Fictional DB: The Black Karma Database
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- Animal31
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Fictional DB: The Black Karma Database
I WANT to call it the nAnimal database, but that wouldnt work all things considered. So im going with Black Karma, which is a team in the Database in the AHL
I plan on replacing everything in the game with something of my own creation, and yours.
My goal is to make it awesome enough to be download worthy, hell, maybe even challenge worthy. Im working on it as a kind of send off to east side hockey manager before FHM comes out and everyone makes databases in that. I like EHM cause I dont need to update anything when I want to play it 8 months later, I can just load up any old database, even this one, and play it for another 9, and never have to worry about getting the newest version. I think EHM will remain top dog, at least with me, so I figure something new would be awesome, but with the same engine. Thats what this is
Every team
all billion of them
new leagues
new affiliate systems
new players
I will of course be looking for suggestions, such as players, teams, or leagues, or anything; as like I said, Im changing everything
Im going to be starting with the NHL, AHL and CHL, then ill do the top Euro leagues, then the lower NA leagues, then finish it off
This game will be "realistic" but ill be going to town on it, hell, I even want Japan to have a league so I can pit the Highten View Terrece Digitals against the Kanto Pockets
Of course. Im just one guy. I can only do so much "new". I will need your help to put this over the edge of "fun" and "omg this is awesome", so I will always be listening to suggestions. And I will be representing TBL and other hockey forums I go to someway. Fan art, custom logos, stuff like that. Players, team names, etc
Ill post an update soon, because like all my other great projects, I decided to start during school
I plan on replacing everything in the game with something of my own creation, and yours.
My goal is to make it awesome enough to be download worthy, hell, maybe even challenge worthy. Im working on it as a kind of send off to east side hockey manager before FHM comes out and everyone makes databases in that. I like EHM cause I dont need to update anything when I want to play it 8 months later, I can just load up any old database, even this one, and play it for another 9, and never have to worry about getting the newest version. I think EHM will remain top dog, at least with me, so I figure something new would be awesome, but with the same engine. Thats what this is
Every team
all billion of them
new leagues
new affiliate systems
new players
I will of course be looking for suggestions, such as players, teams, or leagues, or anything; as like I said, Im changing everything
Im going to be starting with the NHL, AHL and CHL, then ill do the top Euro leagues, then the lower NA leagues, then finish it off
This game will be "realistic" but ill be going to town on it, hell, I even want Japan to have a league so I can pit the Highten View Terrece Digitals against the Kanto Pockets
Of course. Im just one guy. I can only do so much "new". I will need your help to put this over the edge of "fun" and "omg this is awesome", so I will always be listening to suggestions. And I will be representing TBL and other hockey forums I go to someway. Fan art, custom logos, stuff like that. Players, team names, etc
Ill post an update soon, because like all my other great projects, I decided to start during school
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Re: the Black Karma db
If you have difficulty coming up with team names, I can send you a beta version of my Team Name Generator. It'll shortly be able to generate names for the US, Canada, UK and Czech Rep.
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P.s. bear in mind that certain teams have to be present in game (such as many/all of the NHL teams). So if you rename the Anaheim Ducks, you'll also have to create a new defunct team called the Anaheim Ducks (with the TM symbol included). You'll need to do a lot of regular testing of starting a new game in EHM in order to check that you don't inadvertently miss a required team, etc. EHM will crash if certain teams aren't present in the DB.
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Re: the Black Karma db
I want a team called Mgsportsallstars ,who is the St. Louis Blues, like all teams, and is based on the moon where they take the subway to the games
Or just call them the Loving Batdads...


Or just call them the Loving Batdads...
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Re: the Black Karma db
ROFLMAOManimal wrote: Or just call them the Loving Batdads...




