1873 points) after the first season
- F Henri Richard(1056) and F Norm Ullman (1221 points) after the second season
- F John Bucyk (1252 points) and D Doug Mohns (700 points) after the third season


I also checked in on the Russians…in November 2009, after three full seasons of play, all of the under 20 players whose age I left “unadjusted” this time are in the NHL (i.e. Fetisov is on the Senators at 19, Makarov is on LA at 19, etc) while the older Russian superstars are still in Russia (i.e. 29 year old Kharlamov, 30 year old Yakushev, etc).....I think the next test version will revert back to have the teenage Russians and some teenage Europeans “age 20 at start-up” with lowered CA/PA and Reputation (and those that want to can go in and edit the game at start-up)……I’m intending on adding 20-30 more historical Swedes, Finns, Czechs and Russians to the next version (prep work well underway!), but they will mostly be “veterans” who will be 20+ at start-up already



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So, I just started up a test game where I chose a random NHL team and got the Minnesota North Stars. I will be managing them and their AHL-affiliate, the New Haven Nighthawks.
I have all the NA-leagues as enhanced or standard and no Euro leagues.
A few small things was noticed by me as Iook around my teams.

My AGM Gump Worsley has 3 and 1 as Judging Attributes. He is set with 100/140 CA/PA in the editor but with random atts. He will never get good enough to be useful so I released him.
My G Cesare Maniago is set as player/coach but is not good at coaching goalies.
Perhaps you could sometime in the future go over the non-playing staff and set at least the important atts to suit there job.

The teams short name are set as the nick-name. I think it looks better to have the city as short name but that is up to you.
The Junior teams have their full name as the short name. I saw some screen where the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles was cut short because of that
Some junior teams also lack abbreviations

When playing in the AHL it helps to have an affiliation set up with the CHL or ECHL team that is also affiliated wth the same parent team. You might not have gotten around to setting this up as I read you had some difficulties with affiliations. Just mentioning.
The Nighthawks have a long way to travel to go to their home arena. All the way from Connecticut to Houston,Texas!
When you added the AHL players, you didn't list their reputation in the editor. This makes them listed as not needed by the team. Not a big problem but it would be nice to have it set

That is the small details I found early on. Now I'll try to play it and see if anything else turns up!

BTW, you still haven't changed Paul MacLean's nationality so that he'll be drafted into the Q-draft and not the Import draft
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Thanks for the feedback Manimal!
Manimal wrote:Perhaps you could sometime in the future go over the non-playing staff and set at least the important atts to suit there job.
It's absolutely in the plans (see the first post in this thread for the "list of things to do" that I try to keep relatively up-to-date).....it's good to know that the CA alone will not provide the type of Staff I'm wanting! Thank you for that...

Manimal wrote:The teams short name are set as the nick-name. I think it looks better to have the city as short name but that is up to you.
The Junior teams have their full name as the short name. I saw some screen where the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles was cut short because of that
Some junior teams also lack abbreviations
I agree the names need work! I think I'll go with the city as short name for all...

Manimal wrote:When playing in the AHL it helps to have an affiliation set up with the CHL or ECHL team that is also affiliated wth the same parent team. You might not have gotten around to setting this up as I read you had some difficulties with affiliations. Just mentioning.
Yep, affiliations need an overhaul (and will be getting one!)...when Archi combined the May 1st/June 3rd databases to overcome the crash issue I lost all the Division/Affiliation work I had done...

Manimal wrote:The Nighthawks have a long way to travel to go to their home arena. All the way from Connecticut to Houston,Texas!
This is the other thing (arena editing) I know I lost when the crash was fixed...it`s on the list of things to do!

Manimal wrote:When you added the AHL players, you didn't list their reputation in the editor. This makes them listed as not needed by the team. Not a big problem but it would be nice to have it set
Good to know! I`ll fix this (as right now I'm currently working on further editing AHL/CHL players)


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The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final

Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)

Season three is now done...Montreal defeated Vancouver 4-0 in the 2009 Stanley Cup Final
In 2009-10 Montral won their third Cup in four years, beating LA 4-0 (to get to the Final the Habs beat Buffalo 4-1, Boston 4-0 and Toronto 4-0)...

