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I managed to find an online retailer that had NHL in stock and it arrived last Wednesday. Generally speaking, I think the game is a lot of fun and it's certainly much improved since the version I last owned (NHL 09). I like how the AI's offence and defence are now much more active and seem a less robotic/scripted. I'm certainly finding I have less time on the puck in the offensive zone. I like the new skating engine and how the good players stand out much more than before. And there does seem to be variation in playing styles between the teams.

The visuals are on the whole very nice. I like the Winter Classic mode as it feels very authentic. I like the authentic opening to the Sharks games with the shark on the ice. It's just a shame it seems like the openings to the other rinks are generic. I find the cut-scenes very repetitive. Yes, they're more dynamic now, but there isn't much of a range of them. Most of the player faces are completely wrong. I recently read on the Operation Sports forum that the faces haven't been updated by EA for several years. This is so lazy. It'd be nice if the players looked a little more authentic.

The commentary is infuriating. I can't stand Bill Clement and Gary Thorne. I have heard the same lines of commentary for what feels like ten years now. I wish they'd bring in new commentators with some fresh lines. I hate hearing their over-the-top views on the game - every game is a thrilling game in their eyes.

I wish they'd sort out board play. It's just the same "pinned to the boards and kick it with the skate" animation each time. It seems easier to body-check in open ice than against the boards. This doesn't seem quite right.

I think I'm still getting used to the game and am finding it a bit of a learning curve. Having said that, I do think the AI has too much of a boost with the default slider settings. My pass percentage is usually around 55-65% whereas the AI will have something like 70-80%. I'm not sure whether mine is low or the AI's is high. The AI seems to have a much better shot than me. Again, perhaps it is because I'm still a novice, but in my most extreme example I lost 6-1 as the Jets vs the Lightning. The Lightning only had 18 shots - so 33% of their shots found the back of the net. I had 19 shots and only scored once. Faceoffs is another area of difficulty for me. I was winning something like 1 in 30 faceoffs. Having decreased the faceoffs slider by one click, I'm now winning roughly 50% of faceoffs.

Penalties are rarely being called (this is a common criticism). When they are called, it is always against me for tripping (because I'll have badly timed my pokecheck). It seems the AI can keep hold of the puck much better than I and that it can take the puck off me without actually performing any move/animation. Yet if the AI skates near me, I can't take the puck off him unless I put in a well-timed pokecheck.

Goalies are somewhat irritating. They'll pull off several stellar saves and will then totally fail to stop the easiest of shots.

Maybe all of the above is because I'm very rusty at this game. Maybe it's me that needs to get better rather than the AI that has been too greatly boosted (I play on Pro). :dunno: All things said, this is an enjoyable game - but there are a lot of niggles.

Btw, in the Wings v Lightning game, one of the Lightning's goals was reviewed because the referee thought it had been hit into the goal by the skater's glove. The video replay showed quite clearly that the puck was nowhere near the glove - it was hit by the blade of the stick (about three or four feet away from the glove). However, what the game didn't pick up was that the stick was well above the crossbar (maybe 6 - 12 inches above). It seems the game doesn't pick up high-sticking. I'll upload the replay and screenshot once I get my new router (the wired LAN ports have died).

Here's a funny video of the Hercules Check:


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P.s. something else I found highly disappointing is the historic NHL Moments Live. If you take a look at the 2011/12 category, there are a couple of Moments from the 80s and 90s. For example, you can recreate the time Gretzky broke a points scoring record in 1981 when he played for the Oilers. I thought this would be absolutely brilliant because we'd be able to play with the 1981 Oliers. However, that's not what they have done. EA has simply put Gretzky on the 2011/12 Oiler rosters. ](*,) This is so lazy! Either have the authentic 1981 rosters or just don't bother with historic Moments!! How can we recreate that Moment if Gretzky is playing with the likes of Taylor Hall, etc?!!!