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Re: the Black Karma db
Manimal wrote:I want a team called Mgsportsallstars ,who is the St. Louis Blues, like all teams, and is based on the moon where they take the subway to the games
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Or just call them the Loving Batdads...
Awesomesauce. Manimal's Hannibals. Manimal Rangers. Archi's Betties. Cee Bee older than batdad farts. Nino Els. Bruins Bostons. Philou ongos. Joe Helmer Brians. Allesandro Castro Neves. Getzlaff15 Sucks. Stinson Gameraddictions, Tasku Wild Turkeys. COrinthians Leviticus. McQuaks doublecheeseburgers.
So have to get a league with these team names.
But I prefer...St Louis Blues. So playing a game in FHM with all teams named the Blues.
- nino33
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Re: the Black Karma db
So true! So so true!archibalduk wrote:You'll need to do a lot of regular testing of starting a new game in EHM in order to check that you don't inadvertently miss a required team, etc.
- Animal31
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Re: the Black Karma db
So my first update, as I was working on it last night kinda, is a list of the general area all my NHL and AHL teams are going to go, and who's affiliated with who
I tried to give every province at least one team, and I followed a general scheme with all of the divisions, AHL included, by going by region. 4 of the divisions are primarily canadian, and 2 are all american. I tired to work by population, and by keeping things generally even
My totals for Canadian teams are
NHL: 16
AHL: 7
American are
NHL: 14
AHL: 20
as for regions
BC: 5
Alberta: 3
Sask: 1
Manitoba: 1
Ontario: 5
Quebec: 3
Prince Edward Island/New Brunswick: 1
Nova Scotia: 1
Newfoundland: 1
Yukon: 1
North West Territories: 1
Nunvaut: 1
Washington State: 2
Oregon: 1
California: 3
Nevada: 1
Utah: 1
Colorado: 2
Wyoming: 1
Dakota: 1
Kansas: 1
Texas: 3
Minnesota: 1
Michigan: 1
Kentucky: 1
Missouri: 1
Florida: 2
New Hampshire: 1
New York/Jersey/Boston area: 6
I tried to give every province at least one team, and I followed a general scheme with all of the divisions, AHL included, by going by region. 4 of the divisions are primarily canadian, and 2 are all american. I tired to work by population, and by keeping things generally even
My totals for Canadian teams are
NHL: 16
AHL: 7
American are
NHL: 14
AHL: 20
as for regions
BC: 5
Alberta: 3
Sask: 1
Manitoba: 1
Ontario: 5
Quebec: 3
Prince Edward Island/New Brunswick: 1
Nova Scotia: 1
Newfoundland: 1
Yukon: 1
North West Territories: 1
Nunvaut: 1
Washington State: 2
Oregon: 1
California: 3
Nevada: 1
Utah: 1
Colorado: 2
Wyoming: 1
Dakota: 1
Kansas: 1
Texas: 3
Minnesota: 1
Michigan: 1
Kentucky: 1
Missouri: 1
Florida: 2
New Hampshire: 1
New York/Jersey/Boston area: 6
- Animal31
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Re: the Black Karma db
Just going through and naming what teams I can now
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Re: the Black Karma db
Does anyone know how the Junior Preference field is passed on to regens?
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Re: the Black Karma db
Here is a visual representation of the North West Division in NHL 13
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Re: the Black Karma db
Bump in the road 0: Too many canadian teams
Option 1: Set Regina/Halifax, other, to United States. Kind of ruins authenticity
Option 2: Move Yukon to Alaska, move Hamilton to Chicago. Kind of works with population, but Canada sad face
Option 3: Force players to set Canada as Enhanced
Option 4: Wait for fix? Who knows if it will work, if at all
Option 1: Set Regina/Halifax, other, to United States. Kind of ruins authenticity
Option 2: Move Yukon to Alaska, move Hamilton to Chicago. Kind of works with population, but Canada sad face
Option 3: Force players to set Canada as Enhanced