Here’s some stats from season four…


Regular Season 2009-10


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Lanny McDonald[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Charlie Simmer[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Bob "Battleship" Kelly[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Bob Berry[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Denis Maruk[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Mike Bossy[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]Mike Murphy[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]Bill Barber[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]127[/td][td]Lanny McDonald[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]122[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]119[/td][td]Darryl Sittler[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]113[/td][td]Denis Maruk[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]112[/td][td]Charlie Simmer[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Ken Hodge[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]104[/td][td]Phil Esposito[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr][/table]

Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]26[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Tracy Pratt[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]79[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]61[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Bob Dailey[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Borje Salming[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr][/table]

Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2.17[/td][td]Billy Smith[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.27[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.28[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.36[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.41[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]John Davidson[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Dave Dryden[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Phil Myre[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Dave Taylor[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Lanny McDonald[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Ted Irvine[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Bob Gainey[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]




Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]128[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]119[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]114[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]114[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]62[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]66[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]66[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]67[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]376[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]343[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]321[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]319[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]312[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]285[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]282[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]176[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]201[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]208[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]210[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]212[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]339[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]317[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]312[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]297[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]296[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]208[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]210[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]211[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]217[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]219[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Laurie Boschman[/td][td]Calgary Wranglers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Brent Ashton[/td][td]Portland Winter Hawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Keith Brown[/td][td]Montreal Red White and Blue[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Mike Gartner[/td][td]Niagra Falls Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Mike Krushelnyski[/td][td]Halifax Mooseheads[/td][/tr][/table]

2010 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]LW/C[/td][td]Laurie Boschman[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Keith Brown[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]LW/C/RW[/td][td]Brent Ashton[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]LW/C[/td][td]Mike Krushelnyski[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]LW/C/RW[/td][td]Duane Sutter[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]LW/C[/td][td]Jim Fox[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Guy Carbonneau[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Jody Gage[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Michel Goulet[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Paul Reinhart[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]11[/td][td]LW[/td][td]Tom McCarthy[/td][td]Ottawa Senators[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]12[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Jari Kurri[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]13[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Dale Hunter[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]14[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Dave Orleski[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Mike Gartner[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Alexei Kasatonov[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Tim Hunter[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]18[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Mats Naslund[/td][td]Buffalo Sabres[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]19[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Dino Ciccarelli[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]20[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Vladimir Krutov[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr][/table]
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The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final

Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)

Season three is now done...Montreal defeated Vancouver 4-0 in the 2009 Stanley Cup Final

In 2009-10 Montral won their third Cup in four years, beating LA 4-0 (to get to the Final the Habs beat Buffalo 4-1, Boston 4-0 and Toronto 4-0)...
In 2010-11 it's another Cup for Montral, as they defeated the California Seals in the Final 4-1...

Here’s some stats from season five…


Regular Season 2010-11


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Lanny McDonald[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]50[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Bob "Battleship" Kelly[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Darryl Sittler[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Ivan Boldirev[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]124[/td][td]Darryl Sittler[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Lanny McDonald[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]Bob Bourne[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]108[/td][td]Denis Maruk[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]107[/td][td]Ivan Boldirev[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr][/table]

Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]21[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]19[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]18[/td][td]Bobby Orr[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Ron Greschner[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Lars Lindgren[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]14[/td][td]Doug Wilson[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]67[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]67[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]66[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]59[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]

Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2.38[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.39[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.48[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.48[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.55[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]53[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Phil Myre[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Don McLeod[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Lars Lindgren[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Bob Bourne[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]




Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]128[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]113[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]108[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]108[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]60[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]61[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]64[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]65[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]355[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]334[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]315[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]302[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]300[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]215[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]216[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]222[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]224[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]338[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]314[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]300[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]299[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]218[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]219[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]224[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]226[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]226[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Wayne Gretzky[/td][td]Erie Otters[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]Laval National[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Mark Messier[/td][td]Brandon Wheat Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Denis Savard[/td][td]Victoriaville Tigers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Mike Bullard[/td][td]North Bay Centennials[/td][/tr][/table]