Does anybody know what their logic is with regards to the rosters? It seems, for example, that Prust is no longer with the Rangers (presumably he is with the Habs, but I haven't checked) but Nash is still with Columbus. :-? I was expecting that EA would freeze the rosters during the lock-out, but I don't see why the Nash trade hasn't been included.
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archibalduk wrote:Does anybody know what their logic is with regards to the rosters? It seems, for example, that Prust is no longer with the Rangers (presumably he is with the Habs, but I haven't checked) but Nash is still with Columbus. :-? I was expecting that EA would freeze the rosters during the lock-out, but I don't see why the Nash trade hasn't been included.
My understanding is the EA only half-heartedly attempts to update the rosters leading up to launch, and then really worries about them with the first roster update or two. That's been their policy the last few years at least.

I don't blame them. They say they'd rather worry about the actual gameplay and squashing bugs last-minute. And I guess I'd rather they do that.
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Primis wrote:I don't blame them. They say they'd rather worry about the actual gameplay and squashing bugs last-minute. And I guess I'd rather they do that.
That's fair enough! I'd agree with that too.
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archibalduk wrote:
Primis wrote:I don't blame them. They say they'd rather worry about the actual gameplay and squashing bugs last-minute. And I guess I'd rather they do that.
That's fair enough! I'd agree with that too.
I suppose...but there's only been 21 NHL trades since June 15th, so I would think the amount of time involved to make these changes would have been mere minutes
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archibalduk wrote:e. EA has simply put Gretzky on the 2011/12 Oiler rosters. ](*,) This is so lazy! Either have the authentic 1981 rosters or just don't bother with historic Moments!! How can we recreate that Moment if Gretzky is playing with the likes of Taylor Hall, etc?!!!
I guess it's all about license-problems, at least that's what I have heard.

The moments live - mode is copied from the 2k-series because in NBA 2k12 is the greatest - mode that is very similiar to NHL Moments Live, except you could play with real players who played there and not with 2011/2012 rosters.
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archibalduk wrote:Penalties are rarely being called (this is a common criticism). When they are called, it is always against me for tripping (because I'll have badly timed my pokecheck). It seems the AI can keep hold of the puck much better than I and that it can take the puck off me without actually performing any move/animation. Yet if the AI skates near me, I can't take the puck off him unless I put in a well-timed pokecheck.
Penalties definitely need to be turned way up. I'm currently playing exclusively with my Be A Pro career in the OHL, and I'm not sure how CHL penalties differ from the NHL, but I'm seeing only about one or two per game. And that's with all penalty sliders maxed (the "master" slider and the CPU/Human sliders). Variety would be nice, too - of the few I see, it's mostly slashing and interference.
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The last I played was NHL 2011 and penalties were a pain! In Be A Pro I always had bad penalties and the same was for the opponent team and my teammate, it was boring some time! But I have a HUGE mental disorder while playing NHL. When I try to poke-check people, I poke-check like crazy and I always ended-up make them trip. :-D
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The v1.04 tuners (I think they came out yesterday or Friday) have apparently made some improvement in relation to penalties. I have all three penalty sliders maxed like you and, with the new tuners, things do seem to be a bit better. Still, with the sliders at maximum, there ought to be many more penalties. Perhaps the CPU isn't aggressive enough (perhaps upping the CPU aggression slider might help). I'm getting mostly tripping and interference calls on mine. In one game, I did see the CPU get a double minor for high sticking.

Having looked through the OperationSports forum, the general consensus is that v1.04 has greatly improved the gameplay. I can't say I've noticed all that much difference except that there is a more realistic shot count on 6 minute period games. I have tried some custom sliders, but I think I prefer just using the default ones with a few tweaks here and there (e.g. slightly easier faceoffs, more CPU aggression, max penalties, reduced CPU ability to hold on to the puck when checked).