Option 4: Wait for fix? Who knows if it will work, if at all
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Re: the Black Karma db
Option 4. obviously got it working
recently learned that there is no Relegation in the English leagues. Disapointing, was hoping to inccorperate the Swinden Town Swoodilypoopers of John Green game, so you could take them from top to bottom, like soccer
Edit
No problem with AHL teams, all were put in correctly
Im currently simming my 3 season with NHL and AHL enhanced, debating what to work on now
recently learned that there is no Relegation in the English leagues. Disapointing, was hoping to inccorperate the Swinden Town Swoodilypoopers of John Green game, so you could take them from top to bottom, like soccer
Edit
No problem with AHL teams, all were put in correctly
Im currently simming my 3 season with NHL and AHL enhanced, debating what to work on now
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Re: the Black Karma db
I managed to give every state and province a team in the 5 north america leagues other than hawaii, but do have another 12 teams left in the UHL/CHL, so I might give Hawaii a UHL or CHL team, and otherwise give teams to markets that are currently underutilized like california
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Re: the Black Karma db
posting here for documentation, in case anyone else decides to do what I do, so I can helpAnimal31 wrote:So as it turns out, Junior Preference is apparently not generated for regens
im in 2022 of a 60 player database, all of them with definded preferences. (ignoring random spawns) Of all of the players in the 2022 game, and the only players without "None" (according to the scout tool) are the players originally in the game at the start
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Re: the Black Karma db
Error with the ECHL, No players on their team, even with correct ECHL teams, assuming its because there isnt enough players
confirmed: Each ECHL must have at least 1 player (worst case ive found)
confirmed: Each ECHL must have at least 1 player (worst case ive found)
Last edited by Animal31 on Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
- nino33
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Re: the Black Karma db
FYI - the 1974 db has worked OK (for PC users) with 0 ECHL players/staff at start-up (a couple Mac users reported crashes if they clicked on ECHL related links)Animal31 wrote:Error with the ECHL, No players on their team, even with correct ECHL teams, assuming its because there isnt enough players
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Re: the Black Karma db
Thats strange
I guess mine just must be special case because of the work im doing, or something
either way, it works now so far, with just NHL and ECHL selected
I guess mine just must be special case because of the work im doing, or something
either way, it works now so far, with just NHL and ECHL selected
- nino33
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Re: the Black Karma db
Whenever I test I always do so with all Leagues set to Enhanced
- Animal31
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Re: the Black Karma db
I try to test all the scenarios I can, I wouldnt have discovered the NHL canadian team problem, and that would have hurt the players that play only NHL, as it worked with NHL and Canada selected. This did too, so yeah. I mean this wouldnt happen if the database had players in it, so its just me right now :B you're fine
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Re: the Black Karma db
All north american playable leagues are set up, other than the secondary affiliations. I just need to do that and add players and its playable
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Re: the Black Karma db
This project sounds cool!
Later on, you'll need team logos/colours. 