2011 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]C[/td][td]Wayne Gretzky[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Mark Messier[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Paul Coffey[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]C[/td][td]Mike Bullard[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]RD[/td][td]Larry Murphy[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]C[/td][td]Denis Savard[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]RD[/td][td]Marcel Gagne[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]G[/td][td]Clint Malarchuk[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Barry Pederson[/td][td]Buffalo Sabres[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]11[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Steve Kasper[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]12[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Bernie Nicholls[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]13[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Igor Larionov[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr][/table]
I think RD Marcel Gagne is the first regen from the drafted players I've posted...
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The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final

Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)

Season three is now done...Montreal defeated Vancouver 4-0 in the 2009 Stanley Cup Final

In 2009-10 Montral won their third Cup in four years, beating LA 4-0 (to get to the Final the Habs beat Buffalo 4-1, Boston 4-0 and Toronto 4-0)

In 2010-11 it's another Cup for Montral, as they defeated the California Seals in the Final 4-1
In 2011-12 the Ottawa Senators win the Cup! After beating Buffalo 4-3, Quebec 4-1 and Pittsburgh 4-0, the Senators beat the Winnipeg Jets 4-3 in the Final...

Here’s some stats from season six…


Regular Season 2011-12


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]50[/td][td]Anders Kallur[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Mike Rogers[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Jacques Lemaire[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Bernie Federko[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Rick Kehoe[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Lanny McDonald[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]John Ogrodnick[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]125[/td][td]Charlie Simmer[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]122[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Jacques Lemaire[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Darryl Sittler[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]111[/td][td]Bob Bourne[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Pierre Mondou[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]108[/td][td]Peter Stastny[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr][/table]

Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]19[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]18[/td][td]Brad Park[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Doug Wilson[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Mike O'Connell[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Risto Siltanen[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]53[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]52[/td][td]Borje Salming[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]50[/td][td]Gordie Roberts[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr][/table]

Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2.45[/td][td]Don Edwards[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.56[/td][td]Tony Esposito[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.57[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.65[/td][td]Gilles Gratton[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.69[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Don McLeod[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Joe Daley[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Tony Esposito[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]43[/td][td]Gilles Gratton[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]43[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]42[/td][td]Richard Brodeur[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]42[/td][td]Denis Herron[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Wayne Gretzky[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Anders Hedberg[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr][/table]
In his rookie year Gretzky played 81 games, scoring 36 goals and assisting on 60 others for 96 points



Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]108[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]106[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]106[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]103[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]100[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]100[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]65[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]73[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]73[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]74[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]75[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]343[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]333[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]329[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]322[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]314[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]307[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]305[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]206[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]231[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]234[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]238[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]243[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]244[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]330[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]329[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]309[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]303[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]302[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]219[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]230[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]239[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]242[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]246[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Brent Sutter[/td][td]Red Deer Rustlers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Troy Murray[/td][td]Lethbridge Hurricanes[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]John Chabot[/td][td]Montreal Red White and Blue[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Chris Chelios[/td][td]Springfield Junior Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Jacques Lachance[/td][td]Laval National[/td][/tr][/table]

2012 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Brent Sutter[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]G[/td][td]Ty Levelle[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Jacques Lachance[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Perry Anderson[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]C/RW[/td][td]Troy Murray[/td][td]Cleveland Crusaders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]C[/td][td]John Chabot[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]G[/td][td]Jean-Luc Brisebois[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Cobi Cooper[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]G[/td][td]Grant Fuhr[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]RD/LD[/td][td]Chris Chelios[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr][/table]
G Ty Levelle, LW/RW Jacques Lachance, G Jean-Luc Brisebois and C/LW Cobi Cooper are all regens
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Playing with the first DB version 2 and Tony Esposito had 21 shutouts....might want to tone some goalies down so that doesn't happen again
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Moses Doughty wrote:Tony Esposito had 21 shutouts....might want to tone some goalies down so that doesn't happen again
I'll certainly keep an eye on the potential issue...anyone else have such high shoutout numbers?



I took a look at my test with db version 0.2b and no one had a higher total than 14 (and Esposito had a maximum of 7)...