I'm really struggling to score any goals. In the 8 or 9 NHL games I've played (on Pro setting), I've lost all but one and have scored about 5 or 6. :oops: Maybe I need to increase the User shot accuracy slider a little...
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I just rented the game after finishing working and I'm 3 games into my Be A Pro Mode. I'm surprised how the new skating physics looks great on the screen. And into 3 games I've also noticed what you guys spoke of about penalties. Been warned by you, I already put CPU, teammates penalties up and it seems it wasn't enough. The away team got no penalty in 2 games and my team got 1 I think. So far in game three I've boosted all the slider to the max and I got 2 penalty and the other team got 2 too.
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Speaking of my luck. Patrik Stefan anyone? :-D

http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/137493368
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Hahahaha now that's awesome! Is this really one of your game or just someone else who posted that vid?
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That really happened to me today! I was obviously too confident to score and did the "Stefan's" and then it was just too easy 2vs0 against poor Jim Reimer. And of course there were only 1.3 secs left, haha. I had to take a little break from NHL 13 after that match because I couldn't stop laughing. That surely made my day :-D
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Ha! Nice shot :p

On a serious note, has anyone noticed a lack of empty net goals? Especially playing Be A Pro, I've noticed that the AI seems unable, or unwilling, to score on an empty net. They either shoot way wide, or simply don't bother shooting at all.

And speaking of empty nets, I'm hoping the AI gets patched to be more aggressive with pulling the goalie. As a goalie in Be A Pro, I start looking towards the bench with about 1:00 left, or maybe even 1:30 in some cases. However, the AI seems strictly coded to pull the goalie at only about 0:30, which doesn't leave much time at all for the offense to do anything.
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I've noticed that too and not only in NHL 13. Been playing NHL 11 for a while, empty net goals were rare. I was clearly in a good position to receive a pass and go score but my teammate were doing circles in our zone trying to get away from the CPU. :-D

How's it going playing as a goalie Stinson? Do you see alot of actions? When your team dominate a game you probably don't play that much.
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HeatPete wrote:Speaking of my luck. Patrik Stefan anyone? :-D

http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/137493368
Haha that is hilarious!!! :chuckle:
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philou21 wrote:How's it going playing as a goalie Stinson? Do you see alot of actions? When your team dominate a game you probably don't play that much.
I'm actually having a great time with it. In terms of action, I think it's actually pretty similar to real life - there's plenty of time when your team is down at the other end and you're just watching, hoping to see that goal light go off. But there's about an equal amount of time that the other team spends in your end, and you're on your toes trying to stay in position until your team can clear the puck.

Probably the most unexpectedly fun part about being a goalie is the amount of equipment customization. It's purely cosmetic, but it's pretty cool using your own custom pads and gloves, rather than generic built-in pads. Personally, I'm using a complete set of Vaughn 7900 pads and gloves. They're all brown, with black lines and lettering.
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Good to know! I remember trying to play as a goalie when it was new in the NHL series and the controls were horrible I didn't understood anything. :-D
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Just got throught my first overtime and is it normal in Be A Pro that the OT are 20 minutes long without shootout? :-?
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I believe the overtime situation should be set to the league default. It is, however, configurable in the settings. Perhaps you changed it accidentally at some point, or imported an NHL 12 profile with that setting?
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Never played NHL 12 and I can't find anywhere in the option the place to choose how to play the OT. :-k
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It should be under My NHL 13 > Settings > Rules > Tie Break.

Although, looking at it now, it doesn't really get into OT lengths, just the formats... so I'm not sure what would be causing you to get 20 minute OTs. But either way, it should default to "5 min (4 on 4) then Shootout"
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Gonna check this out, my rent as ended yesterday but I'll probably buy it today or tomorrow. Last time I checked I think it was the "regular" OT then shootout but in my Be A Pro didn't done it that way.
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Wonder why all the strange things happen to me. Take a look at poor Steve Mason here. http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/138141628

The goal was under review, I think because the puck hit my skate there.
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I finally bought the game today. It's my first brand new NHL since the 09, never skipped a year before that since I had money in my pockets. :-D I think I'm gonna do that more often now since NHL doesn't improve that much until 3-4 years, might save alot of bucks this way. Alot of people are saying NHL 13 is the same as last year but for me who haven't got a new version since 3 years I find the game awesome!
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