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Re: the Black Karma db
Looks great!Animal31 wrote:This is as close as I have to logos right now

PS: I'm gonna try to paint a logo for you in photoshop. I'm just testing... You don't have to use it!

EDIT: Testing a logo right now. Doing a team called "Knight". With a shield and a medieval K letter on it.

After 30 mintues... Looks like this (virst version) Any suggestion on colour on the shield?

Let's say this is a NHL team, I can do a AHL team for them too with same logo just a different letter (that just takes couple of seconds)
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Well all my Team names are already set, as seen in my tumblr post, so I suggest taking a look at them and seeing what you can do. If you want to lay down some suggestions for Canadian Juniors you can, I can throw the Knights in there somewhere
Ill post the ECHL and U/CHL teams I have too if you wanna take a crack at some of their logos since I didnt do them in NHL 13. (Parent teams in brackets, * donates matching design scheme IE same logo/colours, & means similar design)
ECHL (no affiliates)
Seattle Storm
Salem Shields
San Fransico Falcons
Aurora Atmosphere
Souix Falls Silver
St Paul Saints
Chicago Hurricanes
Detroit Motor
St Louis Elite
Clevland commandos
Alabama Bulls
Atlanta Artillery
Miami Gators
Virginia Memorials
Durham Dynamos
Pittsburgh Rivermen
Phillidelpia Pharaohs
Washington Mavericks
Jersey City Skyline
Burlington Blazers
Rhode Island Warriors
Manhatten Monsters
Up State Americans
New York Titans
Hartford Fins
U/CHL
Victoria Dolphins (Victoria&, Burnaby)
Hawaii Fallen (Huntington Beach*, Vegas*)
Pasadena Black Holes (Sacramento, Burbank)
LA Stars (Seattle, Hamilton, Dakota)
San Deigo Tigers (Arizona, Quebec, Lethbridge*)
Wyoming Bison (St. Johns, Prince George)
Nampa Defence (Colorado&, Denver&)
UT (Utah) Rooster teeth (Austin, Denver)
Carson City Spectres (Jersey*, Lawrence)
South Dakota Nerdfighters(Indianapolis*, Montana*)
Topeka Tornado (Halifax, Fredericton/Nova Scotia)
Iowa Spartans (Detroit&, Kansas City*)
Lincoln Glory (Boston*, Manchester)
OKC Panhandles (Tennesse, Springdale, Texas)
Little Rock Assault (Yukon, Charlotte, Louisville)
Batan Rouge Empire (Edmonton*, New Mexico*)
Jackson Highlanders (WInnipeg*, Tampa*)
Rockford Blaze (Calgary&, Chicago[AHL]*)
Milwuake Griffins (Okanagan, Pennsylvania)
Columbia Gaters (Buffalo, Florida)
Delaware Reign (Springdale, Ottawa, Washington[AHL])
Charston Checkers (Montreal, Regina, Montreal[AHL])
Bridgeport Sentinals (Regina, Hamilton, Brooklyn*)
Iqualuit Northmen (Yellowknife, Alaska*)
PEI Orca (Vancouver, Bellingham*)
Portland Ducks (Seattle, Hamilton, Oregon*)
Concord Nationals (Toronto*, Ontario*)
Ill post the ECHL and U/CHL teams I have too if you wanna take a crack at some of their logos since I didnt do them in NHL 13. (Parent teams in brackets, * donates matching design scheme IE same logo/colours, & means similar design)
ECHL (no affiliates)
Seattle Storm
Salem Shields
San Fransico Falcons
Aurora Atmosphere
Souix Falls Silver
St Paul Saints
Chicago Hurricanes
Detroit Motor
St Louis Elite
Clevland commandos
Alabama Bulls
Atlanta Artillery
Miami Gators
Virginia Memorials
Durham Dynamos
Pittsburgh Rivermen
Phillidelpia Pharaohs
Washington Mavericks
Jersey City Skyline
Burlington Blazers
Rhode Island Warriors
Manhatten Monsters
Up State Americans
New York Titans
Hartford Fins
U/CHL
Victoria Dolphins (Victoria&, Burnaby)
Hawaii Fallen (Huntington Beach*, Vegas*)
Pasadena Black Holes (Sacramento, Burbank)
LA Stars (Seattle, Hamilton, Dakota)
San Deigo Tigers (Arizona, Quebec, Lethbridge*)
Wyoming Bison (St. Johns, Prince George)
Nampa Defence (Colorado&, Denver&)
UT (Utah) Rooster teeth (Austin, Denver)
Carson City Spectres (Jersey*, Lawrence)
South Dakota Nerdfighters(Indianapolis*, Montana*)
Topeka Tornado (Halifax, Fredericton/Nova Scotia)
Iowa Spartans (Detroit&, Kansas City*)
Lincoln Glory (Boston*, Manchester)
OKC Panhandles (Tennesse, Springdale, Texas)
Little Rock Assault (Yukon, Charlotte, Louisville)
Batan Rouge Empire (Edmonton*, New Mexico*)
Jackson Highlanders (WInnipeg*, Tampa*)
Rockford Blaze (Calgary&, Chicago[AHL]*)
Milwuake Griffins (Okanagan, Pennsylvania)
Columbia Gaters (Buffalo, Florida)
Delaware Reign (Springdale, Ottawa, Washington[AHL])
Charston Checkers (Montreal, Regina, Montreal[AHL])
Bridgeport Sentinals (Regina, Hamilton, Brooklyn*)
Iqualuit Northmen (Yellowknife, Alaska*)
PEI Orca (Vancouver, Bellingham*)
Portland Ducks (Seattle, Hamilton, Oregon*)
Concord Nationals (Toronto*, Ontario*)