Shutout Leaders
[table][tr][th]Year[/th][th]Shutouts[/th][th]Goalie[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2006-07[/td][td]14[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2007-08[/td][td]10[/td][td]John Davidson[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2008-09[/td][td]10[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2009-10[/td][td]8[/td][td]Bernie Parent/Gilles Meloche[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2010-11[/td][td]10[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2011-12[/td][td]5[/td][td]Al Smith[/td][/tr][/table]

Tony Esposito
[table][tr][th]Year[/th][th]Shutouts[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2006-07[/td][td]6[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2007-08[/td][td]2[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2008-09[/td][td]6[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2009-10[/td][td]3[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2010-11[/td][td]7[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2011-12[/td][td]1[/td][/tr][/table]



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Thanks Nino. Looks more like an outlier than anything, I have seen 14 once in the DB and no more than 11 any other time. Very few for that too.
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nino33 wrote:
Manimal wrote:The teams short name are set as the nick-name. I think it looks better to have the city as short name but that is up to you.
The Junior teams have their full name as the short name. I saw some screen where the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles was cut short because of that
Some junior teams also lack abbreviations
I agree the names need work! I think I'll go with the city as short name for all...
Thing is, the club name most often *is* used as the short name in North America, regardless of sport. And then, if you go by the city - how do you differentiate between the Rangers and the Islanders? I'd suggest for short name use just the club name.

As for the nickname entry, I've /never/ seen it show up in-game, though have had some set (e.g. Habs for the Canadiens, Blueshirts for the Rangers, etc).
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XenHL wrote:the club name most often *is* used as the short name in North America
I agree...
XenHL wrote: I'd suggest for short name use just the club name.
At this point I'll put of deciding until I get to the actual editing (which'll be in July); I think there's good points for both ways...
XenHL wrote:As for the nickname entry, I've /never/ seen it show up in-game, though have had some set (e.g. Habs for the Canadiens, Blueshirts for the Rangers, etc).
Maybe it shows up in News Items?


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nino33 wrote:
XenHL wrote:As for the nickname entry, I've /never/ seen it show up in-game, though have had some set (e.g. Habs for the Canadiens, Blueshirts for the Rangers, etc).
Maybe it shows up in News Items?
That's what I thought too, based on my limited experience with CM03/04, but if it has shown up, I've completely missed it... I haven't played enough in non-NHL leagues (game-wise, my KHL mod may as well be considered NHL, as it was using the NHL code, just switched the teams and such...)
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The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final

Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)

Season three is now done...Montreal defeated Vancouver 4-0 in the 2009 Stanley Cup Final

In 2009-10 Montral won their third Cup in four years, beating LA 4-0 (to get to the Final the Habs beat Buffalo 4-1, Boston 4-0 and Toronto 4-0)

In 2010-11 it's another Cup for Montral, as they defeated the California Seals in the Final 4-1

In 2011-12 the Ottawa Senators win the Cup! After beating Buffalo 4-3, Quebec 4-1 and Pittsburgh 4-0, the Senators beat the Winnipeg Jets 4-3 in the Final...
In 2012-2013 Ottawa and Winnipeg met in the Final
Winnipeg defeated Cleveland 4-2, San Diego 4-3, and then Minnesota 4-0 to reach the Final
Ottawa defeated Atlanta 4-1, Philadelphia 4-3, and then the Islanders 4-3 to reach the Final
In the Stanley Cup Final the Senators defeated the Jets 4-1...

Here’s some stats from season seven…

Regular Season 2012-13


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]60[/td][td]Mike Bossy[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]59[/td][td]Denis Maruk[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Charlie Simmer[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Marcel Dionne[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]143[/td][td]Denis Maruk[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]122[/td][td]Charlie Simmer[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]121[/td][td]Mike Bossy[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]114[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]114[/td][td]Bob Bourne[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr][/table]In his second year, Gretzky scored 47 and assisted on 57 others for 104 points (16th overall in Points)…and his AvR was 9.29, the best in the NHL!


Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]19[/td][td]Doug Wilson[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]18[/td][td]Doug Crossman[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Mike O'Connell[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]15[/td][td]Bob Dailey[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]63[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Craig Hartsburg[/td][td]Buffalo Sabres[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Viacheslav Fetisov[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Keith Brown[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]


Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2.19[/td][td]Mike Liut[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.48[/td][td]Chris Worthy[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.52[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.54[/td][td]Richard Brodeur[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.60[/td][td]Dan Bouchard[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.74[/td][td]Pete Peeters[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.75[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]49[/td][td]Gary Edwards[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]47[/td][td]Billy Smith[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]46[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Joe Daley[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr][/table]


Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Dino Ciccarelli[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Wayne Gretzky[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr][/table]


Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]112[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]109[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]103[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]101[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]64[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]67[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]67[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]68[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]72[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]334[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]329[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]321[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]317[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]317[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]232[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]235[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]238[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]241[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]242[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]368[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]340[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]339[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]337[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]328[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]226[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]227[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]235[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]245[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]246[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr][/table]


[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Troy Loney[/td][td]Red Deer Rustlers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Al MacInnis[/td][td]Baie-Comeau Drakker[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Jim Benning[/td][td]Medicine Hat Tigers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Tom Fergus[/td][td]Sudbury Wolves[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Steve Smith[/td][td]Calgary Wranglers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]Mike Vernon[/td][td]Victoria Cougars[/td][/tr][/table]


2013 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]RD/LD[/td][td]Al MacInnis[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]LW[/td][td]Troy Loney[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]LW/C[/td][td]Gaetan Duchesne[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Jim Benning[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Travis Labrie[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]RD/LD[/td][td]Ron Meighan[/td][td]St. Louis Blues[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Steve Smith[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]LW[/td][td]Cory Davies[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Tom Fergus[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]G[/td][td]Mike Vernon[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr][/table]
RW/LW Travis Labrie and LW Cory Davies are both regens
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nino33 wrote:I’m running a test myself, with all Leagues Enhanced and my GM unemployed and on vacation.

The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final

Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)

Season three is now done...Montreal defeated Vancouver 4-0 in the 2009 Stanley Cup Final

In 2009-10 Montral won their third Cup in four years, beating LA 4-0 (to get to the Final the Habs beat Buffalo 4-1, Boston 4-0 and Toronto 4-0)

In 2010-11 it's another Cup for Montral, as they defeated the California Seals in the Final 4-1

In 2011-12 the Ottawa Senators win the Cup! After beating Buffalo 4-3, Quebec 4-1 and Pittsburgh 4-0, the Senators beat the Winnipeg Jets 4-3 in the Final...

In 2012-2013 Ottawa and Winnipeg met in the Final
Winnipeg defeated Cleveland 4-2, San Diego 4-3, and then Minnesota 4-0 to reach the Final
Ottawa defeated Atlanta 4-1, Philadelphia 4-3, and then the Islanders 4-3 to reach the Final
In the Stanley Cup Final the Senators defeated the Jets 4-1...
In 2013-14 the Winnipeg Jets defeated the Buffalo Sabres 4-0 to win the Cup

Here's some stats from season eight...

Regular Season 2013-14


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]54[/td][td]Bryan Trottier[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]53[/td][td]Bengt-Ake Gustafsson[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]51[/td][td]Darcy Rota[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]51[/td][td]Bobby Smith[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]131[/td][td]Bryan Trottier[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]121[/td][td]Brian Propp[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]121[/td][td]Mike Rogers[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]120[/td][td]Bengt-Ake Gustafsson[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]120[/td][td]Denis Maruk[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr][/table]Wayne Gretzky played only 54 games (injury?), scoring 22 times and assisting on 48 others for 70 points; his Houston Aeros missed the playoffs
Gretzky's 9.20 AvR was second only to the 9.26 of RW Mike Gartner (Oilers)



Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]26[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]22[/td][td]Doug Wilson[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]17[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Paul Coffey[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]16[/td][td]Bobby Orr[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]86[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]62[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]58[/td][td]Kevin Brown[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Viacheslav Fetisov[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Guy Lapointe[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr][/table]

Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2.40[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.45[/td][td]Richard Brodeur[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.54[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.58[/td][td]Don Edwards[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.59[/td][td]Gilles Gilbert[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.70[/td][td]Denis Herron[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Gilles Meloche[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]45[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]43[/td][td]Richard Brodeur[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]43[/td][td]Glen Hanlon[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Torrie Robertson[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr][/table]




Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]115[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]110[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]104[/td][td]Quebec Nordiques[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]104[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]102[/td][td]Buffalo Sabres[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]101[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]68[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]68[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]72[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]72[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]73[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]345[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]321[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]312[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]305[/td][td]Buffalo Sabres[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]304[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]224[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]225[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]241[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]242[/td][td]Birmingham Bulls[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]247[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]339[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]336[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]332[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]320[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]308[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]229[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]242[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]249[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]254[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]258[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Brian Bellows[/td][td]Niagara Falls Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Ron Sutter[/td][td]Brandon Wheat Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Ray Ferraro[/td][td]Flin Flon Bombers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Pat Verbeek[/td][td]Hamilton Fincups[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Rich Sutter[/td][td]Seattle Breakers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]Scott Stevens[/td][td]Toronto Marlboros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]Ron Hextall[/td][td]Regina Pats[/td][/tr][/table]

2014 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]G[/td][td]Ron Hextall[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Brian Bellows[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Rich Sutter[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Ron Sutter[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Ray Ferraro[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]RW[/td][td]Pat Verbeek[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Blaine Adams[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]LW[/td][td]Dave Reid[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]RD/RW[/td][td]Alex Stone[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Scott Stevens[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr][/table]RW/LW Blaine Adams and RD/RW Alex Stone are regens
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The Montreal Canadiens defeated the Los Angeles Kings in 5 games in the 2007 Stanley Cup Final

Just finished simming to the end of season two…the Houston Aeros defeated St. Louis in 7 games to win the Stanley Cup. To get to the Final Houston defeated the Flyers 4-0, the Bruins 4-1 and Montreal 4-1 (St. Louis defeated Los Angeles in 7 in their Semi)

Season three is now done...Montreal defeated Vancouver 4-0 in the 2009 Stanley Cup Final

In 2009-10 Montral won their third Cup in four years, beating LA 4-0 (to get to the Final the Habs beat Buffalo 4-1, Boston 4-0 and Toronto 4-0)

In 2010-11 it's another Cup for Montral, as they defeated the California Seals in the Final 4-1

In 2011-12 the Ottawa Senators win the Cup! After beating Buffalo 4-3, Quebec 4-1 and Pittsburgh 4-0, the Senators beat the Winnipeg Jets 4-3 in the Final...

In 2012-2013 Ottawa and Winnipeg met in the Final
Winnipeg defeated Cleveland 4-2, San Diego 4-3, and then Minnesota 4-0 to reach the Final
Ottawa defeated Atlanta 4-1, Philadelphia 4-3, and then the Islanders 4-3 to reach the Final
In the Stanley Cup Final the Senators defeated the Jets 4-1...

In 2013-14 the Winnipeg Jets defeated the Buffalo Sabres 4-0 to win the Cup
In 2014-15 the New England Whalers won the Stanley Cup, defeating the Los Angeles Kings 4-1

Here's some stats from season nine...


Regular Season 2014-15


Forwards
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]66[/td][td]Mike Gartner[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]57[/td][td]Charlie Simmer[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]56[/td][td]Wayne Gretzky[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]55[/td][td]Bernie Federko[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]143[/td][td]Bob Bourne[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]135[/td][td]Mike Gartner[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]132[/td][td]Wayne Gretzky[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]128[/td][td]Guy Lafleur[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]127[/td][td]Denis Maruk[/td][td]California Seals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]127[/td][td]Bobby Smith[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr][/table]

Defensemen
[table][tr][th]Goals[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]27[/td][td]Serge Savard[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]20[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]20[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]18[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]18[/td][td]Ian Turnbull[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]18[/td][td]Mike O'Connell[/td][td]San Diego Mariners[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Points[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]81[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]70[/td][td]Larry Robinson[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]65[/td][td]Ray Bourque[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]65[/td][td]John Van Boxmeer[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]62[/td][td]Serge Savard[/td][td]Los Angeles Kings[/td][/tr][/table]

Goal
[table][tr][th]GAA[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]2.49[/td][td]Billy Smith[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.51[/td][td]Bernie Parent[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.59[/td][td]Dan Bouchard[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.61[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.64[/td][td]Ken Dryden[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Wins[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Jim Rutherford[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]48[/td][td]Billy Smith[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]44[/td][td]Rogie Vachon[/td][td]Winnipeg Jets[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]43[/td][td]Gary Edwards[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]42[/td][td]Dan Bouchard[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]41[/td][td]Mike Liut[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr][/table]

Trophy Winners
[table][tr][th]Trophy[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Calder[/td][td]Brian Mullen[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Hart[/td][td]Wayne Gretzky[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Selke[/td][td]Clark Gillies[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Norris[/td][td]Denis Potvin[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Vezina[/td][td]Dan Bouchard[/td][td]Atlanta Flames[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Conn Smythe[/td][td]Bobby Smith[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr][/table]




Team Results
[table][tr][th]Most Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]114[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]107[/td][td]New England Whalers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]105[/td][td]Houston Aeros[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]102[/td][td]Minnesota North Stars[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]102[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]100[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least Points[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]62[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]67[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]72[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]73[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]331[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]329[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]326[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]323[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]323[/td][td]Montreal Canadiens[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GF[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]223[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]229[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]239[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]240[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]243[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Most GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]357[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]352[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]340[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]330[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]330[/td][td]Toronto Maple Leafs[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]Least GA[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]215[/td][td]New York Islanders[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]229[/td][td]Philadelphia Flyers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]231[/td][td]Seattle Totems[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]232[/td][td]Detroit Red Wings[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]235[/td][td]Calgary Cowboys[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][th]October ISS Ranking[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]Gord Kluzak[/td][td]Moose Jaw Warriors[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]Steve Yzerman[/td][td]Flin Flon Bombers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]Patrick Roy[/td][td]P.E.I. Rocket[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]Cole Moller[/td][td]Windsor Spitfires[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]Alan Kerr[/td][td]Portland Winter Hawks[/td][/tr][/table] Cole Moller is a regen



2015 Draft
[table][tr][th]Overall[/th][th]Position[/th][th]Player[/th][th]Team[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]1[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Steve Yzerman[/td][td]Colorado Rockies[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2[/td][td]G[/td][td]Patrick Roy[/td][td]Pittsburgh Penguins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3[/td][td]LD/RD[/td][td]Gord Kluzak[/td][td]Ottawa Senators™[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4[/td][td]RW/LW[/td][td]Patrice McCrimmon[/td][td]Edmonton Oilers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Cole Moller[/td][td]Chicago Blackhawks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]6[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Sacha Farnier[/td][td]Vancouver Canucks[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Vezia Stein[/td][td]Washington Capitals[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]8[/td][td]G[/td][td]Joey Cote[/td][td]Boston Bruins[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]9[/td][td]LW/RW[/td][td]Bob Probert[/td][td]New York Rangers[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]10[/td][td]C/LW[/td][td]Brett Hull[/td][td]Phoenix Roadrunners[/td][/tr][/table]RW/LW Patrice McCrimmon, C/LW Cole Moller, LW/RW Sacha Farnier, C/LW Vezia Stein and G Joey Cote are all regens (FYI at this point there are only 32 historical players that start out in the Atom League [in 2006] along with Steve Yzerman and Patrick Roy)



ALSO Mario Lemieux didn't make it from minor hockey to Major Junior/Pro!
Not really sure why…..in looking at my test saves it looks like he last played in PeeWee in 2008-09, where he had 155 points in 45 games!
He was still around in June 2011 (but hadn't played since 2008-09)...by June 2012 he no longer showed up in a Player Search
It looks like Lemieux's 2009 teammates Curtis Joseph, Ken Daneyko, Gary Leeman and Stephane Richer all moved on to Major Junior/Pro just fine, BUT like Lemieux teammates Adam Graves and Ray Sheppard did not move on to Major Junior/Pro either…
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